Music rippers and memory scans

onkelarie · 23 September 2015, 17:57

I tried the past years several times to rip music from memory or scan memory for raw audio, within winuae. However, until now without success. I only use a warm-reset when rebooting the running a500 configuration, but nope... no mods or raw samples found.

Is it possible with winuae or only on the real hardware?

Raislin77it · 23 September 2015, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by onkelarie

I tried the past years several times to rip music from memory or scan memory for raw audio, within winuae. However, until now without success. I only use a warm-reset when rebooting the running a500 configuration, but nope... no mods or raw samples found.

Is it possible with winuae or only on the real hardware?

it's possible directly from the winuae gui.

without resetting the "amiga", when you want to rip a module :

press F12 -> goto HOST/OUTPUT in the gui -> select prowizard or sample ripper -> enjoy

AMIGASYSTEM · 23 September 2015, 20:46

wanting, you could record music directly MP3, using one of many software audio recording for Windows.

onkelarie · 23 September 2015, 21:56

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Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

wanting, you could record music directly MP3, using one of many software audio recording for Windows.

It's more of an interest to revisit the route of ripping mods and audio by scanning the memory using Amiga utilities (ie. rippers for modules and for instance Audiomaster for raw memory scans)

Back in the day, it was possible to warm-reset the Amiga and rip a module from a game with certain rippers. I guess the warm-reset option in winUAE does empty the virtual memory?

EDIT:
Tonight I managed to rip the in-game module of WHDload Bloodmoney using the ExoticRipper just after closing the game back to WB. After a warm reset I couldn't be found anymore... So one step in the right direction for me

Mclane · 24 September 2015, 15:00

I used to love doing that sort of stuff with my 500 and my beloved Action replay, apart from training a game I went after the music first..

Frog · 24 September 2015, 19:36

There's another good ripper Xoxo ripper: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=72695
Anyway the best is to rip directly from the disk.
I wish you some good fun in the ripping mania

Foebane · 27 September 2015, 19:29

I don't bother with ripping, MODs or MP3s anymore. Now, when I want to hear a demo tune, I just fire up WinUAE with the appropriate ADF/DMS and enjoy! It's best, as I also get to see the visuals as well, as the groups intended.

I've turned my back on MP3s, I don't even rip from CDs anymore, just listen to the CDs directly.

-Acid- · 28 September 2015, 02:03

Pro Wizard is very good, you can load disk images directly into the program as well and it can find mods that way too.

rhester72 · 28 September 2015, 23:43

onkelarie, what method are you using to perform a warm reset? The 'keyboard reset' is warm, but the one from the F12 menu is actually cold.

Rodney

Mclane · 29 September 2015, 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foebane

I don't bother with ripping, MODs or MP3s anymore. Now, when I want to hear a demo tune, I just fire up WinUAE with the appropriate ADF/DMS and enjoy! It's best, as I also get to see the visuals as well, as the groups intended.

I've turned my back on MP3s, I don't even rip from CDs anymore, just listen to the CDs directly.

Totally agree these days, used to think it was all very clever ripping and making MP3's but now I want to hear /see it as its meant to be heard & seen.

Djemps · 01 October 2015, 00:41

As somebody who is endeavoring to remix Amiga tunes, my greatest interest is finding ways to separate game tracks into their four individual channels.

I can accomplish this fairly well if the track exists in a MOD format. But I've had no luck ripping sound channels from 'exotic' formats. And, sadly, almost all the best Amiga game soundtracks exist in exotic form: Shadowbox the Beast, Turrican II, etc...

Foebane · 01 October 2015, 16:43

Yeah, cos they don't want you ripping them, Djemps!

Djemps · 02 October 2015, 03:29

Mclane · 02 October 2015, 09:05

Lol...

trackah123 · 07 October 2015, 07:23

Heh, i remember i used ExoticRipper back in the old days, got some modfiles back then. or when it saved a corrupt modfile your Protracker or whatever would crash badly

Foebane · 07 October 2015, 13:55

Speaking of mods that can't be ripped, I wonder why the 100+ mod files on two disks that make up Mahoney & Kaktus' His Master's Noise cannot be ripped? These mods vary from average to high quality, yet they fit on just two disks. My guess is that the samples are kept separate from the tracker data, ie. not mod files.

trackah123 · 08 October 2015, 00:17

@Foebane

i did find something on the end of Disk 2, its assembly code (you can look with any text or hex-editor).

I did manage to rip a song. but you have to actually play the song first, then press F12 and use Pro-Wizard.. it found a startrekker module and some pro-whatever module.

I was able to play both modules with EaglePlayer tho 1 sounded like it had the wrong samples.

Foebane · 08 October 2015, 08:44

Thanks, but I'm in the habit of listening to music "live", as it were, these days. The only problem is that with this musicdisk, there's a minute to wait between each song when loading. I was hoping I could use it on an A3000 or KS 3.1 config, but no.

23 September 2015, 17:57	#1
onkelarie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Spijkenisse / the Netherlands Age: 54 Posts: 525	Music rippers and memory scans I tried the past years several times to rip music from memory or scan memory for raw audio, within winuae. However, until now without success. I only use a warm-reset when rebooting the running a500 configuration, but nope... no mods or raw samples found. Is it possible with winuae or only on the real hardware?

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23 September 2015, 20:46	#3
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	wanting, you could record music directly MP3, using one of many software audio recording for Windows.

24 September 2015, 15:00	#5
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	I used to love doing that sort of stuff with my 500 and my beloved Action replay, apart from training a game I went after the music first..

24 September 2015, 19:36	#6
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	There's another good ripper Xoxo ripper: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=72695 Anyway the best is to rip directly from the disk. I wish you some good fun in the ripping mania

27 September 2015, 19:29	#7
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	I don't bother with ripping, MODs or MP3s anymore. Now, when I want to hear a demo tune, I just fire up WinUAE with the appropriate ADF/DMS and enjoy! It's best, as I also get to see the visuals as well, as the groups intended. I've turned my back on MP3s, I don't even rip from CDs anymore, just listen to the CDs directly.

28 September 2015, 02:03	#8
-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	Pro Wizard is very good, you can load disk images directly into the program as well and it can find mods that way too.

28 September 2015, 23:43	#9
rhester72 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York / USA Posts: 360	onkelarie, what method are you using to perform a warm reset? The 'keyboard reset' is warm, but the one from the F12 menu is actually cold. Rodney

01 October 2015, 00:41	#11
Djemps Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Rochester, NY USA Posts: 36	As somebody who is endeavoring to remix Amiga tunes, my greatest interest is finding ways to separate game tracks into their four individual channels. I can accomplish this fairly well if the track exists in a MOD format. But I've had no luck ripping sound channels from 'exotic' formats. And, sadly, almost all the best Amiga game soundtracks exist in exotic form: Shadowbox the Beast, Turrican II, etc...

01 October 2015, 16:43	#12
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	Yeah, cos they don't want you ripping them, Djemps!

02 October 2015, 03:29	#13
Djemps Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Rochester, NY USA Posts: 36

02 October 2015, 09:05	#14
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	Lol...

07 October 2015, 07:23	#15
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	Heh, i remember i used ExoticRipper back in the old days, got some modfiles back then. or when it saved a corrupt modfile your Protracker or whatever would crash badly

07 October 2015, 13:55	#16
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	Speaking of mods that can't be ripped, I wonder why the 100+ mod files on two disks that make up Mahoney & Kaktus' His Master's Noise cannot be ripped? These mods vary from average to high quality, yet they fit on just two disks. My guess is that the samples are kept separate from the tracker data, ie. not mod files.

08 October 2015, 00:17	#17
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	@Foebane i did find something on the end of Disk 2, its assembly code (you can look with any text or hex-editor). I did manage to rip a song. but you have to actually play the song first, then press F12 and use Pro-Wizard.. it found a startrekker module and some pro-whatever module. I was able to play both modules with EaglePlayer tho 1 sounded like it had the wrong samples.

08 October 2015, 08:44	#18
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	Thanks, but I'm in the habit of listening to music "live", as it were, these days. The only problem is that with this musicdisk, there's a minute to wait between each song when loading. I was hoping I could use it on an A3000 or KS 3.1 config, but no.

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