Some WHDLOAD generic

[RoC]

Originally Posted by StingRay

Simply add these commands in the source and use _LVOExecute (dos.library) to run them. This requires the "run" command, copy it to the "c" directory if it isn't already there.

; a6: DOSBase
    pea    cmd_setmap(pc)
    ....

cmd_setmap    dc.b    "setmap oks",0

Great Stingray, this does help

It has been eons since I compiled an ASM, so I have downloaded the WHDLoad dev pack to perform the tests to make it work. I will let you know if I manage to do so.

If you have suggesstions for a "WHDLoad-newbie" like me, happy to hear. But what you suggested is already helpful.

[RoC]

Originally Posted by DamienD

That's not true

...just follow these instructions: How do I get access to The Zone?

Needless to say that this worked. Thanks Damien!

I realised only now that zone and upload to the Turran site are two different things

[Aladin]

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[mth75]

Hi Aladin, I just want to thank you for your work, I'm having lots of fun with your packages. I even started to create some of my own, which i'm happy to send to you for uploading (i don't have "zone" access.

May I request the English version of Journey to the centre of the Earth in the meantime?

Thx mate!

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by mth75

i don't have "zone" access.

How do I get access to The Zone?

Originally Posted by mth75

May I request the English version of Journey to the centre of the Earth in the meantime?

What's wrong with the official WHDLoad slave?

See these:

a) Viaje al centro de la tierra
b) Viaje Al Centro De La Tierra

[Aladin]

@DamienD

ViajeAlCentroDeLaTierra_v1.2_Es.lha (retroplay) is multilingual (Spanish, English, French)
(it should be renamed _M3)
http://hol.abime.net/3607

VoyageCentreTerreFR-WHDL.lha
JourneyCenterEarth-WHDL.lha
http://hol.abime.net/811

it's not the same game

@mth75
Thanks, and yes uploading your packages too please
for "Journey To The Center Of The Earth" at the first launch of one of these games, be patient

[Minuous]

I'm not sure why a slave exists for Worm Wars, the game has no known compatibility issues that would require use of WHDLoad.

[Aladin]

@Minuous
yes for this game, whdload brings nothing special

[mth75]

@Aladin And thx for uploading the En version of Journey.
@DamianD , I ment the other "Journey to..", but thx for pointing the spanish one out!

[IvanEBC]

Guys - i have a question:
I use released games/demos WHDload from the WHDload.de webpage and i can't think of a single game or demo that doesn't work, maybe an odd one here or there.
And i have a collection of these generic ones too. Thanks for the hard work, its a big beautiful collection and makes life easier. Here's my issue.

On my A4000, a good percentage (I'd estimate 30% do not work and returns me to workbench with an error after a few seconds of black screen OR sometimes after title screens.
The error
Exception 'Access Fault' ($4008)
PC= $4FB748CC (Task 'Initial CLI', ExpMem $958CC)
Long Read from $FFFFEC
Different slaves give different numbers in line 2 and 3 but always has same result, no game loaded, few seconds of black screen. I can try all the different version too 31_1, 31_4 etc. By default i try 31_4 first and if it fails, if on the odd occasion there is one called "genericKick31" i have found that one has a greater chance of WORKING.

OK, my A4000 is not likely "very generic" and my feeling is the slave needs to be "adjusted or fixed" to match my A4000. Here's why i believe that.

If i go into the data directory of the whdload generic game, quite often, i can run the game and it runs fine.
If i move the game to my A1200, a machine that is very standard, the game works.

Seeing ExpMem in the error, i tried removing some of the memory in my system and it didn't help. I have a BigRamPlus (256meg), and i have the Apollo 4060 with 128Meg on board on top of the Amigas 16meg on board.

But i feel the issue may arise from the VA2000 (that i believe has 32meg built in as well).

Hope it is okay to post here, let me know if not and i'll start up a new thread.

[Aladin]

@IvanEBC
try with novbrmove tooltype
Perhaps mmu problem (try with nommu tooltype)
Have you tried to boot with a minimal original wb 3.1 with just whdload installed?

[IvanEBC]

Originally Posted by Aladin

@IvanEBC
try with novbrmove tooltype
Perhaps mmu problem (try with nommu tooltype)
Have you tried to boot with a minimal original wb 3.1 with just whdload installed?

I'll try those other tooltypes
No to the other question as mimial 3.1 would mean stripping the machine back and doing a fresh 3.1 install, IE: Alot of work when that's pretty much my A1200 which is. Also the games generally work if i go to the effort of assigns etc, its really is just the slave. Will report on the other tests with nommu and novbrmove


Thanks

[IvanEBC]

Originally Posted by Aladin

@IvanEBC
try with novbrmove tooltype
Perhaps mmu problem (try with nommu tooltype)
Have you tried to boot with a minimal original wb 3.1 with just whdload installed?

OK, test game - Artillerus 2
If i use NOVBRMOVE - the game will work, and i can get into the game now - YAY - Excellent - and thank you.


I noticed once in game, the F10 key didn't quit (tried it on the A1200 and it didn't work either - so maybe a bug?)
So i tried Evil Insects - and the quit key didn't work there either?
So i tried Rome - and the quit key DID work. So new random issue - all these use the NOVBRMOVE tooltype to get working and previously didn't.



If i use the NOMMU tooltype - this causes WHDLOAD to throw up some warning about MMU is putting some stuff into fast memory and i should use a different 040/060 library and this application likely won't work, so i click ignore and it DOES work, but if i leave this tooltype ON - and i launch from igame (i'm a fan of this front end) then it won't load up at all, minor gripe for now.

[Aladin]

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[IvanEBC]

Originally Posted by Aladin

novbrmove deactivates QuitKey most of the time, sorry for the inconvenience

There's a tooltype to change the quit key if i recall, would changing it from the default F10 solve this issue?

[StingRay]

Originally Posted by IvanEBC

There's a tooltype to change the quit key if i recall, would changing it from the default F10 solve this issue?

This will only work if the slave coder has patched the game to support the quitkey feature on 68000 machines too otherwise the tooltype will have no effect.

[RoC]

Like many people, I ended up dropping a 68010 where I need them. Found a bunch of these cpus for 3 euro each.