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Moroder · 28 August 2009, 15:44

I don't think there's anything wrong with the keys themselves, could it could be the cable that connects they keyboard to the motherboard?

prowler · 28 August 2009, 16:02

Yes, but it's more likely to be a connection that those three keys share on the keyboard's PCB.

The keys that share a common connection are found along a line which is inclined at about 30º to the right, e.g. the keys Z,S,E,4 and M,K,O,0, etc. On that basis, the spacebar, enter key and backspace key may share a common connection. Does the right shift key work?

Moroder · 28 August 2009, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Yes, but it's more likely to be a connection that those three keys share on the keyboard's PCB.

The keys that share a common connection are found along a line which is inclined at about 30º to the right, e.g. the keys Z,S,E,4 and M,K,O,0, etc. On that basis, the spacebar, enter key and backspace key may share a common connection. Does the right shift key work?

Hmm I don't think I have a way of checking... but if this is the problem, how do I fix it?

prowler · 28 August 2009, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moroder

Hmm I don't think I have a way of checking... but if this is the problem, how do I fix it?

There was another thread here recently that discussed a keyboard problem of this nature. I'll try to find it and post a link here.

prowler · 28 August 2009, 19:54

Okay, I've found the thread. Here it is:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=46585

It turns out that the keys that share a common connection are found along a line which is inclined at about 30º to the left, i.e. the keys '9', 'O', 'L', and ',' and '0', 'P', ';', and '/', etc.

That does not alter the possibility that the spacebar, enter key and backspace key may share a common connection. Can you confirm whether your right shift key works?

Have a look at that thread to see if it gives you any ideas. Unfortunately, I cannot really be of any more help to you without having a look at the faulty keyboard in action myself.

Moroder · 29 August 2009, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Okay, I've found the thread. Here it is:
Have a look at that thread to see if it gives you any ideas. Unfortunately, I cannot really be of any more help to you without having a look at the faulty keyboard in action myself.

I'm convinced that this is the problem. so, I just have to get a new one of those green membranes? they are cheap on ebay...

prowler · 29 August 2009, 17:38

Yes. Good luck!

Moroder · 29 August 2009, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Yes. Good luck!

thanks, and thanks for the help! I appreciate it! can't wait to get it fixed up and upgraded etc :-)

prowler · 29 August 2009, 18:37

You're welcome, mate!

THe A600 is a nice machine, and well worth making an effort with.

Moroder · 01 September 2009, 18:13

okay, got the keyboard thing figured out. next step, to get a hard drive. I want to get one of those compact flash harddrives, however I read somewhere that systems with kickstart roms below 2.05 rev 37.350 do not support harddrives? my amiga has kickstart 2.0 rev 37.300, so I can't use a hard drive? could someone please explain? :-)

Jope · 01 September 2009, 20:52

Should work, but if you run into problems, upgrade to 37.350 or newer.

Moroder · 01 September 2009, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

Should work, but if you run into problems, upgrade to 37.350 or newer.

thanks will try. keeping my fingers crossed :-)

prowler · 01 September 2009, 21:06

Hi Moroder,

With your Kickstart 2.0 rev 37.300 you can use a hard drive, but its maximum size is limited to 40MB!!

Edit: No, wait! It's not quite as clear cut as that. For clarification, see this post.

Moroder · 01 September 2009, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Hi Moroder,

With your Kickstart 2.0 rev 37.300 you can use a hard drive, but its maximum size is limited to 40MB!!

hahaha... ok. well, gonna get a new kickstart then.. which one should I get?

prowler · 01 September 2009, 21:11

Hey, wait!

See my edit above.

Moroder · 01 September 2009, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Hey, wait!

See my edit above.

I see, thanks. I was going to get a 2 gb card, will see if it works, if not, I will get a new kickstart.
thanks again!

Jope · 01 September 2009, 21:49

Yep, like I said.. Try it first and upgrade if it didn't work. For some reason, no-one has investigated into the differences between 37.300 and 37.350, but the 40MB limit is not quite so straightforward, that's for sure.. :-)

rkauer · 01 September 2009, 23:11

I used an 6.5Gb IBM Travelstar on ks37.300. The drive died some time after (due its own problems, BTW), then I tossed a 2Gb one and it works, too.

But now my A600 have 3.1 ROM (because I can - tm).

Pyromania · 01 September 2009, 23:50

That's very very damn lucky.

dlfrsilver · 02 September 2009, 06:01

lucky bar steward lol

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28 August 2009, 15:44	#21
Moroder Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: aarhus / denmark Posts: 58	I don't think there's anything wrong with the keys themselves, could it could be the cable that connects they keyboard to the motherboard?

28 August 2009, 16:02	#22
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Yes, but it's more likely to be a connection that those three keys share on the keyboard's PCB. The keys that share a common connection are found along a line which is inclined at about 30º to the right, e.g. the keys Z,S,E,4 and M,K,O,0, etc. On that basis, the spacebar, enter key and backspace key may share a common connection. Does the right shift key work?

28 August 2009, 19:54	#25
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Okay, I've found the thread. Here it is: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=46585 It turns out that the keys that share a common connection are found along a line which is inclined at about 30º to the left, i.e. the keys '9', 'O', 'L', and ',' and '0', 'P', ';', and '/', etc. That does not alter the possibility that the spacebar, enter key and backspace key may share a common connection. Can you confirm whether your right shift key works? Have a look at that thread to see if it gives you any ideas. Unfortunately, I cannot really be of any more help to you without having a look at the faulty keyboard in action myself.

29 August 2009, 17:38	#27
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Yes. Good luck!

29 August 2009, 18:37	#29
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	You're welcome, mate! THe A600 is a nice machine, and well worth making an effort with.

01 September 2009, 18:13	#30
Moroder Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: aarhus / denmark Posts: 58	okay, got the keyboard thing figured out. next step, to get a hard drive. I want to get one of those compact flash harddrives, however I read somewhere that systems with kickstart roms below 2.05 rev 37.350 do not support harddrives? my amiga has kickstart 2.0 rev 37.300, so I can't use a hard drive? could someone please explain? :-)

01 September 2009, 20:52	#31
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Should work, but if you run into problems, upgrade to 37.350 or newer.

01 September 2009, 21:06	#33
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi Moroder, With your Kickstart 2.0 rev 37.300 you can use a hard drive, but its maximum size is limited to 40MB!! Edit: No, wait! It's not quite as clear cut as that. For clarification, see this post.

01 September 2009, 21:11	#35
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hey, wait! See my edit above.

01 September 2009, 21:49	#37
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Yep, like I said.. Try it first and upgrade if it didn't work. For some reason, no-one has investigated into the differences between 37.300 and 37.350, but the 40MB limit is not quite so straightforward, that's for sure.. :-)

01 September 2009, 23:11	#38
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	I used an 6.5Gb IBM Travelstar on ks37.300. The drive died some time after (due its own problems, BTW), then I tossed a 2Gb one and it works, too. But now my A600 have 3.1 ROM (because I can - tm).

01 September 2009, 23:50	#39
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	That's very very damn lucky.

02 September 2009, 06:01	#40
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	lucky bar steward lol

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