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Bloodwych · 26 June 2011, 20:22

Ok, I'll have another play around. Yes indeed I do have one huge F: partition.

I'm guessing that G:\ is optional with this bios - it supports one huge F:\ but older bios only support F:\ to 137GB then G:\ the rest?

I launched XBpartitioner and it complained my bios doesn't support LBA 48bit v2 and I can't use custom partitions. But once the app launches, it says LBA 48bit v0 at the top.

It seems the UnleashX thing was actually off the Auto Installer Deluxe disk when it detected an un-prepared hard drive, nothing to do with bios bank switches. I made the mistake as the Phillips drive was having trouble reading a DVDRW; changed to DVD-R and it's happy now.

I think both banks on my Xecuter2 have the same bios. I may upgrade one then to the latest.

Bloodwych · 26 June 2011, 20:36

Ok, I get it now. Each bios release has a number on the end, and that number decides if you get one large F: or an F: and a G: by default on large hard drives.

I'm not sure if my v1.1 XBOX and/or Xecuter2 chip can use larger than 256K bios files, which would make the 4983.06/67 the last ones released.

Only the 512k and 1MB ones support higher version bios.

alexh · 26 June 2011, 20:37

Use UnleashX (or any dashboard) to format F: and it will magically appear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

I'm guessing that G:\ is optional with this bios

Nope. The 06 BIOS's cannot have a G:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

older bios only support F:\ to 137GB then G:\ the rest?

Older BIOS's and the 67 versions of later ones. e.g. 4983.67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

I launched XBpartitioner and it complained my bios doesn't support LBA 48bit v2 and I can't use custom partitions. But once the app launches, it says LBA 48bit v0 at the top.

I think you'll need to upgrade to 5035 before using a hard drive larger than 250GB.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

I think both banks on my Xecuter2 have the same bios. I may upgrade one then to the latest.

If you like. I don't think you need to with a 250GB drive.

Quote:

I'm not sure if my v1.1 XBOX and/or Executer2 chip can use larger than 256K bios files, which would make the 4983.06/67 the last ones released.

Which version of X2 do you have?

Bloodwych · 26 June 2011, 20:40

Thanks Alexh, you've been a great help!

Yeah, 250GB is plenty for this Xbox - just had it sitting around after a PC upgrade so in it went.

More room for EMU roms.

Retroplay · 26 June 2011, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

I think you'll need to upgrade to 5035 before using a hard drive larger than 250GB.

EvoX M8+ and iND-bios 5003 also supports larger drives (both 256kb).
I have M8+ edited with partition 7 (67) support on my spare XBOX with a 300GB drive (TSOP flash).

Bloodwych · 26 June 2011, 21:30

Thanks for the info Retroplay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Which version of X2 do you have?

That's the question. Not sure if it's a genuine Xecuter2 chip. It could be a cheapmod chip with 256K banks! Bought it off ebay years ago already fitted with the Xbox.

I forgot to look when I opened the Xbox; not sure if I can look using a tool, I'll check. It was a blue PCB, with a screw hole at the top, with a blue glowing LED. Also has three DIP switches on a separate mini PCB:

Enable/Disable
Protect on/off
Bank 1/2

As long as it works with the 250GB hard drive, then it desn't matter I guess. Was just thinking of the future.

Do I need to lock the drive or not to work with the original bios (modchip disabled)?

alexh · 26 June 2011, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Do I need to lock the drive or not to work with the original bios (modchip disabled)?

Yes it needs to be locked to work with modchip disabled.

Bloodwych · 26 June 2011, 22:14

Ok, I'm good to go then. Fast help much appreciated.

I think the chip by the way is either a 2.2 or 2.3b LITE+, as they look very similar:

http://www.xboxscene.com/modchips/x-..._pictures.html

Unless other chips looked like that!

And here are the specs, just to add info to this thread (even though it's a softmod thread! Woops!)

http://www.xboxscene.com/modchips3b_table.htm

alexh · 26 June 2011, 23:10

I'm sure you'll be able to upgrade to 5035 then if you fancy it.

My thinking is : If it aint broken, don't fix it.

Bloodwych · 27 June 2011, 00:20

It's a 2.3b LITE+, read it through the side of the case. If I ever use a massive hard drive I'll update, or I may update one of the two banks just for the hell of it.

The Phillips drive on it has just decided to die I think, or has a dirty lens. So it looks like I'm pulling it apart again.

It's decided to stop reading disks (including originals, then started working once after four attempts and I got a dashboard installed, then stopped working again).

I've got a spare XBOX v1.1 for parts however - brother gifted me it. It has a working drive, he hardly used the thing, so it looks like I'll have to pull it out sooner than I thought.

Bloodwych · 27 June 2011, 12:26

Found a strip down guide for the DVD, not that it was very hard to do:

http://www.llamma.com/xbox/phillips_...ssassembly.htm

After cleaning, it's now working again. Time for some XBOX gaming and get all the emulators installed!

Jerry · 20 July 2011, 19:58

Is there a way to get more than 128gig with a 1.0 console with an apparently older bios which doesn't support lba?

kipper2k · 20 July 2011, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry

Is there a way to get more than 128gig with a 1.0 console with an apparently older bios which doesn't support lba?

You just answered your own question in a roundabout way... update the bios to a newer version and get yourself a IDE to Sata adapter to allow you to use a 2tb drive

Jerry · 20 July 2011, 20:30

Okay, as far as I can see I need to make the eeprom writable by soldering the correct spot? Or is there some other way?

kipper2k · 20 July 2011, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry

Okay, as far as I can see I need to make the eeprom writable by soldering the correct spot? Or is there some other way?

depends on which eprom solution you are using,.. my favourite method is doing the James Bond Agent under fire method. There are quite a few options available. xbox-scene.com is a good place to start, they have a lot of tutorials there.

alexh · 20 July 2011, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry

Okay, as far as I can see I need to make the eeprom writable by soldering the correct spot? Or is there some other way?

No need to hard-mod your EPROM. Just do a regular Softmod. NDURE 3.1 uses a version of NKPatcher which supports LBA48.

Jerry · 20 July 2011, 21:33

The box is already modded, if you mean that. Problem is, it has a buggered (aladdin) modchip which I still can boot and use AID on the box. Unfortunately, despite being able to boot some dashboards with the chip enabled, once in the dashboard I cannot load any other items be it applications or games. However using the chip I see the full capacity of the hdd.

But once I install the softmod I only see the first 128 gig of the drive. My hope was that there was some sort of virtual bios, that I wouldn't need to flash and that would give me the full capacity. But then again, I probably really need to read some more documentation...

Edit: Ah, thank you all, so my softmod sucks...

alexh · 20 July 2011, 22:25

Your softmod supports LBA48 but it is likely to be a .67 partition layout (F: is upto 137GB and G: is the rest) and not an .06 (F: is the rest of the drive)

One tweak to the version of NKPATCHER and it will work.

Jerry · 23 July 2011, 09:57

Again, thx for the info. It's much more easy to get these questions answered by someone with experience than wading through a lot of (obsolete) tutorials and stuff.

However, I'm also facing a different problem with a different xbox. I've put a bigger drive in this 1.6 xbox. However as long as I use the original power supply I get the error 9 when booting. Using an additional external power supply everything is fine...I guess this has something to do with hdd spin up times, but I'm not sure. And even if this is the case, is there an (easy) fix for this?

alexh · 23 July 2011, 12:03

Fit a different model/make hard drive.

26 June 2011, 20:36	#722
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Ok, I get it now. Each bios release has a number on the end, and that number decides if you get one large F: or an F: and a G: by default on large hard drives. I'm not sure if my v1.1 XBOX and/or Xecuter2 chip can use larger than 256K bios files, which would make the 4983.06/67 the last ones released. Only the 512k and 1MB ones support higher version bios. Last edited by Bloodwych; 26 June 2011 at 20:51.

26 June 2011, 22:14	#728
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Ok, I'm good to go then. Fast help much appreciated. I think the chip by the way is either a 2.2 or 2.3b LITE+, as they look very similar: http://www.xboxscene.com/modchips/x-..._pictures.html Unless other chips looked like that! And here are the specs, just to add info to this thread (even though it's a softmod thread! Woops!) http://www.xboxscene.com/modchips3b_table.htm Last edited by Bloodwych; 27 June 2011 at 00:21.

20 July 2011, 21:33	#737
Jerry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 210	The box is already modded, if you mean that. Problem is, it has a buggered (aladdin) modchip which I still can boot and use AID on the box. Unfortunately, despite being able to boot some dashboards with the chip enabled, once in the dashboard I cannot load any other items be it applications or games. However using the chip I see the full capacity of the hdd. But once I install the softmod I only see the first 128 gig of the drive. My hope was that there was some sort of virtual bios, that I wouldn't need to flash and that would give me the full capacity. But then again, I probably really need to read some more documentation... Edit: Ah, thank you all, so my softmod sucks... Last edited by Jerry; 20 July 2011 at 21:41.

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26 June 2011, 20:22	#721
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Ok, I'll have another play around. Yes indeed I do have one huge F: partition. I'm guessing that G:\ is optional with this bios - it supports one huge F:\ but older bios only support F:\ to 137GB then G:\ the rest? I launched XBpartitioner and it complained my bios doesn't support LBA 48bit v2 and I can't use custom partitions. But once the app launches, it says LBA 48bit v0 at the top. It seems the UnleashX thing was actually off the Auto Installer Deluxe disk when it detected an un-prepared hard drive, nothing to do with bios bank switches. I made the mistake as the Phillips drive was having trouble reading a DVDRW; changed to DVD-R and it's happy now. I think both banks on my Xecuter2 have the same bios. I may upgrade one then to the latest.

26 June 2011, 20:40	#724
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Thanks Alexh, you've been a great help! Yeah, 250GB is plenty for this Xbox - just had it sitting around after a PC upgrade so in it went. More room for EMU roms.

26 June 2011, 23:10	#729
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	I'm sure you'll be able to upgrade to 5035 then if you fancy it. My thinking is : If it aint broken, don't fix it.

27 June 2011, 00:20	#730
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	It's a 2.3b LITE+, read it through the side of the case. If I ever use a massive hard drive I'll update, or I may update one of the two banks just for the hell of it. The Phillips drive on it has just decided to die I think, or has a dirty lens. So it looks like I'm pulling it apart again. It's decided to stop reading disks (including originals, then started working once after four attempts and I got a dashboard installed, then stopped working again). I've got a spare XBOX v1.1 for parts however - brother gifted me it. It has a working drive, he hardly used the thing, so it looks like I'll have to pull it out sooner than I thought.

27 June 2011, 12:26	#731
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Found a strip down guide for the DVD, not that it was very hard to do: http://www.llamma.com/xbox/phillips_...ssassembly.htm After cleaning, it's now working again. Time for some XBOX gaming and get all the emulators installed!

20 July 2011, 19:58	#732
Jerry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 210	Is there a way to get more than 128gig with a 1.0 console with an apparently older bios which doesn't support lba?

20 July 2011, 20:30	#734
Jerry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 210	Okay, as far as I can see I need to make the eeprom writable by soldering the correct spot? Or is there some other way?

20 July 2011, 22:25	#738
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Your softmod supports LBA48 but it is likely to be a .67 partition layout (F: is upto 137GB and G: is the rest) and not an .06 (F: is the rest of the drive) One tweak to the version of NKPATCHER and it will work.

23 July 2011, 09:57	#739
Jerry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 210	Again, thx for the info. It's much more easy to get these questions answered by someone with experience than wading through a lot of (obsolete) tutorials and stuff. However, I'm also facing a different problem with a different xbox. I've put a bigger drive in this 1.6 xbox. However as long as I use the original power supply I get the error 9 when booting. Using an additional external power supply everything is fine...I guess this has something to do with hdd spin up times, but I'm not sure. And even if this is the case, is there an (easy) fix for this?

23 July 2011, 12:03	#740
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Fit a different model/make hard drive.

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