Workbench 3.0 install adf

ItsTheSmell · 18 October 2019, 10:07

Im trying to install WB3.0 on a CF card and I cannot find the install disc. Does WB3 have one and if so where can I get it? I have all the other discs I only need the install one.

Daedalus · 18 October 2019, 10:09

Workbench 3.0 does indeed have an install disk, but it was only shipped with machines that had a hard drive. Machines that didn't have a hard drive were missing that disk.

I'm sure an image can be found very easily with some cursory Googling that you could write to a blank disk.

ItsTheSmell · 18 October 2019, 10:37

I see!
I tried my favourite search engine but it didn't return a valid 3.0 add. 1.3 an 3.1 are easy to find. I could use bloodwych' install but that says satanic dreams in the top bar. Satan's going nowhere near my baby! An I'm not even religious.

lesta_smsc · 18 October 2019, 11:46

This is a nice site for the checksum verification to know you've found the correct file:

http://amiga.workbench.free.fr/workbench.php

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

Daedalus · 18 October 2019, 12:04

Hmmm, well if you can't find the 3.0 one, the drive partitioning and formatting part of the setup at least can be done with the 3.1 install disk. After that, if you wanted you could manually install 3.0 on a bootable partition by copying the contents of the 5 disks to their appropriate locations.

ItsTheSmell · 18 October 2019, 12:08

How would i know where the locations are?

Daedalus · 18 October 2019, 12:47

Most files are copied to the same locations as they are on the original disks, so the Workbench disk contents can be copied pretty much directly to the hard drive. Don't forget to copy all files, not just those with an icon. From the Extras disk it's the same story - copy the files into the drawers corresponding to the ones they're in on the disk, Tools to Tools, Utilities to Utilities, etc. Make three new drawers called Fonts, Locale and Storage, and copy the contents of those disks to their respective drawers. Once that's done, move any desired drivers from the drawers in Storage to the equivalent drawer in Devs. Finally, edit S:Startup-sequence to add the assign needed for Locale (there should already be a bunch of Assign lines somewhere around the middle of the script - add it *before* the one that mentions HELP: ) :

Assign >NIL: Locale: SYS:Locale

From memory, that should be it, though it's possible I've forgotten something...

malko · 18 October 2019, 13:20

I found something with the search engine. Not tested. Will be up top you. You've got a PM

ItsTheSmell · 18 October 2019, 14:03

Thanks for all the help. WB3.0 is now installed.

Daedalus, the more I learn about the Amiga OS the more I love it. Pisses all over windows, it makes me wonder if MS did it their way to baffle people into thinking MS are geniuses (or should that be geniei - plural).

lesta_smsc · 18 October 2019, 14:25

Glad you're up and running.

BTW why 3.0 and not 3.1?

ItsTheSmell · 18 October 2019, 14:58

Its a new machine and its come with ks 3.0 ROMs. I've got another with 3.1 an I'm not gonna upgrade this one, right now anyway.

lesta_smsc · 18 October 2019, 15:00

I thought WB 3.1 would work on 3.0?... nonetheless, I'm not familiar with differences.

ItsTheSmell · 18 October 2019, 15:02

I had 3.1 on the cf but it would hang on startup. Formatted and installed 3.0 and it boots without issue.

lesta_smsc · 18 October 2019, 15:05

Handy to know, thank you. Since I have A1200 with KS 3.0. Although I now have my KS 3.1.4 so soon I'll upgrade it

ItsTheSmell · 18 October 2019, 15:07

Yeah actually I remember doing that once. Computers ay

AMIGASYSTEM · 18 October 2019, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

I thought WB 3.1 would work on 3.0?... nonetheless, I'm not familiar with differences.

You had thought well, OS 3.1 can be installed safely on KicStart 3.0, OS 3.1 is a kind of update and bugfix of OS 3.0.

Hewitson · 19 October 2019, 07:50

I can confirm from experience that 3.1 works fine on 3.0 roms. Is it an ideal setup? No, but it does work.

ItsTheSmell · 19 October 2019, 10:10

So if I upgrade it I'll be OK?

demolition · 19 October 2019, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsTheSmell

So if I upgrade it I'll be OK?

WB3.1 runs fine on KS3.0. If it hangs on startup then WB is either not installed properly or some other software is causing it to hang.
KS3.1 contains a few useful fixes over 3.0 so it is generally recommended to upgrade although you might as well go for 3.1.4.

lesta_smsc · 19 October 2019, 11:50

BTW I believe there was a small update for KS 3.1.4? I'm just wondering as I've got my 3.1.4 and not read some where regarding update of it to 3.1.4.1. May be I am mistaken.

KS 3.1.4 also came with updated set of Workbench.

18 October 2019, 10:07	#1
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	Workbench 3.0 install adf Im trying to install WB3.0 on a CF card and I cannot find the install disc. Does WB3 have one and if so where can I get it? I have all the other discs I only need the install one.

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18 October 2019, 10:09	#2
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Workbench 3.0 does indeed have an install disk, but it was only shipped with machines that had a hard drive. Machines that didn't have a hard drive were missing that disk. I'm sure an image can be found very easily with some cursory Googling that you could write to a blank disk.

18 October 2019, 10:37	#3
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	I see! I tried my favourite search engine but it didn't return a valid 3.0 add. 1.3 an 3.1 are easy to find. I could use bloodwych' install but that says satanic dreams in the top bar. Satan's going nowhere near my baby! An I'm not even religious.

18 October 2019, 11:46	#4
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	This is a nice site for the checksum verification to know you've found the correct file: http://amiga.workbench.free.fr/workbench.php Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

18 October 2019, 12:04	#5
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Hmmm, well if you can't find the 3.0 one, the drive partitioning and formatting part of the setup at least can be done with the 3.1 install disk. After that, if you wanted you could manually install 3.0 on a bootable partition by copying the contents of the 5 disks to their appropriate locations.

18 October 2019, 12:08	#6
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	How would i know where the locations are?

18 October 2019, 12:47	#7
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Most files are copied to the same locations as they are on the original disks, so the Workbench disk contents can be copied pretty much directly to the hard drive. Don't forget to copy all files, not just those with an icon. From the Extras disk it's the same story - copy the files into the drawers corresponding to the ones they're in on the disk, Tools to Tools, Utilities to Utilities, etc. Make three new drawers called Fonts, Locale and Storage, and copy the contents of those disks to their respective drawers. Once that's done, move any desired drivers from the drawers in Storage to the equivalent drawer in Devs. Finally, edit S:Startup-sequence to add the assign needed for Locale (there should already be a bunch of Assign lines somewhere around the middle of the script - add it before the one that mentions HELP: ) : Assign >NIL: Locale: SYS:Locale From memory, that should be it, though it's possible I've forgotten something...

18 October 2019, 13:20	#8
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	I found something with the search engine. Not tested. Will be up top you. You've got a PM

18 October 2019, 14:03	#9
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	Thanks for all the help. WB3.0 is now installed. Daedalus, the more I learn about the Amiga OS the more I love it. Pisses all over windows, it makes me wonder if MS did it their way to baffle people into thinking MS are geniuses (or should that be geniei - plural).

18 October 2019, 14:25	#10
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Glad you're up and running. BTW why 3.0 and not 3.1?

18 October 2019, 14:58	#11
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	Its a new machine and its come with ks 3.0 ROMs. I've got another with 3.1 an I'm not gonna upgrade this one, right now anyway.

18 October 2019, 15:00	#12
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	I thought WB 3.1 would work on 3.0?... nonetheless, I'm not familiar with differences.

18 October 2019, 15:02	#13
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	I had 3.1 on the cf but it would hang on startup. Formatted and installed 3.0 and it boots without issue.

18 October 2019, 15:05	#14
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Handy to know, thank you. Since I have A1200 with KS 3.0. Although I now have my KS 3.1.4 so soon I'll upgrade it

18 October 2019, 15:07	#15
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	Yeah actually I remember doing that once. Computers ay

19 October 2019, 07:50	#17
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 41 Posts: 3,772	I can confirm from experience that 3.1 works fine on 3.0 roms. Is it an ideal setup? No, but it does work.

19 October 2019, 10:10	#18
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	So if I upgrade it I'll be OK?

19 October 2019, 11:50	#20
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	BTW I believe there was a small update for KS 3.1.4? I'm just wondering as I've got my 3.1.4 and not read some where regarding update of it to 3.1.4.1. May be I am mistaken. KS 3.1.4 also came with updated set of Workbench.

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