Seriously frustrating, what to do next?

ORSM T · 16 June 2007, 06:30

Well it's a little shitfull when you have 100 meg of software in adf format on your pc, and just OS 3.1 on your miggy 1200. I ordered and recieved a Compact Flash to PCMCIA adapter, and tried it with a Sandisk Ultra II 1gb. Prepcard sees it but can't do anything with it. So I got a plain Sandisk 512mb, and the same story. What is the general scenario when you place a Compact Flash and adapter in the pcmcia port? Do you get a drive icon on the Workbench screen? Is the compactflash.device required? I am a little lost at this point. All the software I wish to run is unavailable to me until I get this going. Including DOpus.

I have no other means to transfer at my disposal, ie Null modem or similar.

lost_loven · 16 June 2007, 06:33

try transfering by the means of floppy?

ORSM T · 16 June 2007, 06:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by lost_loven

try transfering by the means of floppy?

How? I only have adf's. I need to get the adf's to the miggy, then convert them to floppy. My pc can't work with Amiga floppies, correct?

ORSM T · 16 June 2007, 07:03

Well, after reading a few related pages, it seems I need compactflash.device as found on EasyADF's floppy. And Fat95, also found on this disk apparantly. So, all I need is this disk. I already have the adapter and card. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!

fc.studio · 16 June 2007, 07:34

How much big is your hard disk? I suggest you to use compact flash to transfer Killergorilla WHDLoad Pack (downloaded by PC) so you can install and play games from your Amiga hard disk.
With little and cheap adapter you can use one of your CF like HD.
On real Amiga I would use ADF format only for the games not supported by WHDLoad.

ORSM T · 16 June 2007, 07:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

How much big is your hard disk? I suggest you to use compact flash to transfer Killergorilla WHDLoad Pack (downloaded by PC) so you can install and play games from your Amiga hard disk.
With little and cheap adapter you can use one of your CF like HD.
On real Amiga I would use ADF format only for the games not supported by WHDLoad.

There are a number programs including DOpus that I want to install. I have adf's of these. And it these moreso than games that I am working to install. As well as putting them to floppy. My hard disk is 2.1gb. Thanks.

fc.studio · 16 June 2007, 08:08

You're right. For some programs I do this like you too. Have a good job...

ppill · 16 June 2007, 09:25

As with most drives on the Amiga you need THREE things:
device
filesystem
mountlist

For PCMCIA CF adapters these are respectively:
compactflash.device in DEVS:
fat95 in L:
and a text file (named lets say CF0) like the one below in SYS:Storage/DOSDrivers/ or DEVS:DOSDrivers

Code:

FileSystem = l:fat95
Device = compactflash.device
Unit = 0
Flags = 0
LowCyl = 0
HighCyl = 0
Surfaces = 1
BlocksPerTrack = 1
BlockSize = 512
Buffers = 20
BufMemType = 1
BootPri = 0
Stacksize = 4096
Priority = 5
GlobVec = -1
DosType = 0x46415401
Activate = 1

also utilities like CardPatch and CardReset to fix a few bugs connected with the PCMCIA port on the A1200.

All the necessary files are on this ADF.

What set of Workbench disks (version and names) you've got? Since you still need to transfer that adf to a floppy and these will come in handy :)

Also all of the mentioned software is on Aminet

blade002 · 16 June 2007, 09:45

All i want to say to ORSM T is "damn its #@$@%@ cold here in Melbourne right now" !!!. Have your nuts & garden hose retreated like mine have every morning?!.

ORSM T · 16 June 2007, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade002

All i want to say to ORSM T is "damn its #@$@%@ cold here in Melbourne right now" !!!. Have your nuts & garden hose retreated like mine have every morning?!.

Just like a poked snail LOL. Try working nightshift on the wharf, then cold has a new meaning.

ORSM T · 16 June 2007, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppill

As with most drives on the Amiga you need THREE things:
device
filesystem
mountlist

For PCMCIA CF adapters these are respectively:
compactflash.device in DEVS:
fat95 in L:
and a text file (named lets say CF0) like the one below in SYS:Storage/DOSDrivers/ or DEVS

OSDrivers

Code:

FileSystem = l:fat95
Device = compactflash.device
Unit = 0
Flags = 0
LowCyl = 0
HighCyl = 0
Surfaces = 1
BlocksPerTrack = 1
BlockSize = 512
Buffers = 20
BufMemType = 1
BootPri = 0
Stacksize = 4096
Priority = 5
GlobVec = -1
DosType = 0x46415401
Activate = 1

also utilities like CardPatch and CardReset to fix a few bugs connected with the PCMCIA port on the A1200.

All the necessary files are on this ADF.

What set of Workbench disks (version and names) you've got? Since you still need to transfer that adf to a floppy and these will come in handy

Also all of the mentioned software is on Aminet

Great post...

I have adf's of all versions from 1.2 to 3.1, as well as OS3.9 in a zip. But it's all acedemic, as I don't have anyway to get the adf to disk, so I can get the compact flash recognised. The perfect catch 22.

The 1200 had 3.1 installed on it when I got it. But no disks came with it.

Jope · 16 June 2007, 10:13

Well, put the zip file on a pc 720kB disk along with unzip (from aminet) and transdisk (from winuae amiga programs directory), mount pc0: on the A1200, jam in the 720kB disk and copy the stuff over, unzip it to ram: or your HD, transdisk -w your adf to a blank floppy.

I'm sure you can find a PC with a floppy drive somewhere!

ORSM T · 16 June 2007, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

Well, put the zip file on a pc 720kB disk along with unzip (from aminet) and transdisk (from winuae amiga programs directory), mount pc0: on the A1200, jam in the 720kB disk and copy the stuff over, unzip it to ram: or your HD, transdisk -w your adf to a blank floppy.

I'm sure you can find a PC with a floppy drive somewhere!

I am on the pc now....

I have only 1.44 mb floppies and 880k dd's. I thought of this as well. It's hard when you have limited hardware at hand. Is there a way to format a 1.44 as a 720? Probably a dumb question, but at this stage I'll risk it.

I'll answer that.... You cannot format a 720k floppy in XP. That sux.....

Jope · 16 June 2007, 11:02

I see you need to lurk more. :-)

You can either format the disks on an A1200, open up a CLI and say:

mount pc0:
sys:system/format drive pc0: name mydisk noicons
(or use the mouse and format the disk from wb if you enjoy using an inferior input device ;-)

Or you can format the disks in XP by opening up a command prompt and saying:

format /T:80 /N:9 a:

As you noticed, the XP format dialog no longer offers the old formats, but the OS itself supports them just fine.

If you use HD disks formatted as DD, you must tape over the HD detection hole before inserting it into the PC drive. Also some Amiga Tech A1200s need the piece of tape, I have heard.

ORSM T · 16 June 2007, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

I see you need to lurk more. :-)

You can either format the disks on an A1200, open up a CLI and say:

mount pc0:
sys:system/format drive pc0: name mydisk noicons
(or use the mouse and format the disk from wb if you enjoy using an inferior input device ;-)

Or you can format the disks in XP by opening up a command prompt and saying:

format /T:80 /N:9 a:

As you noticed, the XP format dialog no longer offers the old formats, but the OS itself supports them just fine.

If you use HD disks formatted as DD, you must tape over the HD detection hole before inserting it into the PC drive. Also some Amiga Tech A1200s need the piece of tape, I have heard.

Hahahaha Yep, I'm lurking to be sure.... Just found this and it also works for formatting a 720k. http://www.alkonost.com/maxformat/ However your input, and the other replies are priceless to this "Long time away from Amiga" dude. I will soldier on, and see how all this goes.....

P.S. I tried both methods to format a 720k floppy. Both worked a treat. I'm impressed.

ORSM T · 16 June 2007, 12:05

Man you guys rock....

"It's alive"

Thank you so very much. Now I have some work to do.....

16 June 2007, 06:30	#1
ORSM T Amiga Rulez Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melton, Australia Age: 63 Posts: 85	Seriously frustrating, what to do next? Well it's a little shitfull when you have 100 meg of software in adf format on your pc, and just OS 3.1 on your miggy 1200. I ordered and recieved a Compact Flash to PCMCIA adapter, and tried it with a Sandisk Ultra II 1gb. Prepcard sees it but can't do anything with it. So I got a plain Sandisk 512mb, and the same story. What is the general scenario when you place a Compact Flash and adapter in the pcmcia port? Do you get a drive icon on the Workbench screen? Is the compactflash.device required? I am a little lost at this point. All the software I wish to run is unavailable to me until I get this going. Including DOpus. I have no other means to transfer at my disposal, ie Null modem or similar.

16 June 2007, 09:25	#8
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	As with most drives on the Amiga you need THREE things: device filesystem mountlist For PCMCIA CF adapters these are respectively: compactflash.device in DEVS: fat95 in L: and a text file (named lets say CF0) like the one below in SYS:Storage/DOSDrivers/ or DEVS:DOSDrivers Code: FileSystem = l:fat95 Device = compactflash.device Unit = 0 Flags = 0 LowCyl = 0 HighCyl = 0 Surfaces = 1 BlocksPerTrack = 1 BlockSize = 512 Buffers = 20 BufMemType = 1 BootPri = 0 Stacksize = 4096 Priority = 5 GlobVec = -1 DosType = 0x46415401 Activate = 1 also utilities like CardPatch and CardReset to fix a few bugs connected with the PCMCIA port on the A1200. All the necessary files are on this ADF. What set of Workbench disks (version and names) you've got? Since you still need to transfer that adf to a floppy and these will come in handy :) Also all of the mentioned software is on Aminet

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16 June 2007, 06:33	#2
lost_loven Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: winnipeg Posts: 358	try transfering by the means of floppy?

16 June 2007, 07:03	#4
ORSM T Amiga Rulez Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melton, Australia Age: 63 Posts: 85	Well, after reading a few related pages, it seems I need compactflash.device as found on EasyADF's floppy. And Fat95, also found on this disk apparantly. So, all I need is this disk. I already have the adapter and card. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!

16 June 2007, 07:34	#5
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	How much big is your hard disk? I suggest you to use compact flash to transfer Killergorilla WHDLoad Pack (downloaded by PC) so you can install and play games from your Amiga hard disk. With little and cheap adapter you can use one of your CF like HD. On real Amiga I would use ADF format only for the games not supported by WHDLoad.

16 June 2007, 08:08	#7
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	You're right. For some programs I do this like you too. Have a good job...

16 June 2007, 09:45	#9
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	All i want to say to ORSM T is "damn its #@$@%@ cold here in Melbourne right now" !!!. Have your nuts & garden hose retreated like mine have every morning?!.

16 June 2007, 10:13	#12
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,879	Well, put the zip file on a pc 720kB disk along with unzip (from aminet) and transdisk (from winuae amiga programs directory), mount pc0: on the A1200, jam in the 720kB disk and copy the stuff over, unzip it to ram: or your HD, transdisk -w your adf to a blank floppy. I'm sure you can find a PC with a floppy drive somewhere!

16 June 2007, 11:02	#14
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,879	I see you need to lurk more. :-) You can either format the disks on an A1200, open up a CLI and say: mount pc0: sys:system/format drive pc0: name mydisk noicons (or use the mouse and format the disk from wb if you enjoy using an inferior input device ;-) Or you can format the disks in XP by opening up a command prompt and saying: format /T:80 /N:9 a: As you noticed, the XP format dialog no longer offers the old formats, but the OS itself supports them just fine. If you use HD disks formatted as DD, you must tape over the HD detection hole before inserting it into the PC drive. Also some Amiga Tech A1200s need the piece of tape, I have heard.

16 June 2007, 12:05	#16
ORSM T Amiga Rulez Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melton, Australia Age: 63 Posts: 85	Man you guys rock.... "It's alive" Thank you so very much. Now I have some work to do.....

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