WinUAE 3.0.0 beta series (was 2.8.2/2.9.0) - Page 23

Mad-Matt · 15 August 2014, 18:45

http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/AmiHeretic
http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/VAxen (didn't test, but this is one I have on my actual Amiga.)

fitzsteve · 15 August 2014, 19:13

Which is latest Beta? I can't find it in the thread. Maybe it's a good idea to edit the first post with the latest archive?

Edit - I think beta 10 from page 17?

Sandro · 15 August 2014, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

Which is latest Beta? I can't find it in the thread. Maybe it's a good idea to edit the first post with the latest archive?

Edit - I think beta 10 from page 17?

correct sr last one is beta 10 h ( headache)

Neil79 · 15 August 2014, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

Which is latest Beta? I can't find it in the thread. Maybe it's a good idea to edit the first post with the latest archive?

Edit - I think beta 10 from page 17?

Just so I'll repeat myself..

10 view my site or CIA for the latest

fitzsteve · 15 August 2014, 20:05

I don't wanna go to external sites

B10 stops on red screen with my previous working config - will have to delve into a little more although it sounds like we getting a new beta soon anyway

(Probably just a setting I'll read thru the last 3 pages again)

Retrofan · 15 August 2014, 21:08

I don't know you all, but I'm crazy waiting for the next beta...

FOL · 15 August 2014, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

I don't wanna go to external sites

B10 stops on red screen with my previous working config - will have to delve into a little more although it sounds like we getting a new beta soon anyway

(Probably just a setting I'll read thru the last 3 pages again)

You will have to wait for the next beta, it doesnt work with current beta 10.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

I don't know you all, but I'm crazy waiting for the next beta...

Me thinks you already have it,

.

Retrofan · 15 August 2014, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Me thinks you already have it,

.

If I had it I woudn't be opening this thread each half an hour...

Sandro · 15 August 2014, 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/AmiHeretic

http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/VAxen (didn't test, but this is one I have on my actual Amiga.)

the 1st one not works here: winuae crash window appears

the 2nd works but really slow, also it freezes after you start to play (unstable)

15 August 2014, 23:10

I've gotten ADoom to work. VERY slow. Very cool proof of concept, though!

Sandro · 15 August 2014, 23:10

I got hexen ppc working in winuae

I added directcgx option now works , yet slow but stable

video

[ Show youtube player ]

config: blizzardPPC 128mb AGA

16 August 2014, 00:42

That's about the speed I was running adoom. I'll take a video later.

Schlachtwerk · 16 August 2014, 02:28

Sandro what are you use WarpUp or what ?

Sandro · 16 August 2014, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlachtwerk

Sandro what are you use WarpUp or what ?

in the case of the working hexen is powerup (vaxen.elf) ,warpup hexen ports which I tried not worked

Toni Wilen · 16 August 2014, 19:39

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae_2900b11.zip

Beta 11:

- P5_AMIGA_RESET CSMK3/CSPPC/BPPC bit can be only changed if P5_SELF_RESET is cleared first.
- Never use normal Z3 autoconfig mapping if Blizzard board is emulated to reduce address space conflicts with Blizzard RAM mirror at 0x48000000. Note that this is impossible config, there is no way to have any Z3 boards with BPPC in real world.
- Blizzard PPC rom name renamed to blizzardppc_060.rom and added blizzardppc_040.rom. 68040 and 68060 variants have different (and incompatible) flash rom contents.
- 68000 + no cycle exact and no "more compatible" used wrong memory access method. (b9)
- RTD instruction was set as 68000 compatible (should be 68010+). Incorrect since the beginning.
- Accelerator board ROM select menus didn't select anything.
- Added full CyberStorm MK1 image ($F00000 ROM code is 68060-only), added another 68040 compatible ROM that simulates boards with boot rom jumper disabled or boot rom chip removed. (Original non-flash based boards had separate ROM chip for boot and diag ROMs and boot was only installed if CPU was 68060)
- CyberStorm MK1 SCSI works again.
- Automatically update accelerator board ROM settings when board type is changed in GUI.
- PPC BAT register handling fixed (Technically not emulation bug but OS bug, PPC documentation says '... BEPI and BRPN fields must have at least as many low-order zeros as there are ones in BL.', BEPI and BRPN needs to be masked with BL instead of trusting software doing as documentation says..)
- Added missing PearPC divwu, divwuo, addco, subfco PPC instructions. (Variants of already existing instructions).

Last two updates allows AmigaOS 4.1 Classic to boot.

OS4 note: If you enable Z3 RTG board, it must be mapped at real Z3 space (0x40000000+), "JIT Direct compatible Z3 memory mapping" must be unticked or you must have large enough host address space (=64-bit Windows). OS4 resets the system and autoconfigures all boards, m68k hacks can't work. (NetBSD and Linux work because they read board config data from AOS expansion.library before taking over the system)

Next topic:

PearPC CPU emulator is a dead-end. Missing instructions, only partially emulated instructions, no support for integer overflows, division by zero, illegal instruction exceptions and so on.. (Which means any buggy or badly behaving program can crash the emulator or hang or crash emulated operating system). It did its job, allowed easy and quick PPC emulation test. It would not have happened with any other more complex cores.

It seems most compatible PPC CPU emulation is in QEMU. Dolphin only have experimental MMU support which is not supported in JIT modes. But QEMU is complex, very complex..

What does this mean? It means all PPC CPU related bugs will be ignored until PPC CPU emulator core is replaced (timeframe: unknown.), only exception is bugs that didn't exist in b10.

PPC related discussion goes here, thanks: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=74710

Retrofan · 16 August 2014, 20:04

Wonderful master. It has booted now OS4.1 with my config. Well, I can take a couple of coffes on the meanwhile -don't think it doesn't work- but it works

dlfrsilver · 16 August 2014, 20:34

i have donated for the incredible job you do on Winuae Toni, good reception

Retrofan · 16 August 2014, 20:56

Now my config of BPPC boots with AmiKit Real with the new accelerator roms in the Zone (blizzardPPC_060.rom, the latest, 071).

huepper · 16 August 2014, 21:00

Once again, thank you Toni , it's unbelievable.
The next donation will come. ; )

ppcamiga1 · 16 August 2014, 21:21

And what about the JIT?

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15 August 2014, 18:45	#441
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/AmiHeretic http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/VAxen (didn't test, but this is one I have on my actual Amiga.)

15 August 2014, 19:13	#442
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Which is latest Beta? I can't find it in the thread. Maybe it's a good idea to edit the first post with the latest archive? Edit - I think beta 10 from page 17?

15 August 2014, 20:05	#445
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	I don't wanna go to external sites B10 stops on red screen with my previous working config - will have to delve into a little more although it sounds like we getting a new beta soon anyway (Probably just a setting I'll read thru the last 3 pages again)

15 August 2014, 21:08	#446
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	I don't know you all, but I'm crazy waiting for the next beta...

15 August 2014, 23:10	#450
esc Posts: n/a	I've gotten ADoom to work. VERY slow. Very cool proof of concept, though!

15 August 2014, 23:10	#451
Sandro Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: spain Posts: 897	I got hexen ppc working in winuae I added directcgx option now works , yet slow but stable video [ Show youtube player ] config: blizzardPPC 128mb AGA

16 August 2014, 00:42	#452
esc Posts: n/a	That's about the speed I was running adoom. I'll take a video later.

16 August 2014, 02:28	#453
Schlachtwerk 68k RULEZ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 199	Sandro what are you use WarpUp or what ?

16 August 2014, 19:39	#455
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae_2900b11.zip Beta 11: - P5_AMIGA_RESET CSMK3/CSPPC/BPPC bit can be only changed if P5_SELF_RESET is cleared first. - Never use normal Z3 autoconfig mapping if Blizzard board is emulated to reduce address space conflicts with Blizzard RAM mirror at 0x48000000. Note that this is impossible config, there is no way to have any Z3 boards with BPPC in real world. - Blizzard PPC rom name renamed to blizzardppc_060.rom and added blizzardppc_040.rom. 68040 and 68060 variants have different (and incompatible) flash rom contents. - 68000 + no cycle exact and no "more compatible" used wrong memory access method. (b9) - RTD instruction was set as 68000 compatible (should be 68010+). Incorrect since the beginning. - Accelerator board ROM select menus didn't select anything. - Added full CyberStorm MK1 image ($F00000 ROM code is 68060-only), added another 68040 compatible ROM that simulates boards with boot rom jumper disabled or boot rom chip removed. (Original non-flash based boards had separate ROM chip for boot and diag ROMs and boot was only installed if CPU was 68060) - CyberStorm MK1 SCSI works again. - Automatically update accelerator board ROM settings when board type is changed in GUI. - PPC BAT register handling fixed (Technically not emulation bug but OS bug, PPC documentation says '... BEPI and BRPN fields must have at least as many low-order zeros as there are ones in BL.', BEPI and BRPN needs to be masked with BL instead of trusting software doing as documentation says..) - Added missing PearPC divwu, divwuo, addco, subfco PPC instructions. (Variants of already existing instructions). Last two updates allows AmigaOS 4.1 Classic to boot. OS4 note: If you enable Z3 RTG board, it must be mapped at real Z3 space (0x40000000+), "JIT Direct compatible Z3 memory mapping" must be unticked or you must have large enough host address space (=64-bit Windows). OS4 resets the system and autoconfigures all boards, m68k hacks can't work. (NetBSD and Linux work because they read board config data from AOS expansion.library before taking over the system) Next topic: PearPC CPU emulator is a dead-end. Missing instructions, only partially emulated instructions, no support for integer overflows, division by zero, illegal instruction exceptions and so on.. (Which means any buggy or badly behaving program can crash the emulator or hang or crash emulated operating system). It did its job, allowed easy and quick PPC emulation test. It would not have happened with any other more complex cores. It seems most compatible PPC CPU emulation is in QEMU. Dolphin only have experimental MMU support which is not supported in JIT modes. But QEMU is complex, very complex.. What does this mean? It means all PPC CPU related bugs will be ignored until PPC CPU emulator core is replaced (timeframe: unknown.), only exception is bugs that didn't exist in b10. PPC related discussion goes here, thanks: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=74710

16 August 2014, 20:34	#457
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	i have donated for the incredible job you do on Winuae Toni, good reception

16 August 2014, 20:56	#458
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Now my config of BPPC boots with AmiKit Real with the new accelerator roms in the Zone (blizzardPPC_060.rom, the latest, 071).

16 August 2014, 21:00	#459
huepper Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: GDR Age: 49 Posts: 249	Once again, thank you Toni , it's unbelievable. The next donation will come. ; )

16 August 2014, 21:21	#460
ppcamiga1 Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Vienna/Austria Posts: 15	And what about the JIT?

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