Assembler for AmigaOS?

oRBIT · 11 June 2009, 13:22

Are there any Amiga coders left that still uses assembler? If so, which assembler do you use?
Asm-Pro hasn't been updated for ages (sadly since it has some 68020+ specific flaws that breaks my code written in Asm-One many years ago), and Asm-One hasn't been updated either (I really miss some features here that's available in Asm-Pro).

StingRay · 11 June 2009, 13:26

I use Asm-Pro most of the time mostly because it has better RTG support than ASM-One. If ASM-Pro complains about a valid 68020 instruction I use ASM-One to get the opcode which I then use in ASM-Pro.

oRBIT · 11 June 2009, 13:30

@Stingray: Yeah, that's the way I have been doing aswell..
Strange that no-one has touched(?) the code of Asm-Pro for several years when it's open-source..

StingRay · 11 June 2009, 13:31

Well, did you ever have a look at the source? No further comments needed! I gave up trying to update it a long time ago and several other coders did the same. I just learnt to live with ASM-Pro's bugs.

oRBIT · 11 June 2009, 13:32

I quickly checked the code and well.. "no" :-)

Vortex · 11 June 2009, 13:40

I use ASMOne (I'm nostalgic

), but only code 68000 stuff, so can't really help here.
In case you didn't know already, follow this link for ASMOne info: http://www.theflamearrows.info/documents/asmone.html

Otherwise just forget this post..

StingRay · 11 June 2009, 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vortex

In case you didn't know already, follow this link for ASMOne info: http://www.theflamearrows.info/documents/asmone.html

vs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oRBIT

and Asm-One hasn't been updated either

I bet he knows that link already. :P

oRBIT · 11 June 2009, 13:46

That website hasn't been updated for ages.. And the authors e-mail doesn't work either.

Asman · 11 June 2009, 13:50

I use Asm-One, Asm-Pro, Basm. Asm-Pro sometimes ( very rare ) hangs on my machine. So I decide to clean-up AsmPro source ( really hard and dirty job ) If I find enough free time ofcoz ( startup section cleaned ). I use Basm to compile whdload slaves.

StingRay · 11 June 2009, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asman

So I decide to clean-up AsmPro source ( really hard and dirty job ) If I find enough free time ofcoz ( startup section cleaned ).

I wish you good luck and a lot of spare time, you will need both.

Many had the same idea, nobody succeeded.

Once you finished cleaning up the source I'll be interested to see how many new bugs ASM-Pro will have.

Vortex · 11 June 2009, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by oRBIT

That website hasn't been updated for ages.. And the authors e-mail doesn't work either.

I saw the author (Boushh?) posting on a Dutch Amiga website not so long ago.
The site is in Dutch, so could be tricky, but I'm willing to try and get in contact with him on your behalf...

oRBIT · 11 June 2009, 14:13

@Vortex: That'd be nice.

I've been talking to him a few times over the years..

I actually have a personal version of Asm-One that's newer than the one he has on his website. :-)

Vortex · 11 June 2009, 14:15

Okay will do.

Have to register first, then I'll try to get in contact with him...
Stay tuned.

EDIT: Registered and posted PM. Now we'll just have to wait...

11 June 2009, 21:03

I use asm-pro and asm-one, but mostly asm-pro because asm-one has goofy errors Stingray can't figure out (:

(Remember, Stingray? The wierd one where no matter what, it used 16 colors and acted like it only had 4 colors? So I had to use a screen promotion utility to fix it, and then some wierdness with the debugger STILL not using the right colors so I couldn't see the line I was debugging? (: )

Apollo · 11 June 2009, 22:49

Nowadays I use PhxAss v3.xx. I edit my files under Windows/Linux with (g)Vim.

Thats a bit for historical reasons : when I quit active coding in the mid-90s I used the same assembler together with GoldEd.

Anding · 13 June 2009, 05:19

I use Devpac 3. There is a great manual available in PDF format and the package includes an IDE. I'm sure there are technical reasons for preferring some of the alternatives, but for ease of use for a non-expert, I think Devpac is great.

Leffmann · 13 June 2009, 10:01

I use ASM-One to just try things quickly, and PhxAss if I write more code/several files.

For PhxAss I edit in Windows using Notepad++ or UltraEdit together with a small program that removes some whitespace first which PhxAss (and every other assembler on the Amiga it seems) doesn't like. GenAm (the actual assembler that the Devpac IDE uses) and PhxAss seem very equal to me, both superior to ASM-One and derivatives in a way since ASM-One only handles single files and can't link. I've never tried Barfly but it seems to be a complete and extended suite.

EDIT: did anyone ever try Argasm?

hitchhikr · 13 June 2009, 15:31

I use vasm/vlink and sometimes asmpro or monam for some debugging.

Wepl · 13 June 2009, 18:37

basm, vim and golded as editor

oRBIT · 15 June 2009, 10:29

Any Amiga-assembler still being developed? If the Natami ever gets released (with it's custom 68050 CPU), it would be really nice to have support for the new extended instructionset that comes with it..

11 June 2009, 13:22	#1
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 339	Assembler for AmigaOS? Are there any Amiga coders left that still uses assembler? If so, which assembler do you use? Asm-Pro hasn't been updated for ages (sadly since it has some 68020+ specific flaws that breaks my code written in Asm-One many years ago), and Asm-One hasn't been updated either (I really miss some features here that's available in Asm-Pro).

11 June 2009, 14:15	#13
Vortex Used Register Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Headvillage / The Nethervoids Age: 50 Posts: 103	Okay will do. Have to register first, then I'll try to get in contact with him... Stay tuned. EDIT: Registered and posted PM. Now we'll just have to wait... Last edited by Vortex; 11 June 2009 at 15:03.

13 June 2009, 10:01	#17
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	I use ASM-One to just try things quickly, and PhxAss if I write more code/several files. For PhxAss I edit in Windows using Notepad++ or UltraEdit together with a small program that removes some whitespace first which PhxAss (and every other assembler on the Amiga it seems) doesn't like. GenAm (the actual assembler that the Devpac IDE uses) and PhxAss seem very equal to me, both superior to ASM-One and derivatives in a way since ASM-One only handles single files and can't link. I've never tried Barfly but it seems to be a complete and extended suite. EDIT: did anyone ever try Argasm? Last edited by Leffmann; 13 June 2009 at 10:07.

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11 June 2009, 13:26	#2
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	I use Asm-Pro most of the time mostly because it has better RTG support than ASM-One. If ASM-Pro complains about a valid 68020 instruction I use ASM-One to get the opcode which I then use in ASM-Pro.

11 June 2009, 13:30	#3
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 339	@Stingray: Yeah, that's the way I have been doing aswell.. Strange that no-one has touched(?) the code of Asm-Pro for several years when it's open-source..

11 June 2009, 13:31	#4
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Well, did you ever have a look at the source? No further comments needed! I gave up trying to update it a long time ago and several other coders did the same. I just learnt to live with ASM-Pro's bugs.

11 June 2009, 13:32	#5
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 339	I quickly checked the code and well.. "no" :-)

11 June 2009, 13:40	#6
Vortex Used Register Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Headvillage / The Nethervoids Age: 50 Posts: 103	I use ASMOne (I'm nostalgic ), but only code 68000 stuff, so can't really help here. In case you didn't know already, follow this link for ASMOne info: http://www.theflamearrows.info/documents/asmone.html Otherwise just forget this post..

11 June 2009, 13:46	#8
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 339	That website hasn't been updated for ages.. And the authors e-mail doesn't work either.

11 June 2009, 13:50	#9
Asman 68k Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 828	I use Asm-One, Asm-Pro, Basm. Asm-Pro sometimes ( very rare ) hangs on my machine. So I decide to clean-up AsmPro source ( really hard and dirty job ) If I find enough free time ofcoz ( startup section cleaned ). I use Basm to compile whdload slaves.

11 June 2009, 14:13	#12
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 339	@Vortex: That'd be nice. I've been talking to him a few times over the years.. I actually have a personal version of Asm-One that's newer than the one he has on his website. :-)

11 June 2009, 21:03	#14
Truck Posts: n/a	I use asm-pro and asm-one, but mostly asm-pro because asm-one has goofy errors Stingray can't figure out (: (Remember, Stingray? The wierd one where no matter what, it used 16 colors and acted like it only had 4 colors? So I had to use a screen promotion utility to fix it, and then some wierdness with the debugger STILL not using the right colors so I couldn't see the line I was debugging? (: )

11 June 2009, 22:49	#15
Apollo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 137	Nowadays I use PhxAss v3.xx. I edit my files under Windows/Linux with (g)Vim. Thats a bit for historical reasons : when I quit active coding in the mid-90s I used the same assembler together with GoldEd.

13 June 2009, 05:19	#16
Anding Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 56	I use Devpac 3. There is a great manual available in PDF format and the package includes an IDE. I'm sure there are technical reasons for preferring some of the alternatives, but for ease of use for a non-expert, I think Devpac is great.

13 June 2009, 15:31	#18
hitchhikr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: somewhere else Posts: 515	I use vasm/vlink and sometimes asmpro or monam for some debugging.

13 June 2009, 18:37	#19
Wepl Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 866	basm, vim and golded as editor

15 June 2009, 10:29	#20
oRBIT Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gothenburg/Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 339	Any Amiga-assembler still being developed? If the Natami ever gets released (with it's custom 68050 CPU), it would be really nice to have support for the new extended instructionset that comes with it..

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