FlashFloppy - new firmware for Gotek drives, open source - Page 38

Methanoid · 01 January 2018, 20:34

Sorry but I am gonna ask the dumb Qs I have been browsing the thread for...

My Gotek has one LED and one hidden behind the panel. What does the 2nd one do and do I just make a hole and route it thru?

Where can I get a decent knob for the rotary encoder, that fits and allows it to still be used to select (eBay link?). It looks a bit "urban" as a bare knob!

Thanks Kaffer for some excellent firmware BTW!

Sinphaltimus · 01 January 2018, 22:45

It's the power LED.

I pulled a knob off an old amplifier

FREEMILK · 02 January 2018, 18:29

I am doing up a few 3d print files to make a nice A1200 install i will share here once completed.
Also has anyone thought about making a badge display, for example a nice display that fits exact where the badge is on A1200 then have the firmware display the model LOGO instead of putting the display to sleep.

BarryB · 04 January 2018, 17:09

How reliable are the 1602A LCD's?

I've just connected my FF back up to my A500 to test an ADF and the display is now blank? Was working fine a few months ago, all I've done is unplug the floppy/power and put it to one side and now reconnected it and the display is blank, still has same config on the USB stick and same firmware? Tried adjusting the pot on the backpack but can see a faint display when full up but that's all!!

Keir · 11 January 2018, 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

How reliable are the 1602A LCD's?

I've just connected my FF back up to my A500 to test an ADF and the display is now blank? Was working fine a few months ago, all I've done is unplug the floppy/power and put it to one side and now reconnected it and the display is blank, still has same config on the USB stick and same firmware? Tried adjusting the pot on the backpack but can see a faint display when full up but that's all!!

Is the LCD connected to 5v power (not 3v)? If connected to less than 5v then display contrast is very poor.

Keir · 11 January 2018, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methanoid

Sorry but I am gonna ask the dumb Qs I have been browsing the thread for...

My Gotek has one LED and one hidden behind the panel. What does the 2nd one do and do I just make a hole and route it thru?

Where can I get a decent knob for the rotary encoder, that fits and allows it to still be used to select (eBay link?). It looks a bit "urban" as a bare knob!

Thanks Kaffer for some excellent firmware BTW!

The second LED is connected to display data line. When an LCD/OLED is connected this means it is apparently always on and functions as a kind of power LED. But it's pretty pointless for indication purposes and I would only route it through if you really want a red light on the front of your Gotek

BarryB · 12 January 2018, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaffer

Is the LCD connected to 5v power (not 3v)? If connected to less than 5v then display contrast is very poor.

The backpack has a bright red led lit so power is getting to it, just not the display. SDA, SCL and GND are plugged into the pins where the original LED was and the +5v tapped off the pin near the power connector, might have soldered pins on for that though!

Sinphaltimus · 13 January 2018, 17:53

OK, I have some questions because I think I am short changing myself on some features.

First I'm running flashfloppy v0.8.1a which I flashed over the Cortex.
Installed the OLED and the Rotary Push Button mods.

It works fine, I can traverse directories, load, eject, etc...

AFAI can tell, I'm running the config-less setup. That is to say I do not have anything but directories and ADFs on my USB drive.

But seeing chatter about configuration files to alter the display timeout among other things has me wondering if I am not taking full advantage of my GoTek drive.

Given my setup, what do I need to do to take better advantage of its capabilities?
Am I restricting myself with a config-less setup?

Can I have anything else given the mods that are in place and the fact that I went from Cortex to flashfloppy without any HxC involved?

I've read about some HxC config files and such that can be used, are they compatible with my setup? I mean, I don't need to load ADF files into "slots" like I did with cortex and I see no reason to ever have to do that the way I am using it now.

I'm just curious about what I can/should be doing with the OLED and Rotary mods that can enhance my experience a bit.

Supamax · 14 January 2018, 04:41

Perhaps I'm asking a stupid question:

if I connect to an Amiga an external Gotek unit as DF1 (with an appropriate cable and box), will I be able to use a Cyclone-like dongle and make an analog copy of protected original disks (with long tracks etc.)?
From DF0 (real floppy drive) to DF1 (Gotek, raw/extended adf).

Jope · 14 January 2018, 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

if I connect to an Amiga an external Gotek unit as DF1 (with an appropriate cable and box), will I be able to use a Cyclone-like dongle and make an analog copy of protected original disks (with long tracks etc.)?
From DF0 (real floppy drive) to DF1 (Gotek, raw/extended adf).

That won't work with any of the current gotek firmwares. The data would have to be stored in some kind of raw format, but that isn't implemented.

It would probably be best to have some kind of special bus sniffing mode in the gotek, combined with some special software on the Amiga to run the drive. Then again, it could be possible to make an image reading firmware for the gotek and connect the drives together directly, forgoing a host computer..

BarryB · 14 January 2018, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

How reliable are the 1602A LCD's?

I've just connected my FF back up to my A500 to test an ADF and the display is now blank? Was working fine a few months ago, all I've done is unplug the floppy/power and put it to one side and now reconnected it and the display is blank, still has same config on the USB stick and same firmware? Tried adjusting the pot on the backpack but can see a faint display when full up but that's all!!

Have now found the problem, the jumper on the LED pins on the backpack was 'missing' so stopped the backlight working, putting a jumper on those 2 pins gets it working again

Supamax · 14 January 2018, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

That won't work with any of the current gotek firmwares. The data would have to be stored in some kind of raw format, but that isn't implemented.

It would probably be best to have some kind of special bus sniffing mode in the gotek, combined with some special software on the Amiga to run the drive. Then again, it could be possible to make an image reading firmware for the gotek and connect the drives together directly, forgoing a host computer..

I thought that the Gotek was read/write compatible with some raw formats (i.e. hfe)...

Jope · 15 January 2018, 06:33

It can write HFE? Then it might be able to get it on par with any other unanalysed raw dump of a protected floppy. Means some protections will work, some won't.

Supamax · 15 January 2018, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

It can write HFE?

I'm not sure...

Is the .hfe format supported for writing too?

Keir · 16 January 2018, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

It can write HFE? Then it might be able to get it on par with any other unanalysed raw dump of a protected floppy. Means some protections will work, some won't.

Yes it supports write to HFE. This means it will support write of custom tracks, including long tracks, but it does not support variable-rate tracks (eg. Copylock, Speedlock).

Supamax · 17 January 2018, 06:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaffer

Yes it supports write to HFE. This means it will support write of custom tracks, including long tracks,

Wow, interesting!

Quote:

but it does not support variable-rate tracks (eg. Copylock, Speedlock).

Is this impossible to add, or could it be realized in a future firmware release?

Keir · 17 January 2018, 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Is this impossible to add, or could it be realized in a future firmware release?

Regular HFE does not support variable-rate tracks. HFEv3 format does, but supporting creation of such exotic tracks in real-time in the firmware is probably not going to happen... it would be a bunch of work for a very niche case.

Keir · 17 January 2018, 12:55

New release v0.9.6a
https://github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy/wiki/Downloads

- USB: Fix power-on initialisation for some USB sticks
- FAT: Write-protect image files marked with read-only attribute
- FAT: Ignore 'hidden' files and folders (eg. "System Volume Information")
- ST: Support 11-sector .ST images

solidcore · 17 January 2018, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaffer

New release v0.9.6a
https://github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy/wiki/Downloads

- USB: Fix power-on initialisation for some USB sticks
- FAT: Write-protect image files marked with read-only attribute
- ST: Support 11-sector .ST images

Fantastic I am glad you're starting to make it more ST compatible. I love this project

keep going.

Sinphaltimus · 17 January 2018, 21:01

Kaffer,

Besides these questions here:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=748

I have a few more questions, even tho the previous ones are still unanswered.

1. Is there anyway to get the GoTek to NOT show the "System Volume Information" folder? Yes, it's a windows hidden folder but it still shows up on the GoTek display.

2. When using the rotary to browse ADF files, if I take too long (just about a second or two) then the adf I'm looking at loads. Even if I eject it, the same behaviour happens if I pause too long on the next ADF. Would be nice if an ADF did not load at all unless the select button is pushed or if the time could be increased. If it's the only adf in the root upon power on (to boot to adf) would be an exception. Happens with the dir up (..) as well. I'll be browsing a directory and before I know it I'm looking at .. and then I'm up a directory level before I can dial away from it.

Are these things that can be adjust with a config file? (going back to my original list of questions and my concerns about my current setup).

01 January 2018, 22:45	#742
Sinphaltimus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cresco, PA, USA Age: 53 Posts: 1,126	It's the power LED. I pulled a knob off an old amplifier Last edited by Sinphaltimus; 01 January 2018 at 22:45. Reason: And then glued a boing ball to it.

14 January 2018, 04:41	#749
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Cyclone-like dongles Perhaps I'm asking a stupid question: if I connect to an Amiga an external Gotek unit as DF1 (with an appropriate cable and box), will I be able to use a Cyclone-like dongle and make an analog copy of protected original disks (with long tracks etc.)? From DF0 (real floppy drive) to DF1 (Gotek, raw/extended adf).

17 January 2018, 12:55	#758
Keir Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cambridge Posts: 682	New release v0.9.6a https://github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy/wiki/Downloads - USB: Fix power-on initialisation for some USB sticks - FAT: Write-protect image files marked with read-only attribute - FAT: Ignore 'hidden' files and folders (eg. "System Volume Information") - ST: Support 11-sector .ST images Last edited by Keir; 17 January 2018 at 21:43.

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01 January 2018, 20:34	#741
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,873	Sorry but I am gonna ask the dumb Qs I have been browsing the thread for... My Gotek has one LED and one hidden behind the panel. What does the 2nd one do and do I just make a hole and route it thru? Where can I get a decent knob for the rotary encoder, that fits and allows it to still be used to select (eBay link?). It looks a bit "urban" as a bare knob! Thanks Kaffer for some excellent firmware BTW!

02 January 2018, 18:29	#743
FREEMILK Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: North Bay, Ontario, Canada Posts: 67	I am doing up a few 3d print files to make a nice A1200 install i will share here once completed. Also has anyone thought about making a badge display, for example a nice display that fits exact where the badge is on A1200 then have the firmware display the model LOGO instead of putting the display to sleep.

04 January 2018, 17:09	#744
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,677	How reliable are the 1602A LCD's? I've just connected my FF back up to my A500 to test an ADF and the display is now blank? Was working fine a few months ago, all I've done is unplug the floppy/power and put it to one side and now reconnected it and the display is blank, still has same config on the USB stick and same firmware? Tried adjusting the pot on the backpack but can see a faint display when full up but that's all!!

13 January 2018, 17:53	#748
Sinphaltimus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cresco, PA, USA Age: 53 Posts: 1,126	OK, I have some questions because I think I am short changing myself on some features. First I'm running flashfloppy v0.8.1a which I flashed over the Cortex. Installed the OLED and the Rotary Push Button mods. It works fine, I can traverse directories, load, eject, etc... AFAI can tell, I'm running the config-less setup. That is to say I do not have anything but directories and ADFs on my USB drive. But seeing chatter about configuration files to alter the display timeout among other things has me wondering if I am not taking full advantage of my GoTek drive. Given my setup, what do I need to do to take better advantage of its capabilities? Am I restricting myself with a config-less setup? Can I have anything else given the mods that are in place and the fact that I went from Cortex to flashfloppy without any HxC involved? I've read about some HxC config files and such that can be used, are they compatible with my setup? I mean, I don't need to load ADF files into "slots" like I did with cortex and I see no reason to ever have to do that the way I am using it now. I'm just curious about what I can/should be doing with the OLED and Rotary mods that can enhance my experience a bit.

15 January 2018, 06:33	#753
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	It can write HFE? Then it might be able to get it on par with any other unanalysed raw dump of a protected floppy. Means some protections will work, some won't.

17 January 2018, 21:01	#760
Sinphaltimus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cresco, PA, USA Age: 53 Posts: 1,126	Kaffer, Besides these questions here: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=748 I have a few more questions, even tho the previous ones are still unanswered. 1. Is there anyway to get the GoTek to NOT show the "System Volume Information" folder? Yes, it's a windows hidden folder but it still shows up on the GoTek display. 2. When using the rotary to browse ADF files, if I take too long (just about a second or two) then the adf I'm looking at loads. Even if I eject it, the same behaviour happens if I pause too long on the next ADF. Would be nice if an ADF did not load at all unless the select button is pushed or if the time could be increased. If it's the only adf in the root upon power on (to boot to adf) would be an exception. Happens with the dir up (..) as well. I'll be browsing a directory and before I know it I'm looking at .. and then I'm up a directory level before I can dial away from it. Are these things that can be adjust with a config file? (going back to my original list of questions and my concerns about my current setup).

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