Your favourite PUZZLE game

10 April 2002, 11:20

(while were at it with all this 'what's your favourite..' stuff..)

WHAT's YOUR FAVOURITE PUZZLE GAME?

..or don't you guys play these very *intellectual* games?

mine is 'Eggerland Mystery' on the MSX by Hall Laboratories.
I'm sorry can't bring up a screenshot right now, but I'll do a short decription on this game: You play this little red ball-like character who has to travel through many mazes to rescue his girlie (heard this one before allright). But in these mazes there were lot's of very well designed and original enemies and you really had to puzzle your way through it.

I guess this game was later released on the NES, being called Lolo's Adventures

Paul · 10 April 2002, 11:39

On the PC, I say kyodai
http://www.kyodai.com/

Twistin'Ghost · 10 April 2002, 11:50

I'm a Tetris man (I guess this counts as a puzzle game). It's easier for me to name the ones I hate than which Tetris game I like best. I'll have to think on which I like best though. Lemmings is pretty brill. And Bob's Bad Day is always fun to muck with (not my fav, though...I dunno if I even have a fav!)

RetroMan · 10 April 2002, 13:44

KINGS VALLEY II on my MSX2

10 April 2002, 14:32

oh yea! i forgot bout that one! great game too!

Drake1009 · 10 April 2002, 14:39

Kyodai looks very shanghai like. That was fun for a while.

On the PC my favorite puzzle game was, and probably still is if you go for nothing but puzzle, The incredible machine 2. Had a lot more stuff than TIM1, Sid and Al's incredible toons were just not inspired enough for the whole toon setting to work. Other than that if you could mix some action into it I like the 2 oddworld games for the PC. On the Amiga my favorite would be locomotion, trying to gain oversight of what's happening and finding a quick redirection.

Shatterhand · 11 April 2002, 05:06

Hmm, great thread.. after Shmups, Puzzles are my favourite genre..

My favourite one is The Castle and Castle Excellent for MSX (It seems like the MSX is the king of puzzle games, huh?

) .. In second comes.. Eggerland Mystery for MSX

Puyo Puyo for many differente plataforms (Including MSX, where the series was born ) is a great game too, it's in the same vein of columns/tetris , but much more fun, IMO

on Amiga side, I REALLY LOVE Gem'X (Brill game from Kaiko) ... The musics on this game are just fantastic, and the game seems easy in the beggining, but then it gets harder and harder, and in later levels, with the tight time limit, the game gets nearly impossible ..

X-It (Or Zonked .. whatever it was called) is an excellent puzzler for Amiga too ...

Chip's Challenge is pretty good too... although most ideas of it were already in Eggerland ..

Here some screenshots of The Castle

Shatterhand · 11 April 2002, 05:24

And here are some pics of Eggerland Mystery..

The best way to describe Eggerland Mystery is ... Epyx probably stole all good ideas of "Chip's Challenge" from Eggerland, and Eggerland is more charming and challenging.

I want to add that I love the Eggerland Mystery series.. there's a sequel for MSX, that's UTTERLY hard, great for who seeks a real challenge in the puzzle arena

And also there are 3 sequels for the NES called "Adventures of Lolo" . Actually, the 1st "Adventure of Lolo" have lots of stages taken from Eggerland 1 and 2. Lolo 2 and 3 have only new stages.

Drake1009 · 11 April 2002, 06:37

That Castle game looks a bit more platformy than puzzly.

jmmijo · 11 April 2002, 06:57

For me pretty much any Mahjong game will work

ptrchiappe · 11 April 2002, 09:12

Tetris is at the first place, but Gem'X comes immediately after.

Tim Janssen · 11 April 2002, 11:38

Can Chips Challenge be regarded as a puzzle game? I really like this one with its water 'n' fire puzzles.
My favourite puzzle games on other formats are Zenji on C64 and Puzzle Bobble/Bust-a-move on PC.

11 April 2002, 12:23

I used to love the Dizzy games (even though the puzzles now seem a little simplistic).
Also, I have some fond memories Boulderdash.
On my megadrive I spent ages playing Dr. Robotniks Mean Bean Machine (sort of like columns - hey, if you're allowed tetris I'm allowed this).

There seems to be a mixing of genres when considering "puzzle" games though - Dizzy is like a platformer but has puzzles no more formulaic than some adventure games (which may also be considered puzzle games). I think puzzle games certainly have to be more than "find the key", but after that it's a pretty hard genre to define.

Pyromania · 11 April 2002, 12:41

Don't forget Bill's Tomato Game, that was a cool puzzle game with a twist.

Twistin'Ghost · 11 April 2002, 12:45

I agree, Bill's Tomato Game was very innovative and clever!

Fissuras · 11 April 2002, 13:20

@Drake1009: I can assure you. The Castle games are basically puzzle games. There is allmost no action, no jumping madness, no shooting, but carefully planning the steps one would take, the path, the bricks one is going to move. The game is all about that.

11 April 2002, 15:15

Its got to be Lemmings or Pushover!!

Both these games got really hard in later levels.

Good games though.

Djay · 11 April 2002, 15:50

Quote:

Its got to be Lemmings or Pushover!!

Yepp, Lemmings for me too!

Made my brain MELT, but i rocked in 2player mode!!!

Shatterhand · 12 April 2002, 05:14

Fissuras pretty much said all about Castle.. athoulgh it's a platform game, the main focus is in puzzles, as the action is pretty slow (And that's made intetionaly by the programmers , you aren't supposed to test your reflexes, but your brain... )

I think you can mix puzzles and action very nicely in games. I think Benefactor and Lost Vikings are 2 great examples of it (And 2 EXCELLENT games imo .. mainly Benefactor, that seems to be one of the most underrated game ever )

Akira and Retroman are other 2 eab members who know The Castle in MSX, and I think they love it too

Vivash , Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine is just the american version of Puyo Puyo for Mega-Drive

Also, Kirby's Avalanche on USA and Kirby's Ghost Trap in Europe on Snes is actually Puyo Puyo too ..

Here goes some screenshots of the original MSX version of Puyo Puyo

Shatterhand · 12 April 2002, 05:16

King's Valley 2 is another game that mix Puzzle with Action very nicely... the puzzles are devilish, and the action is very nice..

Here are some screenshots of this great MSX game.. (I am filling this thread with MSX pictures

)

10 April 2002, 11:20	#1
Arnoud Posts: n/a	Your favourite PUZZLE game (while were at it with all this 'what's your favourite..' stuff..) WHAT's YOUR FAVOURITE PUZZLE GAME? ..or don't you guys play these very intellectual games? mine is 'Eggerland Mystery' on the MSX by Hall Laboratories. I'm sorry can't bring up a screenshot right now, but I'll do a short decription on this game: You play this little red ball-like character who has to travel through many mazes to rescue his girlie (heard this one before allright). But in these mazes there were lot's of very well designed and original enemies and you really had to puzzle your way through it. I guess this game was later released on the NES, being called Lolo's Adventures

11 April 2002, 05:06	#7
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Hmm, great thread.. after Shmups, Puzzles are my favourite genre.. My favourite one is The Castle and Castle Excellent for MSX (It seems like the MSX is the king of puzzle games, huh? ) .. In second comes.. Eggerland Mystery for MSX Puyo Puyo for many differente plataforms (Including MSX, where the series was born ) is a great game too, it's in the same vein of columns/tetris , but much more fun, IMO on Amiga side, I REALLY LOVE Gem'X (Brill game from Kaiko) ... The musics on this game are just fantastic, and the game seems easy in the beggining, but then it gets harder and harder, and in later levels, with the tight time limit, the game gets nearly impossible .. X-It (Or Zonked .. whatever it was called) is an excellent puzzler for Amiga too ... Chip's Challenge is pretty good too... although most ideas of it were already in Eggerland .. Here some screenshots of The Castle Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Shatterhand; 11 April 2002 at 05:29.

11 April 2002, 05:24	#8
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	And here are some pics of Eggerland Mystery.. The best way to describe Eggerland Mystery is ... Epyx probably stole all good ideas of "Chip's Challenge" from Eggerland, and Eggerland is more charming and challenging. I want to add that I love the Eggerland Mystery series.. there's a sequel for MSX, that's UTTERLY hard, great for who seeks a real challenge in the puzzle arena And also there are 3 sequels for the NES called "Adventures of Lolo" . Actually, the 1st "Adventure of Lolo" have lots of stages taken from Eggerland 1 and 2. Lolo 2 and 3 have only new stages. Attached Thumbnails

11 April 2002, 11:38	#12
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Some puzzles Can Chips Challenge be regarded as a puzzle game? I really like this one with its water 'n' fire puzzles. My favourite puzzle games on other formats are Zenji on C64 and Puzzle Bobble/Bust-a-move on PC.

11 April 2002, 12:41	#14
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	Bill's Tomato Game Don't forget Bill's Tomato Game, that was a cool puzzle game with a twist.

10 April 2002, 11:39	#2
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	On the PC, I say kyodai http://www.kyodai.com/

10 April 2002, 11:50	#3
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	I'm a Tetris man (I guess this counts as a puzzle game). It's easier for me to name the ones I hate than which Tetris game I like best. I'll have to think on which I like best though. Lemmings is pretty brill. And Bob's Bad Day is always fun to muck with (not my fav, though...I dunno if I even have a fav!)

10 April 2002, 13:44	#4
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	KINGS VALLEY II on my MSX2

10 April 2002, 14:32	#5
Arnoud Posts: n/a	oh yea! i forgot bout that one! great game too!

10 April 2002, 14:39	#6
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Kyodai looks very shanghai like. That was fun for a while. On the PC my favorite puzzle game was, and probably still is if you go for nothing but puzzle, The incredible machine 2. Had a lot more stuff than TIM1, Sid and Al's incredible toons were just not inspired enough for the whole toon setting to work. Other than that if you could mix some action into it I like the 2 oddworld games for the PC. On the Amiga my favorite would be locomotion, trying to gain oversight of what's happening and finding a quick redirection.

11 April 2002, 06:37	#9
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	That Castle game looks a bit more platformy than puzzly.

11 April 2002, 06:57	#10
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	For me pretty much any Mahjong game will work

11 April 2002, 09:12	#11
ptrchiappe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cagliari / Italy Age: 61 Posts: 186	Tetris is at the first place, but Gem'X comes immediately after.

11 April 2002, 12:23	#13
vivash Posts: n/a	I used to love the Dizzy games (even though the puzzles now seem a little simplistic). Also, I have some fond memories Boulderdash. On my megadrive I spent ages playing Dr. Robotniks Mean Bean Machine (sort of like columns - hey, if you're allowed tetris I'm allowed this). There seems to be a mixing of genres when considering "puzzle" games though - Dizzy is like a platformer but has puzzles no more formulaic than some adventure games (which may also be considered puzzle games). I think puzzle games certainly have to be more than "find the key", but after that it's a pretty hard genre to define.

11 April 2002, 12:45	#15
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	I agree, Bill's Tomato Game was very innovative and clever!

11 April 2002, 13:20	#16
Fissuras Old Luny Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Brazil Age: 53 Posts: 574	@Drake1009: I can assure you. The Castle games are basically puzzle games. There is allmost no action, no jumping madness, no shooting, but carefully planning the steps one would take, the path, the bricks one is going to move. The game is all about that.

11 April 2002, 15:15	#17
Zeewolf Posts: n/a	Its got to be Lemmings or Pushover!! Both these games got really hard in later levels. Good games though.

12 April 2002, 05:14	#19
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Fissuras pretty much said all about Castle.. athoulgh it's a platform game, the main focus is in puzzles, as the action is pretty slow (And that's made intetionaly by the programmers , you aren't supposed to test your reflexes, but your brain... ) I think you can mix puzzles and action very nicely in games. I think Benefactor and Lost Vikings are 2 great examples of it (And 2 EXCELLENT games imo .. mainly Benefactor, that seems to be one of the most underrated game ever ) Akira and Retroman are other 2 eab members who know The Castle in MSX, and I think they love it too Vivash , Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine is just the american version of Puyo Puyo for Mega-Drive Also, Kirby's Avalanche on USA and Kirby's Ghost Trap in Europe on Snes is actually Puyo Puyo too .. Here goes some screenshots of the original MSX version of Puyo Puyo Attached Thumbnails

12 April 2002, 05:16	#20
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	King's Valley 2 is another game that mix Puzzle with Action very nicely... the puzzles are devilish, and the action is very nice.. Here are some screenshots of this great MSX game.. (I am filling this thread with MSX pictures ) Attached Thumbnails

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