D/Generation CD32 save/load issue

th4t1guy · 23 July 2018, 00:10

I'm playing the whdload install of D/Generation CD32 on a CD32 and noticed that the save and load features to the NVRAM don't work, but playing direct from the disc is fine.
Is there something I can do to enable this?

daxb · 23 July 2018, 13:00

The readme says that it saves to HD (in data/DGEN.nvd). On AGA version it saves to data/SAVE.DAT. I don't know how NVRAM works. Maybe you need a HD to save.

th4t1guy · 23 July 2018, 14:42

Thanks. I missed that part in the readme and just assumed it was using NVRAM.
I'm playing from an SX-1 with a cf card running WB 3.1. I noticed there was no DGEN.nvd file, so I created one in the data folder. However, when I try to save, I still get the message "Previous Save Locked".

daxb · 23 July 2018, 15:33

Delete the created file and start the game again. Save a game and see what the message shows. If saving was successful after quit the game the save file should be in data dir.

th4t1guy · 25 July 2018, 04:35

I deleted the file and still get the same error. When I run the game through WinUAE, I get the same error as well.

jotd · 25 July 2018, 11:25

Saves won't work on ANY whdload slave from a CD32 (unless you have a writable disk). Trying to write on write-protected drive does nothing IIRC. Or is it whdloadcd32 ?

WHDLoad doesn't support NVRam or nonvolatile.device.

daxb · 25 July 2018, 13:20

I don't know how WHDLoad32 works, but he has a CF with OS3.1 and start the game from there (if I understand it right). So saving should work in some way at least.

Maybe try some other game and save a game or highscore to see if that works.

th4t1guy · 25 July 2018, 16:38

Other WHDLoad games seem to save highscores and data just fine (Emerald Mine, for example), and my winUAE setup is A4000 based (68040, 128mb, a4000 roms).
I mount the CF card in winUAE to do all the heavy lifting, then plug it into the cd32 to run on real hardware.

It seems maybe this version I have doesn't work. Does saving in this game work for anyone else?

jotd · 25 July 2018, 21:18

Ah ok. There were similar issues with pinball fantasies. The save dir probably doesnt exist. I ll have a look if i dont raise a mantis issue

th4t1guy · 26 July 2018, 03:57

Thanks for taking a peek at it!

jotd · 26 July 2018, 23:36

Yes there were several problems. I have zoned a new installation. Can you test this ? (read the readme, reinstalling is recommended but you can bypass it by updating the slave and the savefile if it's copied in SAVES/DGEN as "1")

th4t1guy · 27 July 2018, 06:16

I tried installing fresh as well as just just updating the slave, but both ways still give me the locked error.

If it matters, I'm trying to save through the game menu with the cd32 RWD button.

jotd · 27 July 2018, 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by th4t1guy

I tried installing fresh as well as just just updating the slave, but both ways still give me the locked error.

If it matters, I'm trying to save through the game menu with the cd32 RWD button.

could you enable FILELOG tooltype and send what's in T:FILELOG after trying to save & quit?

Wepl · 28 July 2018, 22:32

@JOTD: you may try my newly implemented nonvolitle.s, it doesn't need any directories

jotd · 28 July 2018, 22:54

Yes, I'll try that. But it works for me here. I had to disable "Delete" and use a delay to avoid several saves/flashes when saving using Alt-S. Basically the saves work for me.

I'd really need the output of FILELOG.

th4t1guy · 31 July 2018, 04:09

Sorry, I have not been able to get FileLog to work for some strange reason.
When I set the tooltype, I run the game, try to save, then exit out of the game with the PrtSrc key. There's no log file in T: or the progdir.

The weird thing is the tooltype disappears after I run the game. I tried setting "FileLog/S" and nothing logs out then either, but that tooltype will remain after I run the game.

Running ClassicWB 3.1 with whdload 18.2.5735

jotd · 31 July 2018, 10:11

Run like

Whdload dgen.slave preload filelog

StingRay · 31 July 2018, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by th4t1guy

There's no log file in T: or the progdir.

The filelog is stored in the C: directory (".whdl_log").

Wepl · 31 July 2018, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by th4t1guy

The weird thing is the tooltype disappears after I run the game.

probably it was never saved, maybe icon is write protected?

th4t1guy · 01 August 2018, 14:48

Thanks.

The logs should be using the slave in this thread.

degeneration.slave is the fresh install from disc,
dgenerationcd32.slave is existing install.

23 July 2018, 00:10	#1
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	D/Generation CD32 save/load issue I'm playing the whdload install of D/Generation CD32 on a CD32 and noticed that the save and load features to the NVRAM don't work, but playing direct from the disc is fine. Is there something I can do to enable this?

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23 July 2018, 13:00	#2
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	The readme says that it saves to HD (in data/DGEN.nvd). On AGA version it saves to data/SAVE.DAT. I don't know how NVRAM works. Maybe you need a HD to save.

23 July 2018, 14:42	#3
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	Thanks. I missed that part in the readme and just assumed it was using NVRAM. I'm playing from an SX-1 with a cf card running WB 3.1. I noticed there was no DGEN.nvd file, so I created one in the data folder. However, when I try to save, I still get the message "Previous Save Locked".

23 July 2018, 15:33	#4
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Delete the created file and start the game again. Save a game and see what the message shows. If saving was successful after quit the game the save file should be in data dir.

25 July 2018, 04:35	#5
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	I deleted the file and still get the same error. When I run the game through WinUAE, I get the same error as well.

25 July 2018, 11:25	#6
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	Saves won't work on ANY whdload slave from a CD32 (unless you have a writable disk). Trying to write on write-protected drive does nothing IIRC. Or is it whdloadcd32 ? WHDLoad doesn't support NVRam or nonvolatile.device.

25 July 2018, 13:20	#7
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	I don't know how WHDLoad32 works, but he has a CF with OS3.1 and start the game from there (if I understand it right). So saving should work in some way at least. Maybe try some other game and save a game or highscore to see if that works.

25 July 2018, 16:38	#8
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	Other WHDLoad games seem to save highscores and data just fine (Emerald Mine, for example), and my winUAE setup is A4000 based (68040, 128mb, a4000 roms). I mount the CF card in winUAE to do all the heavy lifting, then plug it into the cd32 to run on real hardware. It seems maybe this version I have doesn't work. Does saving in this game work for anyone else?

25 July 2018, 21:18	#9
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	Ah ok. There were similar issues with pinball fantasies. The save dir probably doesnt exist. I ll have a look if i dont raise a mantis issue

26 July 2018, 03:57	#10
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	Thanks for taking a peek at it!

27 July 2018, 06:16	#12
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	I tried installing fresh as well as just just updating the slave, but both ways still give me the locked error. If it matters, I'm trying to save through the game menu with the cd32 RWD button.

28 July 2018, 22:32	#14
Wepl Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 866	@JOTD: you may try my newly implemented nonvolitle.s, it doesn't need any directories

28 July 2018, 22:54	#15
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	Yes, I'll try that. But it works for me here. I had to disable "Delete" and use a delay to avoid several saves/flashes when saving using Alt-S. Basically the saves work for me. I'd really need the output of FILELOG.

31 July 2018, 04:09	#16
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	Sorry, I have not been able to get FileLog to work for some strange reason. When I set the tooltype, I run the game, try to save, then exit out of the game with the PrtSrc key. There's no log file in T: or the progdir. The weird thing is the tooltype disappears after I run the game. I tried setting "FileLog/S" and nothing logs out then either, but that tooltype will remain after I run the game. Running ClassicWB 3.1 with whdload 18.2.5735

31 July 2018, 10:11	#17
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	Run like Whdload dgen.slave preload filelog

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