The First Person Shooter frame rate tolerance poll...

[PowerPie5000]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

I really enjoy playing Call of Duty 4/5 online now, with my new Graphics Card (I say new its about a year old - GTX 260) I hit over 150fps! I really wish I had that back in the day when these games first came out! My old 8800GTS was ok for about 60fps so not all bad, I could still own peeps

I still have my Core i7 940 PC with a pair of Radeon 5850's in Crossfire.... not sure how many fps i get with this setup but i know it's quite high with most games running at max detail and a resolution of 1920X1080

I've had this PC for well over a year now and it's been great! The only game that can slow it down is Metro 2033 with everything turned up to the max... I don't know of any PC at the moment that can run this game silky smooth and maxed out at the same time

My next gaming PC is going to be built around the AMD Bulldozer next year

[fitzsteve]

I'm going to buy a new motherboard, CPU and Ram at some point becuase this system is starting to struggle the main bits are over 3 years old, still running a socket 939 motherboard so no room for CPU upgrade, my 4400+ isn't far off the best CPU available and for some reason 4800+ / AMD FX CPU's go for silly money.

[PowerPie5000]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

I'm going to buy a new motherboard, CPU and Ram at some point becuase this system is starting to struggle the main bits are over 3 years old, still running a socket 939 motherboard so no room for CPU upgrade, my 4400+ isn't far off the best CPU available and for some reason 4800+ / AMD FX CPU's go for silly money.

A cheap AMD socket AM3 motherboard paired with 4gb DDR3 RAM and a budget Athlon/Phenom II X4 CPU will make quite a difference without breaking the bank

The AMD Athlon II X4 645 (3.1ghz quad core) is a great budget CPU that is both fast and cool... It will run anything you throw at it

[fitzsteve]

Originally Posted by PowerPie5000

A cheap AMD socket AM3 motherboard paired with 4gb DDR3 RAM and a budget Athlon/Phenom II X4 CPU will make quite a difference without breaking the bank

The AMD Athlon II X4 645 (3.1ghz quad core) is a great budget CPU that is both fast and cool... It will run anything you throw at it

Yep thats exactly what I'm doing, except getting the AMD X4 965

Its on the Chrismas list

[PowerPie5000]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

Yep thats exactly what I'm doing, except getting the AMD X4 965

Its on the Chrismas list

The Phenom II 965 is a great gaming CPU and you will certainly notice the difference

[StarEye]

Tsk, the only thing worse than FPS is FPS in FPS talk.

[PowerPie5000]

Originally Posted by StarEye

Tsk, the only thing worse than FPS is FPS in FPS talk.

[fitzsteve]

To keep on topic I voted, <5fps

[TCD]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

To keep on topic I voted, <5fps

Weirdo

[StarEye]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

To keep on topic I voted, <5fps

So, you want Myst then?

[Zetr0]

I'm Happy with my AMD7750+ / 4GB RAM / Nvida 9800 GTX =D

since the motherboard has an Nvida inbuilt (with physX as well) I get a little extra boost too =)

If I find another 9800GTX I shall plumb them together for some overly pointless statement of FPS =D


recently my brother got

Gigabyte 870A UD3 motherboard
AMD Phenom II 1055T (6core / 9mb cache)
8GB (4*2048) Dual Chan XMS RAM 1333 DDR3 (8,8,8,22)
ATI HD6870 1GB GFX
1 GB Samsung Sata 2 HD 32MB Cache
1 Samsung DVDRW DL SATA optical drive
700 watt PSU
XTC Gaming Case

Total (inc postage / vat) £627.80 - he ordered it yesterday... while round my house =)

We were discussing an i7 core cpu - however we have been able to build an entire rig for that price

[fitzsteve]

Sounds like a beast of a system Mr Zee, when I order my Mobo, AMD 965 & 4gb I'm tempted to grab another GTX260 as well for some silly FPS

Wonder if I'd hit 999 in some Quake 3 engined game like SOF2

Sod it, maybe I'll get another 3 screens at the same time 4x 22in Samsung Synchmasters

What a command centre

Also tempted to get a 64gb SSD for my Windoze drive...

[PowerPie5000]

Originally Posted by Zetr0

Total (inc postage / vat) £627.80 - he ordered it yesterday... while round my house =)

Now that's a brilliant price! Great system too

Originally Posted by Zetr0

We were discussing an i7 core cpu - however we have been able to build an entire rig for that price

Yeah the i7 CPU's and boards can be a bit on the pricey side. I built my i7 rig some time ago when it was still fairly new and all i use it for is web browsing and gaming. I should have saved some cash and just gone for a Phenom II system

Anyway i'll be selling my i7 PC soon and will be starting again with the AMD Bulldozer next year (i have high hopes for this one ). I just hope AMD can maintain their nice prices and stomp all over Intel at the same time

[Zetr0]

@PowerPie

at the moment the top-end i7 980's are nearly twice the performance of the Phenom II series - this is compounded with better memory bandwidth - however at 3.5 times the price - its not really cost-effective.

A Top end Intel Core i7 980x Extreme (Gulftown 32nm), 6 Cores, 3.33GHz, QPI 6.4GT/s, 12MB Cache, 130W, Retail box = £728 on its own - hence the entire machine above and you get £100 change!!

I believe that a top-end AMD solution comprising of
AMD 1090T Black (OC) edition (6 cores / 9MB cache) @3.2Ghz
8GB of 1666Mhz DDR3 in dual chan mode
2x Nvidia GTX480's

will have a lot to say against the price and performance of an i7 980 build

3DMark 2006 highest benches (44,xxx) comprise of

ASUS Extreme Motherboard
Intel i7 980
6GB RAM
Radeon 5870

the entire top 20 have this build, I am please the machine I built over two years ago for under £250 attains 10,581 in 3DMark2006 - so thats a YAY!

[gimbal]

Originally Posted by Zetr0

@PowerPie

at the moment the top-end i7 980's are nearly twice the performance of the Phenom II series - this is compounded with better memory bandwidth - however at 3.5 times the price - its not really cost-effective.

It is if you do heavy duty graphics work (3D rendering, photoshop, etc.), but for games? Absolutely not. The GPU is king in that area, the proc only secondary. It would be useful for complex AI, but well games still don't have that...

So I chose for the Phenom2 also, and I've not had any complaints yet. What I got is an efficient and powerful little devil (quad core) that produces only a minor amount of heat under load. Brilliant.

[Zetr0]

I completely agree my dear gimbal =)

[Photon]

Totally depends on the 'tempo' in the game. A flight sim could be 5 fps and still fun, while F1GP at the same rate is NOT Single player shooter, 30+, while in multiplayer against good competition, 75 fps becomes boring very fast.

[pintcat]

My fav 1st person shooter on the Amiga - ADOOM - runs with somewhat between 10-20 fps depending on the size, action, motion, detail level, number of objects currently visible on the screen. This is quite playable and still fun for me.

[gimbal]

Originally Posted by pintcat

My fav 1st person shooter on the Amiga - ADOOM - runs with somewhat between 10-20 fps depending on the size, action, motion, detail level, number of objects currently visible on the screen. This is quite playable and still fun for me.

Yeah well when first playing doom I was more than happy running it at 30 FPS on my 486DX33 with occasional bog-downs Before that I was only too happy playing it in low resolution mode on a 386. It didn't matter - you could play Doom!

[pubzombie]

Y'all
am i right in thinking film is about 24fps?
I start to get p#ssed at less than 30-20fps. My rig runs COD WaW at 200+fps and I still suck, where as the xbox can get around 65-70fps for cod waw [ i am sure i read this recently] and i own
go figure ;(
my gaming has improved no end with a phatt 5meg upload though
PZ