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Old 06 November 2018, 20:36   #361
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OK, works now . 500GB in Amiga 500

Not reliable at higher speed tho.

Is there anything I could do to make it more reliabe?
Increase buffer or change block size (I use 4k) in 5400rpm 2.5" disk.
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Old 06 November 2018, 22:59   #362
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I’ve always used the default block size and put the buffers at about 200 on my machines that have plenty of memory. It’s nice and fast as well as being very reliable.
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Old 07 November 2018, 11:12   #363
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Hi Toni, just upgraded to final 3.1 and getting the dreaded Wrongdirblock error again

I put the cf on my PC and tried it in Winuae and its fine so it only appears on real Amiga Hardware( Mine is a CD32)

I down graded to the previous PFS3 aio final 3,1 and it was fine, any idea`s ?

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Old 07 November 2018, 11:36   #364
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Hi Toni, just upgraded to final 3.1 and getting the dreaded Wrongdirblock error again
Did the pfsdoctor run successfully through before upgrading?
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Did the pfsdoctor run successfully through before upgrading?
did not run PFS doctor, I have never had a problem with this wrongdirblock error till this final 3.1 ver19.2 like i said downgraded to previous vers and no problem
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Old 07 November 2018, 17:02   #366
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Not enough information. HDReport output and hardware specs (which kind of CD32 HD controller). You can use old pfs3aio version.

Just mounting it in UAE does not really tell much except that filesystem works and it is some kind of device conflict. Did you do enough testing to confirm it was just some random glitch/bad connection etc?
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Not enough information. HDReport output and hardware specs (which kind of CD32 HD controller). You can use old pfs3aio version.

Just mounting it in UAE does not really tell much except that filesystem works and it is some kind of device conflict. Did you do enough testing to confirm it was just some random glitch/bad connection etc?
Sorry Toni Ignore it, I tried another Cf adapter and it was fine so it was just a bad CF to IDE adapter, sorry for the confusion
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Old 07 November 2018, 19:44   #368
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Is there size limit of Hard Disk?

500GB works but 750GB crash WinUAE.
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No. Not enough information (log and config) and too old version (no log and config embedded dump file).

Crash looks more like CD related, do not use complex configurations when testing something specific.
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Old 23 November 2018, 00:05   #370
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PFS3AIO 3.1 is now available from Aminet.

http://aminet.net/disk/misc/pfs3aio.lha

3.1
---

- TD64 support check false negative fixed, v3.0 rejected many TD64 capable
HD controllers.
- Always re-execute access mode test when removable drive is inserted
and before formatting.
- Set default stack size back to original default of 4000 bytes from old
AROS compiled value of 6000. Saves stackswap 6k of RAM.
- Always execute TD_MOTOR off after idle delay period, some HD controllers
only switch off activity led when TD_MOTOR off is executed.
- Previous version's (3.0) OS 3.1.4 SCSIDIRECT support was very broken and
corrupts the partition. Reformat required if used with v3.0!
- Fixed out of bounds buffer read when writing file to disk that does not
fill last disk block completely. It was harmless but can for example
cause MuGuardianAngel hits. (Original PFS3 bug/optimization)
- Return faked (larger than real blocksize) InfoData structure block size
value if drive is larger than 16G as a workaround for programs
(including WB) that calculate in use percentage using 32-bit
"in use * 100 / total" formula where multiplication overflows if size
is about 20G or larger with 512 block size.
- Removed Direct SCSI scsi_Actual validation after read or write operation.
Some SCSI controllers don't update it properly, causing pfs3aio to show
disk read or write error requester. Was added in 3.0.
- Fixed softlinks, they have never worked previously. (Piru)

26.5.2018 WARNING: Do not use OS 3.1.4 Beta HDToolBox Direct SCSI option with 3.0. It causes pfs3aio v3.0 to create incompatible partition geometry with all other pfs3(aio) versions. Fixed in v3.1.

3.0
---

- Bug fixes, including finally fixed nasty bug causing Wrong Index Block ID
(and others) if partition was >=5G and lots of small files were created
very quickly, for example unpacking archive with thousands of small files.
This bug has most likely existed since PFS3 introduced >=5G partition
support.
- Compiled with m68k optimized GCC 6
(https://github.com/bebbo/amigaos-cross-toolchain), 16k smaller than
previous pfs3aio.
- Some HD controllers modify MaxTransfer after filesystem has been
initialized, which was ignored by previous versions.
- Automatic max transfer limit is only enabled if scsi.device version is v36
or newer and older than v50.
- Limit Direct SCSI mode max transfer size to 65535 blocks (~32MB).
- Automatically attempt to increase number of buffers if all buffers are in
use and more buffers are required.
- Added support for new OS 3.1.4 filesystem mount flags. (SCSIDIRECT,
SUPERFLOPPY and DISABLENSD).
- Shows more detailed information in error requesters (access mode, start
block, end block, SCSI details if SCSI Direct)
- Includes unsupported and experimental >104G partition support. Shows
warning if enabled during formatting.
- ACTION_DIE (unmount) stability fix.
- Filename changed from pfs3_aio-handler to pfs3aio.

--

Includes all previous pfs3aio features:

- Full KS 1.x compatibility.
- 68000+ compatible.
- TD64, NSD and Direct SCSI supported and autodetected.
and more...

Souces available from https://github.com/tonioni/pfs3aio (and pfsdoctor)
Source tree also includes experimental >4G file size (48 bit file length field) support but it is not enabled in this version. Contact me if you want to test it.

>104G partition support and >4G file size support requires reformat and on-disk structures are not anymore compatible with old PFS3 or PFSDoctor versions. (http://www.winuae.net/files/b/pfsdoc...perimental.zip Note: command line only, no GUI like in official pfsdoctor)

Hey Toni,


This is so awesome. Thanks for continuing to work on my fave AMIGA FS.
I have 2 suggestions.

- Large disk formats 100+ GB or TB could be PFS4 (not compatible with 3,2,1) remove the legacy crap in favour of new FS ability? People can run both side by side if required?
- Got a donation link? I can't prograsm but i'd like to contribute to it's further enhancement, whatever you guys do with it in the future.
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- Got a donation link? I can't prograsm but i'd like to contribute to it's further enhancement, whatever you guys do with it in the future.
You can find a "Donate" button on the WinUAE website
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Old 23 November 2018, 14:43   #372
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- Large disk formats 100+ GB or TB could be PFS4 (not compatible with 3,2,1) remove the legacy crap in favour of new FS ability? People can run both side by side if required?
There is not much "legacy crap". >104G partition support is very simple and clean extension, mainly internal block size is 2x or 4x larger, structures are exact same.

Main problem: I am not interested in testing filesystems which means it stays "experimental" until someone really tests it. Fir example there is still possibility >1T partition may have 32 bit signed/unsigned problems somewhere. Only way to confirm is to fill the partition 100%, then read all files and check that everything is bit-by-bit same.

Someone needs to write this test utility..
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You can find a "Donate" button on the WinUAE website
I'm already a WinUAE donator. Really wanted to give incentive to something else I also really appreciate.
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Old 04 December 2018, 22:52   #374
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There is not much "legacy crap". >104G partition support is very simple and clean extension, mainly internal block size is 2x or 4x larger, structures are exact same.

Main problem: I am not interested in testing filesystems which means it stays "experimental" until someone really tests it. Fir example there is still possibility >1T partition may have 32 bit signed/unsigned problems somewhere. Only way to confirm is to fill the partition 100%, then read all files and check that everything is bit-by-bit same.

Someone needs to write this test utility..

I understand. Like a bunch of really large movie files 100 GB each, with an RC5 hash on them, confirm the hash after copy to another format like NTFS?
I'm not a programmer, unfortunately. I could do the hash test with TB sized drives under WinUAE ?

I do appreciate the effort you put into this though Toni and I am a returning customer of WinUAE via Cloanto (What I use to this day due to slow, not well supported older real hardware)


Just would like to thank you publicly for all your incredible efforts and time into the Amiga OS and community and towards it's continued use.
I still continue to enjoy and use AMIGA because of your efforts.


I'll go upgrade to 4x. Emulator. About time I updated anyway.



Thanks again.

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I'm already a WinUAE donator. Really wanted to give incentive to something else I also really appreciate.
Toni is the author of PFS3AIO v3.1 Final so he'll still get the money when donating via the WinUAE website
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Old 28 February 2019, 08:01   #376
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Sometimes, when I delete a directory on a PFS Partition (I use the latest PFS3AIO) it happens that a dir is not fully deleted. "Not deleted: object in use".

However, if I issue the same command for a few times, at last, everything is deleted:


Excerpt from the holy scrolls of bladecgn, 2nd Millenium:
Code:
6.System39:Multi/Batch/BackupSystem - 0> delete sys:Personal.bak all
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/WBstartup  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/WBstartup.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Wireless.prefs  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/ReadMe  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/ReadMe.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Karsten.A4kSpectrum.i
nfo  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Karsten.A4kSpectrum  
Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom.Piccola.info  Del
eted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom.Piccola  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom2.Piccola.info  De
leted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom2.Piccola  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom.Archaea.info  Del
eted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom.Archaea  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom2.A4kSpectrum.info
  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom2.A4kSpectrum  Del
eted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom2.Nova.info  Delet
ed
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom2.Nova  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom2.Archaea.info  De
leted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom2.Archaea  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.TEMPLATE.TEMPLATE.inf
o  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.TEMPLATE.TEMPLATE  De
leted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom.Nova.info  Delete
d
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup/M-S.Dom.Nova  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup  Not Deleted: object is i
n use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineConfig.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineConfig/ReadMe  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineConfig/ReadMe.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineConfig/M-C.TEMPLATE.TEMPLATE.info
  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineConfig/M-C.TEMPLATE.TEMPLATE  Del
eted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineConfig  Not Deleted: object is in
 use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence/ReadMe  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence/ReadMe.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence/D-S.TEMPLATE  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence/D-S.TEMPLATE.info  Delete
d
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence/D-S.Dom2  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence/D-S.Dom2.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence/D-S.Dom.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence/D-S.Dom  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence  Not Deleted: object is i
n use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/ReadMe.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/ReadMe  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/UserName  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase/SYS/Prefs/Env-Archive  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase/SYS/Prefs  Not Deleted: object is in 
use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase/SYS  Not Deleted: directory not empty
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase  Not Deleted: directory not empty
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/ReadMe.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/ReadMe  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Wireless.prefs.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/UserName.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Samba/ReadMe.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Samba/ReadMe  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Samba/Samba_Template.BAT.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Samba/Samba_Template.BAT  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Samba/Samba_Template_.BAT.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Samba/Samba_Template_.BAT  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Samba  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Samba.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti.info  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak  Not Deleted: directory not empty
6.System39:Multi/Batch/BackupSystem - 20> delete sys:Personal.bak all
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineStartup  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/MachineConfig  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config/DetectSequence  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase/SYS/Prefs  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase/SYS  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase  Not Deleted: directory not empty
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Samba  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal  Not Deleted: directory not empty
sys:Personal.bak  Not Deleted: directory not empty
6.System39:Multi/Batch/BackupSystem - 20> delete sys:Personal.bak all
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/Config  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase/SYS  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal  Not Deleted: directory not empty
sys:Personal.bak  Not Deleted: directory not empty
6.System39:Multi/Batch/BackupSystem - 20> delete sys:Personal.bak all
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti/FilesBase  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti  Not Deleted: object is in use
sys:Personal.bak/Personal  Not Deleted: directory not empty
sys:Personal.bak  Not Deleted: directory not empty
6.System39:Multi/Batch/BackupSystem - 20> delete sys:Personal.bak all
sys:Personal.bak/Personal/PersonalMulti  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak/Personal  Deleted
sys:Personal.bak  Deleted
6.System39:Multi/Batch/BackupSystem - 0> delete sys:Personal.bak all
No file to delete
Thomas, our filesystem and scsi.device expert, hinted over at the German A1k forum this seems to occur quite often on PFS3 while deleting larger directories.

He guesses internally something seems to run asynchronically, holding the dir that is beeing deleted, thus preventing the dir itself to be deleted.

I would kindly ask if you could look into that, please.

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hey! the same thing happens to me too! (when i'm updating my Whdload collection..) but I did not suspect that it is PFSAIO who is the reason ... to monitor ...
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It probably is PFS3 original "feature". Question that needs an answer: does it only happen if DELDIR is enabled.
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DELDIR was enabled on all my partitions.. I just disabled everything...

setdeldir HD0: 0
setdeldir HD2: 0
setdeldir HD3: 0
setdeldir HD4: 0

Let's see what will change to use ...
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Also here Deldir was enabled. I disabled it to see if it works now. This might take some time though, as the error occurs only while deleting files and only sometimes.

Nonetheless, even if this helps it still seems to be an ancient pfs3 bug. Woukld be great if this could be fixed.

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