help to choose new pc

turrican3 · 19 November 2019, 06:39

Hi guys,
I think i will buy a new pc near the new year,
I will share my choices with you so far.

CPU Intel Core i5-9600K
GPU Nvidia RTX 2060S (Super)
SSD HP EX920 NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB
RAM G.SKILL Flare X DDR4 3200 C14 2x8GB

what could be a good mobo ??? With a good overclock ??? for the Core i5-9600K ??
Perhaps i did bad choices ?
Which tower do you like ?? Anyone a really good one, or a special one.
For winuae, is there some advices ??

I'll continue to look my side but If you have any advices to share ?? I'll be happy to have them.

Or perhaps a good complete PC with a good price win10 include ???

ps: Sadly, i think i'll have to jump to windows 10.

Why no dx12 on win7 ?

Or a win10 light !!

Shoonay · 19 November 2019, 09:28

Asus PRIME Z390-A is a good mobo for overclocking imho

gimbal · 19 November 2019, 11:48

"For winuae, is there some advices" - huh? Any computer of the past decade and a half will do just fine

If I were shopping for a gaming rig today, I would probably be going for 32gb of ram. There is absolutely no rocket science behind that decision; 16gb is what I put in my current gaming rig, so the next one is going to double it to be future proof.

I am also wondering about that i5 processor, I haven't followed how they have developed so maybe they're still absolute powerhouses. But I put one in my current gaming rig which is now 4 years old and Jmmijo was already questioning my sanity about not going for an i7 back then.

Anubis · 19 November 2019, 14:35

First, for WinUAE, really, my 10 year old PC still plays it well. Even 2GB memory cheap laptop form 5 years ago that has 32GB HD plays ADFs without issues, but struggles with WHDLoad. (this laptop costed ~200 bucks back then and is used for Batocera now)

As for PC, I am planning on creating new gaming rig as well, but more likely will go ADM route.

Something in this route... probably with just more HD space and more memory. (minimum 32GB)

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jmmijo · 19 November 2019, 15:12

If you are looking for a really good gaming rig and not to spend over the top prices then might I suggest going with an AMD setup.

The Ryzen 3600 paired with the 5700/5700XT does quite well.

If you pair that with a nice B450 or X470 motherboard and 16 or 32GB of 3200 memory then you are doing quite well.

If you are going to stuck with Intel and nVidia then yes that 9600K will still do quite nicely but is limited in it's upgradability.

Anubis · 19 November 2019, 15:19

One thing I am also planning - get 2 SSD - one for OS + basic programs - smaller size (250GB or 500GB), second for documents folder / steam library (active games) / emulation (1TB). One hybrid drive should be enough to keep most of games downloaded, backups and some emulation stuff I don't care about speed for read/write (5+TB).

jmmijo · 19 November 2019, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anubis

One thing I am also planning - get 2 SSD - one for OS + basic programs - smaller size (250GB or 500GB), second for documents folder / steam library (active games) / emulation (1TB). One hybrid drive should be enough to keep most of games downloaded, backups and some emulation stuff I don't care about speed for read/write (5+TB).

Here in the US the pricing on both SATA and Nvme SSD;s has gone way down.

I would suggest not skimping on anything less then a 1TB boot/os drive.

Anubis · 19 November 2019, 16:51

As there are more likely to be sales over next 2-3 weeks, I might actually go for larger HD. One mentioned above is kind of minimum what I hope to get.

Thanks!

Ian · 19 November 2019, 23:32

Intel is just the wrong choice right now and for the foreseeable future, go and start again making the right choice.

turrican3 · 22 November 2019, 05:26

32 GB is ok, i understand.
Why is it amd a better choice ???
Sorry but it makes a long time since i have a look to hardware.
A larger ssd, yes why not,1tb, ok seems ok, like the choice of an hybrid drive is normal.
I'm ok with all your suggestion.
Just doesn't know why AMD, but 'll have a second look to it.
About the i5 choice, i'was happy with my i5 2500k bought long ago and i compared the power of a Core i5-9600K vs an i7 and for price i prefer the i5.
But my mind could change.

Thank you for your advices.

Anubis · 22 November 2019, 21:38

Shit, I thought I wrote message here, got somehow lost... Multitasking is getting more and more hard.

Firstly, thing with HD and hybrid drives is more me, since i like to have games downloaded just like Jimmijo. Only difference is that I usually move one that I play to SSD disk. (we are talking only of couple hundred games in my case)

@ Ian, what would you recomend for mobo + cpu + video card?

I was thinking on something in this line...

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Ian · 22 November 2019, 23:34

Really all depends on what you are willing to spend. Cannot go wrong with a Ryzen 3000 series and Nvidia GPU at the moment

Anubis · 23 November 2019, 20:02

You know that I am mr cheappo

As cheap as possible, as good as possible...

~ 500-800 probably for now to start.

spiff · 23 November 2019, 23:53

I'd make sure the motherboard has at least one preferably two M.2 slots, even if it adds another €50. M2 drives (samsung) are so stupendously fast even booting win 10 becomes bearable.

Other than that, if you need to "save" money I'd probably go with a ryzen 2000 build, they'll be dirt cheap on black friday. Then a year or so down the line upgrade it to a 12/16 core ryzen 3000

You can get some really good audio with external DACs like FIIO, as in less noise/flat, instead of spending money on motherboard sound. But for regular gaming, onboard sound is perfectly fine.

Graphics cards are tough though, we're at the end of a console generation. I've been burnt a by AMDs drivers a bit too often, but Nvidia cards are effin overpriced right now. And supposedly the latest AMD card + vulcan should be good in modern games. Things probably won't settle until the Ps5 is out and "raytracing/casting/approximation" support in game engines have become standardized.

For reference here's my summer build. It felt a bit over priced in the end.

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 19MB
Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000MHz CL15 Vengeance LPX
Corsair RM650X 650W v2
Old/used used Geforce 1080
MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC
Fractal Design Define Nano S
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB

gimbal · 25 November 2019, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiff

I'd make sure the motherboard has at least one preferably two M.2 slots, even if it adds another €50. M2 drives (samsung) are so stupendously fast even booting win 10 becomes bearable.

Practical tip, but it looks like the number of boards with zero support for it is incredibly low nowadays.

Shoonay · 25 November 2019, 16:31

Here's a nice CPU: https://www.newegg.com/global/pl-en/...82E16819113616

Anubis · 25 November 2019, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoonay

Here's a nice CPU: https://www.newegg.com/global/pl-en/...82E16819113616

Firstly, 'OUT OF STOCK' and secondly, I am not jmmijo!

gimbal · 25 November 2019, 17:55

Yow Anubis, did you know this thread was created by turrican3? Create your own, you hijacker!

Anubis · 25 November 2019, 18:07

Here, fixed, just for you:

Firstly, 'OUT OF STOCK' and secondly, WE are not jmmijo!

Happy now???

jmmijo · 25 November 2019, 21:16

Yeah and I got my notification email stating IT's HERE too

19 November 2019, 06:39	#1
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 43 Posts: 3,620	help to choose new pc Hi guys, I think i will buy a new pc near the new year, I will share my choices with you so far. CPU Intel Core i5-9600K GPU Nvidia RTX 2060S (Super) SSD HP EX920 NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB RAM G.SKILL Flare X DDR4 3200 C14 2x8GB what could be a good mobo ??? With a good overclock ??? for the Core i5-9600K ?? Perhaps i did bad choices ? Which tower do you like ?? Anyone a really good one, or a special one. For winuae, is there some advices ?? I'll continue to look my side but If you have any advices to share ?? I'll be happy to have them. Or perhaps a good complete PC with a good price win10 include ??? ps: Sadly, i think i'll have to jump to windows 10. Why no dx12 on win7 ? Or a win10 light !! Last edited by turrican3; 19 November 2019 at 06:48.

19 November 2019, 11:48	#3
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 3,465	"For winuae, is there some advices" - huh? Any computer of the past decade and a half will do just fine If I were shopping for a gaming rig today, I would probably be going for 32gb of ram. There is absolutely no rocket science behind that decision; 16gb is what I put in my current gaming rig, so the next one is going to double it to be future proof. I am also wondering about that i5 processor, I haven't followed how they have developed so maybe they're still absolute powerhouses. But I put one in my current gaming rig which is now 4 years old and Jmmijo was already questioning my sanity about not going for an i7 back then. Last edited by gimbal; 25 November 2019 at 14:58. Reason: time flies, my current machine is actually four years old.

22 November 2019, 21:38	#11
Anubis Maj. Voodoo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raking Woods... Age: 47 Posts: 2,846	Shit, I thought I wrote message here, got somehow lost... Multitasking is getting more and more hard. Firstly, thing with HD and hybrid drives is more me, since i like to have games downloaded just like Jimmijo. Only difference is that I usually move one that I play to SSD disk. (we are talking only of couple hundred games in my case) @ Ian, what would you recomend for mobo + cpu + video card? I was thinking on something in this line... [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ] Last edited by Anubis; 22 November 2019 at 22:27.

23 November 2019, 23:53	#14
spiff Oh noes! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Neverland Posts: 706	I'd make sure the motherboard has at least one preferably two M.2 slots, even if it adds another €50. M2 drives (samsung) are so stupendously fast even booting win 10 becomes bearable. Other than that, if you need to "save" money I'd probably go with a ryzen 2000 build, they'll be dirt cheap on black friday. Then a year or so down the line upgrade it to a 12/16 core ryzen 3000 You can get some really good audio with external DACs like FIIO, as in less noise/flat, instead of spending money on motherboard sound. But for regular gaming, onboard sound is perfectly fine. Graphics cards are tough though, we're at the end of a console generation. I've been burnt a by AMDs drivers a bit too often, but Nvidia cards are effin overpriced right now. And supposedly the latest AMD card + vulcan should be good in modern games. Things probably won't settle until the Ps5 is out and "raytracing/casting/approximation" support in game engines have become standardized. For reference here's my summer build. It felt a bit over priced in the end. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 19MB Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000MHz CL15 Vengeance LPX Corsair RM650X 650W v2 Old/used used Geforce 1080 MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC Fractal Design Define Nano S Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB Last edited by spiff; 24 November 2019 at 00:20.

25 November 2019, 18:07	#19
Anubis Maj. Voodoo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raking Woods... Age: 47 Posts: 2,846	Here, fixed, just for you: Firstly, 'OUT OF STOCK' and secondly, WE are not jmmijo! Happy now??? Last edited by Anubis; 25 November 2019 at 20:22.

19 November 2019, 09:28	#2
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Posts: 6,047	Asus PRIME Z390-A is a good mobo for overclocking imho

19 November 2019, 14:35	#4
Anubis Maj. Voodoo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raking Woods... Age: 47 Posts: 2,846	First, for WinUAE, really, my 10 year old PC still plays it well. Even 2GB memory cheap laptop form 5 years ago that has 32GB HD plays ADFs without issues, but struggles with WHDLoad. (this laptop costed ~200 bucks back then and is used for Batocera now) As for PC, I am planning on creating new gaming rig as well, but more likely will go ADM route. Something in this route... probably with just more HD space and more memory. (minimum 32GB) [ Show youtube player ]

19 November 2019, 15:12	#5
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 57 Posts: 2,372	If you are looking for a really good gaming rig and not to spend over the top prices then might I suggest going with an AMD setup. The Ryzen 3600 paired with the 5700/5700XT does quite well. If you pair that with a nice B450 or X470 motherboard and 16 or 32GB of 3200 memory then you are doing quite well. If you are going to stuck with Intel and nVidia then yes that 9600K will still do quite nicely but is limited in it's upgradability.

19 November 2019, 15:19	#6
Anubis Maj. Voodoo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raking Woods... Age: 47 Posts: 2,846	One thing I am also planning - get 2 SSD - one for OS + basic programs - smaller size (250GB or 500GB), second for documents folder / steam library (active games) / emulation (1TB). One hybrid drive should be enough to keep most of games downloaded, backups and some emulation stuff I don't care about speed for read/write (5+TB).

19 November 2019, 16:51	#8
Anubis Maj. Voodoo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raking Woods... Age: 47 Posts: 2,846	As there are more likely to be sales over next 2-3 weeks, I might actually go for larger HD. One mentioned above is kind of minimum what I hope to get. Thanks!

19 November 2019, 23:32	#9
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 41 Posts: 2,186	Intel is just the wrong choice right now and for the foreseeable future, go and start again making the right choice.

22 November 2019, 05:26	#10
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 43 Posts: 3,620	32 GB is ok, i understand. Why is it amd a better choice ??? Sorry but it makes a long time since i have a look to hardware. A larger ssd, yes why not,1tb, ok seems ok, like the choice of an hybrid drive is normal. I'm ok with all your suggestion. Just doesn't know why AMD, but 'll have a second look to it. About the i5 choice, i'was happy with my i5 2500k bought long ago and i compared the power of a Core i5-9600K vs an i7 and for price i prefer the i5. But my mind could change. Thank you for your advices.

22 November 2019, 23:34	#12
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 41 Posts: 2,186	Really all depends on what you are willing to spend. Cannot go wrong with a Ryzen 3000 series and Nvidia GPU at the moment

23 November 2019, 20:02	#13
Anubis Maj. Voodoo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raking Woods... Age: 47 Posts: 2,846	You know that I am mr cheappo As cheap as possible, as good as possible... ~ 500-800 probably for now to start.

25 November 2019, 16:31	#16
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Posts: 6,047	Here's a nice CPU: https://www.newegg.com/global/pl-en/...82E16819113616

25 November 2019, 17:55	#18
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 3,465	Yow Anubis, did you know this thread was created by turrican3? Create your own, you hijacker!

25 November 2019, 21:16	#20
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 57 Posts: 2,372	Yeah and I got my notification email stating IT's HERE too

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