Crunch-Mania versions - Page 2

hit · 25 September 2008, 22:09

hmm. i'm sure i did the diff on the files correct. so its strange, there are only changes to the strings in that file. i would expect some code changes, but what i saw didnt show any, but the strings.
i kept both archives, so is my suggestion. mistakes happen, maybe someone may have a deeper look to the files?

andy2004 · 30 September 2008, 16:38

i use ultraedit in hex mode to scan the files and apart from those changes i didnt find anything different either in the code areas so 1.91 and 1.95 are identical apart from the 5

Skylight · 08 August 2009, 19:20

Since i'm back from USA and at home now and since i did continue to save all my tools and driver disks as DMS files, i did look for CrunchMania 1.91r (registered) too.
It's revision 6 from November 1994 and must be the last released version ever.

Maybe i can remove my (encrypted) personal data from CrM.
And if i disassemble CrM then i can fix the cache issues with 68060 CPU's and the wrong display of more than 9999999 bytes of Fast-RAM too before giving it to the public.

But i will never do this without the permission of Thomas Schwarz (aka Fresh Trash of Cerberus) if he is still alive.

Unfortunately "Thomas" and "Schwarz" are very common names.
So it's not easy to locate the right person.

If someone knows what happened to Thomas then feel free to tell me.

I got the last letter from him in 1995 (or early 1996) and we never had email contact.
We did discuss about additional features for CrM, but it seemed he had already lost his interest in CrM.
But i didn't search for these letters yet.

In late summer 1996 i finally got my ISDN connection at home, then i was able to use internet and email at home too.
But at this time i had no contact to Thomas anymore.
Before i had only internet access at the university of applied siences in Regensburg where a friend did study.
I got a cell phone since 1993, but at this time nobody did think about internet on cell phones.

And the costs were very high back then.

Two months after i got my ISDN (digital phone) connection i got a letter from the Deutsche Telekom telling me they can provide me now with the POTS (analog phone) connection i applied for in 1991!
How funny ...

I found many interesting Software at home (my parents house).
But it will still take years to check and archive more than 10000 disks.
Surprisingly i got no broken disks till now. The disks are still readable even after almost 20 years.
But i didn't check my 5.25" disks with the SEKA, Trash'm One, ASMone, OMA and other assembler stuff and the backup disks yet.
5.25" disks were much cheaper and i had not much money back then.

I even found my old briefcase with the most important software.
When i gave this briefcase to a friend at a parking place in Regensburg his girlfriend told him later this looked like drug trafficking.

btw .. i found the original CrunchMania 1.8t disk too .. this one is missing in the archive at http://old.exotica.org.uk/utils/crunchers.html
I can zone this without the permission of Thomas.

Ciao, Rick ...

andy2004 · 06 September 2009, 14:04

Crm should be packed with CRM, and with a binary / hex editor like azap you should be able to remove your name from the CRM file, replacing the same bytes with 00 in hex.
Personally due to the fact the creator has lost interest I dont think it would be a problem to upload the registered version edited of course.

Skylight · 06 September 2009, 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy2004

Crm should be packed with CRM, and with a binary / hex editor like azap you should be able to remove your name from the CRM file, replacing the same bytes with 00 in hex.
Personally due to the fact the creator has lost interest I dont think it would be a problem to upload the registered version edited of course.

Unfortunately u r wrong.

CrM is not packed at all and Thomas was not that stupid!

What do u think why he used personalized copies for the registered version instead of keyfiles etc.?
Each registered copy is unique and the personalized data is encrypted inside the executable.

U have to disassemble the executable to remove the personalized data and to remove the whole copy protection.
And i'm sure CrM does more than checksum checks to detect manipulations.

Only in the CrM.library i can read my name unencrypted but there must be more traceable data.
At least i remember something like this from my conversation with Thomas back then.

There is a reason why u can't find a cracked version of CrunchMania 1.91r (not 1.91t).

btw ... the code of 1.91t and 1.91r is significantly different and the CrM.library of 1.91r is much faster.

Ciao, Rick ...

andy2004 · 21 September 2009, 15:27

hows the cracking of crunchmania going skylight ?? just curious, have you for instance found all the copy protection inside it, is it harder than you thought
what version is the crm.library ?? the one i got i believe was from DMC and has andy gibson in the binary, if you look at it through a hex editor
mine says 4.30 when i run version crm.library and is 8808 bytes

Skylight · 24 September 2009, 11:35

Sorry ... i'm in Bangkok now .. and busy with the Thai police since something happened with my house here and tomorrow i must go to the hospital again.

But like i said i would like to have the permission of Thomas first before i consider to release my copy of CrM 1.91r to the public ...

But what's ur problem with CrM 1.91t anyway?
What features do u need now that CrM 1.91t can't provide and CrM 1.91r can?
Maybe i can help u.

btw ... the CrM.library of my personalized copy of 1.91r is V4.34 from 21.11.94 but compiled or assembled on 08.12.94 with the size of 8800 bytes and has my name in it of course.
The CrM.library of 1.91t is V4.30 from 09.02.94 with the size of 8838 bytes.

The CrM.library of 1.91r is using a different codebase anyway and is much faster.

Ciao, Rick ...

Carlos Ace · 12 January 2010, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skylight

Sorry ... i'm in Bangkok now .. and busy with the Thai police since something happened with my house here and tomorrow i must go to the hospital again.

But like i said i would like to have the permission of Thomas first before i consider to release my copy of CrM 1.91r to the public ... (...)
Ciao, Rick ...

Any news about your crack ???

Carlos Ace · 18 October 2012, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos Ace

Any news about your crack ???

Or about a registed version ?

BarryB · 06 January 2013, 02:47

Bump

I'd like a registered copy of CrunchMania, did anyone ever manage to track down Thomas?

Carlos Ace · 28 January 2014, 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skylight

Sorry ... i'm in Bangkok now .. and busy with the Thai police since something happened with my house here and tomorrow i must go to the hospital again.

But like i said i would like to have the permission of Thomas first before i consider to release my copy of CrM 1.91r to the public ...

But what's ur problem with CrM 1.91t anyway?
What features do u need now that CrM 1.91t can't provide and CrM 1.91r can?
Maybe i can help u.

btw ... the CrM.library of my personalized copy of 1.91r is V4.34 from 21.11.94 but compiled or assembled on 08.12.94 with the size of 8800 bytes and has my name in it of course.
The CrM.library of 1.91t is V4.30 from 09.02.94 with the size of 8838 bytes.

The CrM.library of 1.91r is using a different codebase anyway and is much faster.

Ciao, Rick ...

Any news ?

BippyM · 23 October 2017, 20:00

Guys check the zone. I have not tested this.. Feel free to tell me if it's garbage

Forget that.. After checking it's not the registered version

StingRay · 23 October 2017, 20:04

Not garbage but not the registered CrM version. And not the latest either.

BippyM · 23 October 2017, 20:05

Stingray, have you ever seen the registered 1.91?

StingRay · 23 October 2017, 20:07

Nope. Never. I just created a "personal version" *cough* for me, myself and I back in the early 90's and always used that.

BippyM · 23 October 2017, 20:07

Can this be shared? You know if you create a community version?

DamienD · 24 October 2017, 00:04

Yeah the "pop-up" is a bit annoying when using Crunch-Mania 1.91.

Skylight definitely has a registered version (as shown in this thread) and I'm pretty sure AMIGASYSTEM mentioned in another thread that he has also a legit / registered copy.

AMIGASYSTEM · 24 October 2017, 02:21

Mine Crunch-Mania is not registered, but i have the version 1.95 revision 8 (11-04-1995), CrM.library v4.36 (29-01-1995)

DamienD · 24 October 2017, 05:20

Ah ok. Do you think you could upload the archive to The Zone! please my friend?

On Aminet there is only CrMv191t .

StingRay · 24 October 2017, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by BippyM

Can this be shared? You know if you create a community version?

Well, I just disabled the annoying "Please register" popup and nowadays I think there are much better alternatives than CrM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Mine Crunch-Mania is not registered, but i have the version 1.95 revision 8 (11-04-1995), CrM.library v4.36 (29-01-1995)

That's a fake version!

08 August 2009, 19:20	#23
Skylight Crazy Collector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Munich/Bavaria + Saxony + Thailand Age: 53 Posts: 151	Since i'm back from USA and at home now and since i did continue to save all my tools and driver disks as DMS files, i did look for CrunchMania 1.91r (registered) too. It's revision 6 from November 1994 and must be the last released version ever. Maybe i can remove my (encrypted) personal data from CrM. And if i disassemble CrM then i can fix the cache issues with 68060 CPU's and the wrong display of more than 9999999 bytes of Fast-RAM too before giving it to the public. But i will never do this without the permission of Thomas Schwarz (aka Fresh Trash of Cerberus) if he is still alive. Unfortunately "Thomas" and "Schwarz" are very common names. So it's not easy to locate the right person. If someone knows what happened to Thomas then feel free to tell me. I got the last letter from him in 1995 (or early 1996) and we never had email contact. We did discuss about additional features for CrM, but it seemed he had already lost his interest in CrM. But i didn't search for these letters yet. In late summer 1996 i finally got my ISDN connection at home, then i was able to use internet and email at home too. But at this time i had no contact to Thomas anymore. Before i had only internet access at the university of applied siences in Regensburg where a friend did study. I got a cell phone since 1993, but at this time nobody did think about internet on cell phones. And the costs were very high back then. Two months after i got my ISDN (digital phone) connection i got a letter from the Deutsche Telekom telling me they can provide me now with the POTS (analog phone) connection i applied for in 1991! How funny ... I found many interesting Software at home (my parents house). But it will still take years to check and archive more than 10000 disks. Surprisingly i got no broken disks till now. The disks are still readable even after almost 20 years. But i didn't check my 5.25" disks with the SEKA, Trash'm One, ASMone, OMA and other assembler stuff and the backup disks yet. 5.25" disks were much cheaper and i had not much money back then. I even found my old briefcase with the most important software. When i gave this briefcase to a friend at a parking place in Regensburg his girlfriend told him later this looked like drug trafficking. btw .. i found the original CrunchMania 1.8t disk too .. this one is missing in the archive at http://old.exotica.org.uk/utils/crunchers.html I can zone this without the permission of Thomas. Ciao, Rick ... Attached Thumbnails

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25 September 2008, 22:09	#21
hit Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: planet earth Posts: 1,115	hmm. i'm sure i did the diff on the files correct. so its strange, there are only changes to the strings in that file. i would expect some code changes, but what i saw didnt show any, but the strings. i kept both archives, so is my suggestion. mistakes happen, maybe someone may have a deeper look to the files?

30 September 2008, 16:38	#22
andy2004 Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hampshire Age: 49 Posts: 271	i use ultraedit in hex mode to scan the files and apart from those changes i didnt find anything different either in the code areas so 1.91 and 1.95 are identical apart from the 5

06 September 2009, 14:04	#24
andy2004 Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hampshire Age: 49 Posts: 271	Crm should be packed with CRM, and with a binary / hex editor like azap you should be able to remove your name from the CRM file, replacing the same bytes with 00 in hex. Personally due to the fact the creator has lost interest I dont think it would be a problem to upload the registered version edited of course.

21 September 2009, 15:27	#26
andy2004 Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hampshire Age: 49 Posts: 271	hows the cracking of crunchmania going skylight ?? just curious, have you for instance found all the copy protection inside it, is it harder than you thought what version is the crm.library ?? the one i got i believe was from DMC and has andy gibson in the binary, if you look at it through a hex editor mine says 4.30 when i run version crm.library and is 8808 bytes

24 September 2009, 11:35	#27
Skylight Crazy Collector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Munich/Bavaria + Saxony + Thailand Age: 53 Posts: 151	Sorry ... i'm in Bangkok now .. and busy with the Thai police since something happened with my house here and tomorrow i must go to the hospital again. But like i said i would like to have the permission of Thomas first before i consider to release my copy of CrM 1.91r to the public ... But what's ur problem with CrM 1.91t anyway? What features do u need now that CrM 1.91t can't provide and CrM 1.91r can? Maybe i can help u. btw ... the CrM.library of my personalized copy of 1.91r is V4.34 from 21.11.94 but compiled or assembled on 08.12.94 with the size of 8800 bytes and has my name in it of course. The CrM.library of 1.91t is V4.30 from 09.02.94 with the size of 8838 bytes. The CrM.library of 1.91r is using a different codebase anyway and is much faster. Ciao, Rick ...

06 January 2013, 02:47	#30
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,704	Bump I'd like a registered copy of CrunchMania, did anyone ever manage to track down Thomas?

23 October 2017, 20:00	#32
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Guys check the zone. I have not tested this.. Feel free to tell me if it's garbage Forget that.. After checking it's not the registered version

23 October 2017, 20:04	#33
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Not garbage but not the registered CrM version. And not the latest either.

23 October 2017, 20:05	#34
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Stingray, have you ever seen the registered 1.91?

23 October 2017, 20:07	#35
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Nope. Never. I just created a "personal version" cough for me, myself and I back in the early 90's and always used that.

24 October 2017, 00:04	#37
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Yeah the "pop-up" is a bit annoying when using Crunch-Mania 1.91. Skylight definitely has a registered version (as shown in this thread) and I'm pretty sure AMIGASYSTEM mentioned in another thread that he has also a legit / registered copy.

24 October 2017, 02:21	#38
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Mine Crunch-Mania is not registered, but i have the version 1.95 revision 8 (11-04-1995), CrM.library v4.36 (29-01-1995)

24 October 2017, 05:20	#39
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Ah ok. Do you think you could upload the archive to The Zone! please my friend? On Aminet there is only CrMv191t .

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