Stupidest Game Trainer?

Old Fool · 25 August 2008, 12:27

I would like to know your comments about the most worthless trainer ever. I came across with this thread after testing that Shuffle Puck Cafe trainer from the Zone. By using that trainer it completely ruins the game! I don't see any point that game like this is even trained!

Don't get me wrong here now, I'm a great trainer lover but sometimes I wonder why some games never trained that certainly should have and then I found a trainer such a game as Shuffle Puck...

So throw me some absolutely stupid game trainers!

TCD · 25 August 2008, 12:48

I never got why nearly every trainer for a shoot 'em up has a 'permanent no-collision' option. That completely ruins the game and I wonder who plays it that way (if anybody

).

Muzkat · 25 August 2008, 12:51

I never liked trainers that resulted in an extra disk being added to the original set of disks to a game. I just found that this created alot of sloppy disk swapping, and sometimes games didn't work.

I realise this is not necessarily the fault of the person who implemented the trainer.

DamienD · 25 August 2008, 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzkat

I never liked trainers that resulted in an extra disk being added to the original set of disks to a game. I just found that this created alot of sloppy disk swapping, and sometimes games didn't work.

"Shadow of the Beast III" and "Barbarian II (Psygnosis)" spring to mind

TCD · 25 August 2008, 12:56

Or the 'wonderful' Wrath of the Demon trainer

Feels like they totally f**ked that one up...

spajdr · 25 August 2008, 12:58

Best trainers were ones, when you just CANT disable cheats even if you wanted

s2325 · 25 August 2008, 13:11

Turrican - infinite loop after last level if you have unlimited diamonds option switched on
Gods - infinite loop after first world

TCD · 25 August 2008, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

Turrican - infinite loop after last level if you have unlimited diamonds option switched on

I would say the unlimited diamonds option itself is already stupid

gklinger · 25 August 2008, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

Gods - infinite loop after first world

I've never played Gods with the trainer so I'm a little curious about this. Do you mean you can only play the first level and that's it?

s2325 · 25 August 2008, 14:02

first world, not first level

gklinger · 25 August 2008, 14:15

D'oh. Monday morning blues.

StingRay · 25 August 2008, 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Or the 'wonderful' Wrath of the Demon trainer

Feels like they totally f**ked that one up...

Disk swapping/extra disk has nothing to do with the trainer in this case. Game uses longtracks ($1900 bytes/track as opposed to $1600 bytes/track for a normal DOS track) thus the crack uses 1 disk more than the original. It also uses almost all of the available 512k RAM on a standard A500 which is the reason why there is no proper "Insert Disk" screen for the extra disk (no space for the patch).

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

"Shadow of the Beast III"

What's wrong with the Beast III trainer? Trained version: 2 disks, original version: 2 disks.

TCD · 25 August 2008, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Disk swapping/extra disk has nothing to do with the trainer in this case. Game uses longtracks ($1900 bytes/track as opposed to $1600 bytes/track for a normal DOS track) thus the crack uses 1 disk more than the original. It also uses almost all of the available 512k RAM on a standard A500 which is the reason why there is no proper "Insert Disk" screen for the extra disk (no space for the patch).

Okay, that's interesting. It feels a bit strange that you have to insert the fifth disk as a filler for the other disks, but now I get why it was done this way. Thanks for the info StingRay

Belgarath · 25 August 2008, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

What's wrong with the Beast III trainer? Trained version: 2 disks, original version: 2 disks.

Beast III cracked and original is 3 disks actually

(incl intro)

I think DD meant Beast II where the 3 disk crack was much more common to have.

StingRay · 25 August 2008, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgarath

Beast III cracked and original is 3 disks actually

(incl intro)

That's of course correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgarath

I think DD meant Beast II where the 3 disk crack was much more common to have.

Hmm, there was a 3 disk crack of SOTB2? I only had the Angels version back in the day which was on 2 disks.

Belgarath · 25 August 2008, 15:00

The trained angels versions are 3 disks.

TCD · 25 August 2008, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgarath

The trained angels versions are 3 disks.

According to Planetemu and my own poor memory

only the trained version has 3 disks.

StingRay · 25 August 2008, 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgarath

The trained angels versions are 3 disks.

I only had the "normal" (i.e. untrained version) which explains why I didn't know about the 3 disks trained version.

Hungry Horace · 25 August 2008, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

I never got why nearly every trainer for a shoot 'em up has a 'permanent no-collision' option. That completely ruins the game and I wonder who plays it that way (if anybody

).

which brings me to my own choice; permanent shield on Cybernoid II - the game may be hard, but why even play it with a trainer like that?

Anubis · 25 August 2008, 15:41

Leander's invincible trainer is stupid, as you can fall down in spike caves and not be able to get back into game.

25 August 2008, 12:27	#1
Old Fool Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampere Age: 40 Posts: 600	Stupidest Game Trainer? I would like to know your comments about the most worthless trainer ever. I came across with this thread after testing that Shuffle Puck Cafe trainer from the Zone. By using that trainer it completely ruins the game! I don't see any point that game like this is even trained! Don't get me wrong here now, I'm a great trainer lover but sometimes I wonder why some games never trained that certainly should have and then I found a trainer such a game as Shuffle Puck... So throw me some absolutely stupid game trainers!

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25 August 2008, 12:48	#2
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	I never got why nearly every trainer for a shoot 'em up has a 'permanent no-collision' option. That completely ruins the game and I wonder who plays it that way (if anybody ).

25 August 2008, 12:51	#3
Muzkat Into the Wonderful Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Earthrealm Age: 42 Posts: 1,426	I never liked trainers that resulted in an extra disk being added to the original set of disks to a game. I just found that this created alot of sloppy disk swapping, and sometimes games didn't work. I realise this is not necessarily the fault of the person who implemented the trainer.

25 August 2008, 12:56	#5
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	Or the 'wonderful' Wrath of the Demon trainer Feels like they totally f**ked that one up...

25 August 2008, 12:58	#6
spajdr Old fart Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ostrava/Czech Republic Age: 46 Posts: 315	Best trainers were ones, when you just CANT disable cheats even if you wanted

25 August 2008, 13:11	#7
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Turrican - infinite loop after last level if you have unlimited diamonds option switched on Gods - infinite loop after first world

25 August 2008, 14:02	#10
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	first world, not first level

25 August 2008, 14:15	#11
gklinger Vegetable Lasagna Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto, CANADA Age: 54 Posts: 711	D'oh. Monday morning blues.

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Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,513	The trained angels versions are 3 disks.

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