Sound issues in Roadkill A1200 in 2.7.0

DJ Mike · 29 December 2013, 20:36

Trying to run the disk version of Roadkill (IPF-sourced) in WinUAE and I'm getting some weird issues with the sound. The title music is fine but when you race around the track most of the sound effects are just replaced with noise (although you can hear the rev sound pitching up and down, just that it's noise instead of an actual sound!) - I've tried a QuickStart config for A1200 and my own config and nothing seems to solve it. Any ideas?

Nobby_UK · 30 December 2013, 01:38

Windowed or Full-Screen ?

I get bum sound from WinUAE in Windowed Mode.

Toni Wilen · 30 December 2013, 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK

Windowed or Full-Screen ?

I get bum sound from WinUAE in Windowed Mode.

I don't think so. It would affect all games, not just one. (Windowed mode slowdown = bad driver, too slow PC, some weird display driver control panel config, double vs triple buffer change may also help sometimes)

Bamiga2002 · 30 December 2013, 08:36

This also happens with a real Amiga with ACA 1230. Should file a mantis bugreport.

DJ Mike · 30 December 2013, 23:07

Bamiga2002: That's interesting to know. I think the last time I played this on a real Amiga was my vanilla 1200... wonder if it would have the same issue with the Blizzard 030 I have now... Quite possible it really is just a bug with the game then!

I'm running in fullscreen but as Toni says that shouldn't really make a difference.

Bamiga2002 · 31 December 2013, 06:34

Tested Roadkill WHDLoad (version 2.1-B - 22.05.05) with A1200+BPPC, same thing. It's like a fuzzing sound when you drive around the tracks, and the AGA-version is the culprit - CD32-version sound is OK.

DJ Mike · 31 December 2013, 11:11

That's curious - I tried CD32 version in WinUAE with WHDLoad install and still got the buzzing sound.

Should point out that it's more intermittent than I thought though. Occasionally the sound will work just fine but then you can go on to the next track or even be half way round the one you're on and some of the sounds will suddenly turn to static.

Toni Wilen · 31 December 2013, 11:50

It probably is bad sound DMA waits + 68020 CE mode being not accurate enough yet. It would also explain why it only happens on faster real hardware.

Octopus66 · 18 August 2016, 10:44

Hi all - does anyone have any suggestions for a config which will minimise this sound error in newest WinuAE 3.3.0?
Toni - is there any chance of this being fixed in the future? If you are right I assume this could be a long way off?
Thanks

27 March 2019, 01:03

still the same problem 5 yrs later , this time it does the same on my tf330 030 and also did it on the tf328, the cd32 version starts out working ok,then when i fire a rocket,the accelerate button on the joypad no longer works.
So probably a problem with the whdload version of the 2.1b version of the game rather than a winuae problem.

jotd · 23 February 2020, 23:23

2.2 fixes the control problem. For the sound, I couldn't reproduce yet, which is frustrating, as so many people have the issue

hexaae · 24 February 2020, 03:14

Try these settings (tooltypes for the WHDLoad icon) for Roadkill CD32/A1200:

SLAVE=RoadkillCD32.Slave
PRELOAD
ExecuteStartup=
ExecutePostDisk=uae-configuration cachesize 0 cpu_speed real cpu_compatible false

(assuming you have C:uae-configuration tool in your command path). No trashed samples.

jotd · 24 February 2020, 06:49

I don"t care about a winuae setting that fixes the sound. If real amigas have issues with the sound, I'd prefer a winuae setting that trashes the sound so I can 1) reproduce 2) fix.

hexaae · 24 February 2020, 10:56

Ah didn't notice it was reported on real HW.

Daedalus · 24 February 2020, 11:31

Yep, I have the original floppy disk version of this game and can confirm that the sound effects in-game are corrupted on my accelerated A1200. A WHDLoad version I downloaded however works fine with all sound intact on the same machine. I can't remember what version it is exactly - maybe the CD32 version?

jotd · 24 February 2020, 11:55

Yes. Some people reported that the CD32 version has no sound issues when the AGA version had issues. Some reported that CD32 version had issues too... Go figure

@Daedalus can you test the AGA version on your machine? I can provide it if you don't have it

Daedalus · 24 February 2020, 12:17

Sure, I don't have access to my original disks at the moment and I'm not 100% sure I have it installed (or have images of the disks) since I found a different version that works, so if you have an archive you'd like me to try, send it on. It might be a few days but I'll try it out soon.

I'll PM you my email address.

DamienD · 24 February 2020, 12:48

I would say just test using Retroplay's preinstalled package:

Roadkill_v2.2_AGA_1108.lha

29 December 2013, 20:36	#1
DJ Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 41 Posts: 100	Sound issues in Roadkill A1200 in 2.7.0 Trying to run the disk version of Roadkill (IPF-sourced) in WinUAE and I'm getting some weird issues with the sound. The title music is fine but when you race around the track most of the sound effects are just replaced with noise (although you can hear the rev sound pitching up and down, just that it's noise instead of an actual sound!) - I've tried a QuickStart config for A1200 and my own config and nothing seems to solve it. Any ideas?

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30 December 2013, 01:38	#2
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,599	Windowed or Full-Screen ? I get bum sound from WinUAE in Windowed Mode.

30 December 2013, 08:36	#4
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	This also happens with a real Amiga with ACA 1230. Should file a mantis bugreport.

30 December 2013, 23:07	#5
DJ Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 41 Posts: 100	Bamiga2002: That's interesting to know. I think the last time I played this on a real Amiga was my vanilla 1200... wonder if it would have the same issue with the Blizzard 030 I have now... Quite possible it really is just a bug with the game then! I'm running in fullscreen but as Toni says that shouldn't really make a difference.

31 December 2013, 06:34	#6
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Tested Roadkill WHDLoad (version 2.1-B - 22.05.05) with A1200+BPPC, same thing. It's like a fuzzing sound when you drive around the tracks, and the AGA-version is the culprit - CD32-version sound is OK.

31 December 2013, 11:11	#7
DJ Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 41 Posts: 100	That's curious - I tried CD32 version in WinUAE with WHDLoad install and still got the buzzing sound. Should point out that it's more intermittent than I thought though. Occasionally the sound will work just fine but then you can go on to the next track or even be half way round the one you're on and some of the sounds will suddenly turn to static.

31 December 2013, 11:50	#8
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,534	It probably is bad sound DMA waits + 68020 CE mode being not accurate enough yet. It would also explain why it only happens on faster real hardware.

18 August 2016, 10:44	#9
Octopus66 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: London Posts: 338	Hi all - does anyone have any suggestions for a config which will minimise this sound error in newest WinuAE 3.3.0? Toni - is there any chance of this being fixed in the future? If you are right I assume this could be a long way off? Thanks

27 March 2019, 01:03	#10
xubidoo Posts: n/a	still the same problem 5 yrs later , this time it does the same on my tf330 030 and also did it on the tf328, the cd32 version starts out working ok,then when i fire a rocket,the accelerate button on the joypad no longer works. So probably a problem with the whdload version of the 2.1b version of the game rather than a winuae problem.

23 February 2020, 23:23	#11
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,303	2.2 fixes the control problem. For the sound, I couldn't reproduce yet, which is frustrating, as so many people have the issue

24 February 2020, 03:14	#12
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,165	Try these settings (tooltypes for the WHDLoad icon) for Roadkill CD32/A1200: SLAVE=RoadkillCD32.Slave PRELOAD ExecuteStartup= ExecutePostDisk=uae-configuration cachesize 0 cpu_speed real cpu_compatible false (assuming you have C:uae-configuration tool in your command path). No trashed samples.

24 February 2020, 06:49	#13
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,303	I don"t care about a winuae setting that fixes the sound. If real amigas have issues with the sound, I'd prefer a winuae setting that trashes the sound so I can 1) reproduce 2) fix.

24 February 2020, 10:56	#14
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,165	Ah didn't notice it was reported on real HW.

24 February 2020, 11:31	#15
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,368	Yep, I have the original floppy disk version of this game and can confirm that the sound effects in-game are corrupted on my accelerated A1200. A WHDLoad version I downloaded however works fine with all sound intact on the same machine. I can't remember what version it is exactly - maybe the CD32 version?

24 February 2020, 11:55	#16
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,303	Yes. Some people reported that the CD32 version has no sound issues when the AGA version had issues. Some reported that CD32 version had issues too... Go figure @Daedalus can you test the AGA version on your machine? I can provide it if you don't have it

24 February 2020, 12:17	#17
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,368	Sure, I don't have access to my original disks at the moment and I'm not 100% sure I have it installed (or have images of the disks) since I found a different version that works, so if you have an archive you'd like me to try, send it on. It might be a few days but I'll try it out soon. I'll PM you my email address.

24 February 2020, 12:48	#18
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I would say just test using Retroplay's preinstalled package: Roadkill_v2.2_AGA_1108.lha

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