Unpublished Ocean France Amiga games - Page 9

Amiga1992 · 27 August 2003, 23:52

I will ask the guy from games that Weren't for the C64, if he wants to make a strategic alliance with us. I could knock up a site for this amiga force of game recoverers

I'll show him what we have done here with Liquid Kids, and wll keep you posted.

the wolf · 28 August 2003, 16:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Bernd
Well done again, The Wolf for your detective work! As for the plan joining forces to track down more people in order to find out more information on lost Amiga games or even release
them I can only agree. That project would have my full support! If it could be done in co-existence with that C64 site with the
same purpose it would even be better. Well, let's get together about this and find a coordinator who is going to make the next
steps.

Thanks, Bernd.
As I said some posts before, it will be fantastic to open a section of GTW for Amiga.
I always thought it could be possible, and, moreover, we can organize better the games (lost or unfinished) in order to recognize them from the others.
Well, it's not a priority, but I think it's a good idea to track down some infos about ALL these games, like the little story of Liquid Kids, discovered 12 years after...

Frootloop · 28 August 2003, 16:17

I *love* the idea of a Games That Weren't for the Amiga. Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was a GTW site for every other system too? They could all be united under the GTW umbrella and therefore gain more legitimacy among publishers and ex-devs. This could turn into a real treasure trove.

CodyJarrett · 28 August 2003, 16:40

Aren't you guys interested in the Collective Amiga Organisation idea anymore? The idea of it was to help with this sort of thing...

Frootloop · 28 August 2003, 16:59

I still like the idea, Cody. Perhaps GTW Amiga could be a section of the Amiga Organization.

7-Zark-7 · 28 August 2003, 17:02

Great job The Wolf & "anonymous sources"!

Hopefully,they'll see the thanks of a stunned retro community!

@Cody. I believe Bernd was already in favour of your proposal. As Akira mentioned,the creator of the C64 Games That Weren't site may be able to lend some ideas/contacts etc.,to help to that end,Akira's suggestion sounds a good idea,(maybe sharing any contacts found etc. Given the difficulty finding some of these old coders etc, the more info gathered the better,perhaps?).

Everyone sounded very positive to your main ideal already!

BTW-Didn't you make mention ages ago of maybe adding a "Games that Weren't" type section to APOV,or HOL or something?

CodyJarrett · 28 August 2003, 17:11

The HOL already includes unreleased games - select the 'License' as 'Unreleased' from the advanced view and do a search!

Amiga1992 · 28 August 2003, 17:35

My idea is not to propose a section of GTW that focuses on the Amiga, my idea was to use Cody's collective idea and make a site about unreleased games for the Amiga, and ask for Frank's (from GTW) collaboration. we would exchaneg links and support each other. Independent, but working together.

Cody, let's start it up mate. I'll do the page if it serves.

Bernd · 28 August 2003, 21:00

Quote:

Aren't you guys interested in the Collective Amiga Organisation idea anymore? The idea of it was to help with this sort of thing...

When I wrote about forming a project to join forces in order to rediscover lost Amiga programs I had not yet read the thread regarding Collective Amiga Organisation (CAO).

CAO seems to be a bit mighty compared with my original suggestion...

Once again - my plan is a platform that puts together any info (magazine snippets, information from certain people...)
regarding lost Amiga stuff (both games and apps) and tries to get in contact with developers to rerelease those titles. This project would be organized by a group of people with equal rights who use a non-public forum for information interchange.

I see no problem if it cooperated with the CAO. I understand that CAO has higher priority for most of you now, but feel free to get back to me if there is interest/time for my idea

Quote:

My idea is not to propose a section of GTW that focuses on the Amiga, my idea was to use
Cody's collective idea and make a site about unreleased games for the Amiga, and ask for
Frank's (from GTW) collaboration. we would exchaneg links and support each other

I am not sure - does this refer to the roof organization CAO or only to the unreleased games thing?

I am not certain - maybe everyone is speaking about something different.

Do you think that the project which deals with unreleased games and tracking down their developers to eventually rediscover them should exist as part of the aimed CAO (same layout) or independently (active member but partly different team with different site layout)?

Galahad/FLT · 28 August 2003, 21:31

Is in the zone... Do not spread please, because there are still some bugs to iron out like keyboard support and potential crashes later.

PRELOAD NOCACHE

Reports please

Amiga1992 · 29 August 2003, 01:25

I have put all the comments about the Liquid Kids install in the corresponding thread

Please post your reports over there

7-Zark-7 · 29 August 2003, 03:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Bernd
When I wrote about forming a project to join forces in order to rediscover lost Amiga programs I had not yet read the thread regarding Collective Amiga Organisation (CAO).

CAO seems to be a bit mighty compared with my original suggestion...

Once again - my plan is a platform that puts together any info (magazine snippets, information from certain people...)
regarding lost Amiga stuff (both games and apps) and tries to get in contact with developers to rerelease those titles. This project would be organized by a group of people with equal rights who use a non-public forum for information interchange.

I see no problem if it cooperated with the CAO. I understand that CAO has higher priority for most of you now, but feel free to get back to me if there is interest/time for my idea

I am not sure - does this refer to the roof organization CAO or only to the unreleased games thing?

I am not certain - maybe everyone is speaking about something different.

Do you think that the project which deals with unreleased games and tracking down their developers to eventually rediscover them should exist as part of the aimed CAO (same layout) or independently (active member but partly different team with different site layout)?

maybe make it a sub-branch of the larger branches of the "collective". For instance BTTR's goals aren't dissimilar to Frank Gasking's Games That Weren't site,(& more Amiga specific related), CAPS in trying to preserve the rare,sometimes unreleased gems like this? (Before they are indeed permanently lost.)

Just a thought,thats all!

Amiga1992 · 29 August 2003, 05:38

I think BBTR's focus is completely different to that of GTW. GTW only focuses on unreelased games. BTTR is something...big...

I will give some thought about this. I thought about something that is as much part of teh collective as the collective would be of the EAB

7-Zark-7 · 29 August 2003, 05:50

Yes,well I realize that,I didn't really word it right as I'd have liked to, but what I meant was in the current absence of anything like an Amiga GTW, the mechanics of BTTR,(finding long lost Amiga developers & getting their permission to put old classics up etc.), are quite similar.

S. Campbell · 30 August 2003, 06:05

Wow. Fantastic work by all concerned. Still nothing this end on Putty Squad, but with regard to other unreleased stuff, just a thought. If an author wanted to release a game but was scared of getting in trouble with the likes of Taito, they could perfectly legally send a copy of the game to a magazine journalist, say one who specialised in emulation, for a story on "the great games that didn't get released" or something.

If it was to accidentally be leaked from there to a small group of users of a dead computer, well, the author wouldn't have done anything wrong in law, so he wouldn't be able to be sued. And the journalist, well, he'd probably be prepared to take the risk.

Just some aimless hypothetical pondering, there.

Amiga1992 · 30 August 2003, 06:54

I like this hypothesis

If you have any information on games that didn't get released (screenshots, reviews, *cough*diskswithunreleasedgames*cough*, anything) it would be most helpful for the project I am just starting, Amiga Games That Weren't. I would dearly apreciate your help

Amiga1992 · 30 August 2003, 17:31

Wolf found out that you have to reach the leftmost edge of the screen for the cheat to work.

Twistin'Ghost · 31 August 2003, 03:36

So, how long before someone reposts this game that I missed? Anyone?

BippyM · 31 August 2003, 05:42

done

Twistin'Ghost · 31 August 2003, 06:48

Quote:

Originally posted by bippym
done

Thanks, my friend. You are a star!

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27 August 2003, 23:52	#161
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I will ask the guy from games that Weren't for the C64, if he wants to make a strategic alliance with us. I could knock up a site for this amiga force of game recoverers I'll show him what we have done here with Liquid Kids, and wll keep you posted.

28 August 2003, 16:17	#163
Frootloop Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada, Eh Posts: 167	I love the idea of a Games That Weren't for the Amiga. Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was a GTW site for every other system too? They could all be united under the GTW umbrella and therefore gain more legitimacy among publishers and ex-devs. This could turn into a real treasure trove.

28 August 2003, 16:40	#164
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Aren't you guys interested in the Collective Amiga Organisation idea anymore? The idea of it was to help with this sort of thing...

28 August 2003, 16:59	#165
Frootloop Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada, Eh Posts: 167	I still like the idea, Cody. Perhaps GTW Amiga could be a section of the Amiga Organization.

28 August 2003, 17:02	#166
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	Great job The Wolf & "anonymous sources"! Hopefully,they'll see the thanks of a stunned retro community! @Cody. I believe Bernd was already in favour of your proposal. As Akira mentioned,the creator of the C64 Games That Weren't site may be able to lend some ideas/contacts etc.,to help to that end,Akira's suggestion sounds a good idea,(maybe sharing any contacts found etc. Given the difficulty finding some of these old coders etc, the more info gathered the better,perhaps?). Everyone sounded very positive to your main ideal already! BTW-Didn't you make mention ages ago of maybe adding a "Games that Weren't" type section to APOV,or HOL or something?

28 August 2003, 17:11	#167
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	The HOL already includes unreleased games - select the 'License' as 'Unreleased' from the advanced view and do a search!

28 August 2003, 17:35	#168
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	My idea is not to propose a section of GTW that focuses on the Amiga, my idea was to use Cody's collective idea and make a site about unreleased games for the Amiga, and ask for Frank's (from GTW) collaboration. we would exchaneg links and support each other. Independent, but working together. Cody, let's start it up mate. I'll do the page if it serves.

29 August 2003, 01:25	#171
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I have put all the comments about the Liquid Kids install in the corresponding thread Please post your reports over there

29 August 2003, 05:38	#173
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I think BBTR's focus is completely different to that of GTW. GTW only focuses on unreelased games. BTTR is something...big... I will give some thought about this. I thought about something that is as much part of teh collective as the collective would be of the EAB

29 August 2003, 05:50	#174
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	Yes,well I realize that,I didn't really word it right as I'd have liked to, but what I meant was in the current absence of anything like an Amiga GTW, the mechanics of BTTR,(finding long lost Amiga developers & getting their permission to put old classics up etc.), are quite similar.

30 August 2003, 06:05	#175
S. Campbell Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Left a bit/ Fire! Posts: 325	Wow. Fantastic work by all concerned. Still nothing this end on Putty Squad, but with regard to other unreleased stuff, just a thought. If an author wanted to release a game but was scared of getting in trouble with the likes of Taito, they could perfectly legally send a copy of the game to a magazine journalist, say one who specialised in emulation, for a story on "the great games that didn't get released" or something. If it was to accidentally be leaked from there to a small group of users of a dead computer, well, the author wouldn't have done anything wrong in law, so he wouldn't be able to be sued. And the journalist, well, he'd probably be prepared to take the risk. Just some aimless hypothetical pondering, there.

30 August 2003, 06:54	#176
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I like this hypothesis If you have any information on games that didn't get released (screenshots, reviews, coughdiskswithunreleasedgamescough, anything) it would be most helpful for the project I am just starting, Amiga Games That Weren't. I would dearly apreciate your help

30 August 2003, 17:31	#177
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Wolf found out that you have to reach the leftmost edge of the screen for the cheat to work.

31 August 2003, 03:36	#178
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	So, how long before someone reposts this game that I missed? Anyone?

31 August 2003, 05:42	#179
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	done

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