which was, from a technical POV, the best amiga game?

tarr · 26 August 2007, 19:59

I use to answer "Lionheart!", but if i think a moment, I remember that Kid Chaos had the same parallax 3d scrolling, plus the speed of hell...

Which was the most techinaclly achieveing amiga game ever? (list more than one, if necessary)

keropi · 26 August 2007, 20:16

interesting...
Kid Chaos is surelly one of them...

Marcuz · 26 August 2007, 20:19

it's a really difficult question ihmo. I can think of Frontier... to this day i have not the faintest idea how that shitload of data (names of stars and texts for instance the database in addition to the actual game and graphics) could be compressed in a single disk and in about 500 Kb (try compress it also with Powerpacker, it still works...)

Graham Humphrey · 26 August 2007, 20:19

Kid Chaos probably pushes the A500 further than many games... shame it sucks really

Though I know that's missing the point of this thread. How about the tunnel sections in Stardust? Must be some achievement on a standard A500.

StrategyGamer · 26 August 2007, 20:25

A very quick list.

OCS:
Lionheart
Unreal
Wrath of the Demon
Shadow of the Beast #?
Faery Tale Adventure (size of the map)

AGA:
Slamtilt
Banshee
Roadkill
Total Chaos

s2325 · 26 August 2007, 20:29

ECS:
T-Racer
Brian the Lion underwater level
Sierra Soccer
AGA: Zero Gravity

Graham Humphrey · 26 August 2007, 20:31

Didn't Universe manage to use 256 colours in ECS? That's pretty technically impressive, I'd say.

Tony Landais · 26 August 2007, 20:33

Elfmania

tarr · 26 August 2007, 20:41

Jim power had more than 400 colours on screen (stated by coder)

keropi · 26 August 2007, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarr

Jim power had more than 400 colours on screen (stated by coder)

what where? LOL
the DOS 256color version looks way better!

Zetr0 · 26 August 2007, 20:54

This i belive is an interesting thread

I do think its a good idea to section this to chipsets and perhaps processors. arguably you could also include graphics cards but a KEY point would be to put a year / date on it too. as time progresses so does the the skill and abilities of the programmers / developers

For OCS, now this is a little tricky, but I was completely bowled over by sword of sodan but i am sure there are more technical games.

For ECS, I have to agree with marco, Frontier is unbelievable! so much in such a small space.... and a great game to boot!

For AGA, I am still amazed by the technical (and enjoyable) Fears! although i love doom, this German classic is what that game should of been!

For 060 + GFX card I am impressed with the click-boom classic NAPALM

Unfortuantely i never had a PPC .... not sure if i really want one either LOL...

Ironclaw · 26 August 2007, 20:56

Elfmania and Lionheart.... and those games are not even AGA!!!? *shocked*!!!

Lionheart that nice looking art, effect... ehh water... still super smooth scrolling and stuff.

Marcuz · 26 August 2007, 21:00

oh! one more, i don't know if OCS or ECS, but: Lotus Turbo Challenge: fast (great illusion of movement, the track floor was great), illusion of lots of colours on screen, 4 songs + intro, great audio, kerb/curb effect, 30 tracks... one disk only

could have been even better, there's a super-compressed demo on Pouet, 68kb only...

Shoonay · 26 August 2007, 21:01

AmberMoon?

keropi · 26 August 2007, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoonay

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Does whatever a Spider-Pig does.
Can he swing from a web?
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Graham Humphrey · 26 August 2007, 21:31

That was rather random...

Ironclaw · 26 August 2007, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

How about the tunnel sections in Stardust? Must be some achievement on a standard A500.

Not really.. just some bitmaps.. like 6 frames of animation looping... half the screen is those bitmaps and it's duplicated to the other side.. so.. nothing really

.... just a gif animation if you will.

Graham Humphrey · 26 August 2007, 21:58

Ah okay

Still a cool effect though.

Ironclaw · 26 August 2007, 22:01

Yep, it looks mighty impressive

.

spiff · 26 August 2007, 22:38

Nice thread!
I'm not that impressed by all the nice copper parallax games. Beast 1 came out... and things didn't get much better. They all share the problems with colorless foregrounds and sprites, beast 1 just hid it better then most with the green grass. I'm guessing there's some hardware limit to multi directional scrolling with more then 32/64 colours

Dragons lair.. is it technically impressive since amiga was the only system that could do animation (well laserdisc, but thats a whole movie, not animation). Or was it unimpressive due to the fact that animation was all it did on amiga?

I can't really decide, but probably Ruff n Tumble or pinball dreams. Sacrificing the paralax scroll but weighting good graphics with smooth scrolling.

Its still not really the most technically impressive game. That probably goes to something like civilization using a then impressive neural net for enemy simulation (just guessing here)

*edit*
Spider pig is soo yesterweek, now its spider cochon
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26 August 2007, 19:59	#1
tarr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 181	which was, from a technical POV, the best amiga game? I use to answer "Lionheart!", but if i think a moment, I remember that Kid Chaos had the same parallax 3d scrolling, plus the speed of hell... Which was the most techinaclly achieveing amiga game ever? (list more than one, if necessary)

26 August 2007, 22:38	#20
spiff Oh noes! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Neverland Posts: 766	Nice thread! I'm not that impressed by all the nice copper parallax games. Beast 1 came out... and things didn't get much better. They all share the problems with colorless foregrounds and sprites, beast 1 just hid it better then most with the green grass. I'm guessing there's some hardware limit to multi directional scrolling with more then 32/64 colours Dragons lair.. is it technically impressive since amiga was the only system that could do animation (well laserdisc, but thats a whole movie, not animation). Or was it unimpressive due to the fact that animation was all it did on amiga? I can't really decide, but probably Ruff n Tumble or pinball dreams. Sacrificing the paralax scroll but weighting good graphics with smooth scrolling. Its still not really the most technically impressive game. That probably goes to something like civilization using a then impressive neural net for enemy simulation (just guessing here) edit Spider pig is soo yesterweek, now its spider cochon [ Show youtube player ] Last edited by spiff; 26 August 2007 at 22:47. Reason: spider pig

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26 August 2007, 20:16	#2
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	interesting... Kid Chaos is surelly one of them...

26 August 2007, 20:19	#3
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	it's a really difficult question ihmo. I can think of Frontier... to this day i have not the faintest idea how that shitload of data (names of stars and texts for instance the database in addition to the actual game and graphics) could be compressed in a single disk and in about 500 Kb (try compress it also with Powerpacker, it still works...)

26 August 2007, 20:19	#4
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Kid Chaos probably pushes the A500 further than many games... shame it sucks really Though I know that's missing the point of this thread. How about the tunnel sections in Stardust? Must be some achievement on a standard A500.

26 August 2007, 20:25	#5
StrategyGamer Total Chaos AGA is fun! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 873	A very quick list. OCS: Lionheart Unreal Wrath of the Demon Shadow of the Beast #? Faery Tale Adventure (size of the map) AGA: Slamtilt Banshee Roadkill Total Chaos

26 August 2007, 20:29	#6
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	ECS: T-Racer Brian the Lion underwater level Sierra Soccer AGA: Zero Gravity

26 August 2007, 20:31	#7
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Didn't Universe manage to use 256 colours in ECS? That's pretty technically impressive, I'd say.

26 August 2007, 20:33	#8
Tony Landais Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: uk Posts: 426	Elfmania

26 August 2007, 20:41	#9
tarr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 181	Jim power had more than 400 colours on screen (stated by coder)

26 August 2007, 20:54	#11
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	This i belive is an interesting thread I do think its a good idea to section this to chipsets and perhaps processors. arguably you could also include graphics cards but a KEY point would be to put a year / date on it too. as time progresses so does the the skill and abilities of the programmers / developers For OCS, now this is a little tricky, but I was completely bowled over by sword of sodan but i am sure there are more technical games. For ECS, I have to agree with marco, Frontier is unbelievable! so much in such a small space.... and a great game to boot! For AGA, I am still amazed by the technical (and enjoyable) Fears! although i love doom, this German classic is what that game should of been! For 060 + GFX card I am impressed with the click-boom classic NAPALM Unfortuantely i never had a PPC .... not sure if i really want one either LOL...

26 August 2007, 20:56	#12
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Elfmania and Lionheart.... and those games are not even AGA!!!? shocked!!! Lionheart that nice looking art, effect... ehh water... still super smooth scrolling and stuff.

26 August 2007, 21:00	#13
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	oh! one more, i don't know if OCS or ECS, but: Lotus Turbo Challenge: fast (great illusion of movement, the track floor was great), illusion of lots of colours on screen, 4 songs + intro, great audio, kerb/curb effect, 30 tracks... one disk only could have been even better, there's a super-compressed demo on Pouet, 68kb only...

26 August 2007, 21:01	#14
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,106	AmberMoon?

26 August 2007, 21:31	#16
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	That was rather random...

26 August 2007, 21:58	#18
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Ah okay Still a cool effect though.

26 August 2007, 22:01	#19
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Yep, it looks mighty impressive .

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