Can IK+ plus be hacked for 3 human ply simultaneous?

rsn8887 · 07 September 2007, 21:41

I just came up with this idea, but don't know about disassembling and patching games:
Is it possible for some coding guru to go in and patch ik+ to allow the third dude to be controlled by a third joystick connected e.g. via 4ply adapter?
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DamienD · 07 September 2007, 21:47

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Originally Posted by rsn8887

to be controlled by a third joystick connected e.g. via 4ply adapter?

...or via a USB --> 4 x Xbox controller adapter (via emulation of course)

Graham Humphrey · 07 September 2007, 21:50

If anyone could patch the game to do this then they deserve a knighthood.

Retro-Nerd · 07 September 2007, 22:56

The C-64 version is patched for 3 players, you need the Protovision 4-player adapter.

http://gb64.com/game.php?id=13438&d=18&h=0

alkis21 · 07 September 2007, 23:53

An easier (though very useful) patch would be one that removed those silly shield&kick bombs mid-games that get in the way of the real action!

Bamiga2002 · 08 September 2007, 00:01

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Originally Posted by alkis21

An easier (though very useful) patch would be one that removed those silly shield&kick bombs mid-games that get in the way of the real action!

That's exactly what i was thinking. Add an option to remove those mid-games and add 3-pl possibility! How about a 4th human/computer pl?

Graham Humphrey · 08 September 2007, 00:05

You may as well write a completely new game if you're going to take it that far

girv · 08 September 2007, 00:36

Of course it's possible, it's just a matter of finding the correct order of 1's and 0's

alexh · 08 September 2007, 02:19

For as we all know there are 10 people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that do not.

DamienD · 08 September 2007, 04:30

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Originally Posted by alexh

For as we all know there are 10 people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that do not.

Who's saying is that alexh?

I read it every now and then on Luca Elia's website as part of the random quotes

jotd · 08 September 2007, 09:31

I think it could be done of course, since player 2 is controlled either by CPU or human. The same thing could be done with the 3rd player.

But it would require a total change of game strategy: in 2 player mode the aim is that CPU opponent has the lowest possible score in order to continue playing, and he's never thrown out.

What would be the point of going through the levels without a CPU opponent, and would the last one be thrown out after first round?

And yes, I agree the bomb and bounce thing is really boring after a while.

If you know the arcade version of Karate Champ, you'll see that there are bonus sections but they only last 5 seconds if you decide to flunk them.

rsn8887 · 08 September 2007, 20:48

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Originally Posted by DamienD

...or via a USB --> 4 x Xbox controller adapter (via emulation of course)

WinUAE, in its divinity, already supports mapping of host controllers -> emulated amiga 4ply adapter controllers...

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Originally Posted by jotd

I think it could be done of course, since player 2 is controlled either by CPU or human. The same thing could be done with the 3rd player.

But it would require a total change of game strategy: in 2 player mode the aim is that CPU opponent has the lowest possible score in order to continue playing, and he's never thrown out.

What would be the point of going through the levels without a CPU opponent, and would the last one be thrown out after first round?

Ok since the C64 version has been patched (thanks for the info, Retro-nerd), I bet the same thing is possible with the Amiga version.

Since the C64 version (IK+ Gold) seems to play fine with 3 ply (I guess players have to count the number of rounds won themselves). Why not just do the same thing to Amiga version? Of course we need a disassembler-genius to actually perform this task, but he would deserve a shrine or some donations

.

The description of the C64 "unlimited mode" is here:
http://s64.emuunlim.com/gameinfos/ik...ikplusgold.htm ,
one can see how 3ply could be done in practice.
A counter for each player that displays the number of rounds won, per player, would be the icing on the cake for great, endless, 3ply joy.

alexh · 08 September 2007, 21:29

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Originally Posted by DamienD

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Originally Posted by alexh

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Originally Posted by girv

Of course it's possible, it's just a matter of finding the correct order of 1's and 0's

For as we all know there are 10 people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that do not.

Who's saying is that alexh?

I dont know but 1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d

laffer · 10 September 2007, 04:49

I can't read that! I don't need to get laid! ...

Hungry Horace · 10 September 2007, 12:32

why not have it that a player drops out if they lose both rounds (between the bonus rounds) this way it would be possible for all 3 players to continue for ages, but you'll still have to be careful not to lose too much!

i'd love to see this happen... but i dont know how anyone could NOT like the bomb round??!

Kristian95 · 10 September 2007, 13:44

the bomb round is ok, except for the bug that sometimes you die when a bomb explodes, even if you are FAR away from any shrapnel

I'd love the option to turn the "bonus levels" off as well as being able to play 3 player

Graham Humphrey · 10 September 2007, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

i'd love to see this happen... but i dont know how anyone could NOT like the bomb round??!

Agreed... I think it's great

Zetr0 · 10 September 2007, 15:01

Bomb / Shield are indeed great parts of the game.... and Slabs which you have to headbutt .... awsome!

and once you have demoralized your opponent with at 2 nill trouncing... to turn arround and get a perfect at the shield / bomb or slabs.... makes it all feel better.....

personally though, theres more chance of making Chaos Engine 3 player unfortunately!

Hungry Horace · 10 September 2007, 15:41

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Originally Posted by Zetr0

and Slabs which you have to headbutt .... awsome!

what's this??

Zetr0 · 10 September 2007, 16:00

you know.... where there is a stack of blocks and you have to break them using your head... it might be another IK+......

07 September 2007, 21:41	#1
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07 September 2007, 21:50	#3
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	If anyone could patch the game to do this then they deserve a knighthood.

07 September 2007, 22:56	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	The C-64 version is patched for 3 players, you need the Protovision 4-player adapter. http://gb64.com/game.php?id=13438&d=18&h=0

07 September 2007, 23:53	#5
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	An easier (though very useful) patch would be one that removed those silly shield&kick bombs mid-games that get in the way of the real action!

08 September 2007, 00:05	#7
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	You may as well write a completely new game if you're going to take it that far

08 September 2007, 00:36	#8
girv Mostly Harmless Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 1,120	Of course it's possible, it's just a matter of finding the correct order of 1's and 0's

08 September 2007, 02:19	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,400	For as we all know there are 10 people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that do not.

08 September 2007, 09:31	#11
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,307	I think it could be done of course, since player 2 is controlled either by CPU or human. The same thing could be done with the 3rd player. But it would require a total change of game strategy: in 2 player mode the aim is that CPU opponent has the lowest possible score in order to continue playing, and he's never thrown out. What would be the point of going through the levels without a CPU opponent, and would the last one be thrown out after first round? And yes, I agree the bomb and bounce thing is really boring after a while. If you know the arcade version of Karate Champ, you'll see that there are bonus sections but they only last 5 seconds if you decide to flunk them.

10 September 2007, 04:49	#14
laffer Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Norway Age: 43 Posts: 1,335	I can't read that! I don't need to get laid! ...

10 September 2007, 12:32	#15
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,545	why not have it that a player drops out if they lose both rounds (between the bonus rounds) this way it would be possible for all 3 players to continue for ages, but you'll still have to be careful not to lose too much! i'd love to see this happen... but i dont know how anyone could NOT like the bomb round??!

10 September 2007, 13:44	#16
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	the bomb round is ok, except for the bug that sometimes you die when a bomb explodes, even if you are FAR away from any shrapnel I'd love the option to turn the "bonus levels" off as well as being able to play 3 player

10 September 2007, 15:01	#18
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Bomb / Shield are indeed great parts of the game.... and Slabs which you have to headbutt .... awsome! and once you have demoralized your opponent with at 2 nill trouncing... to turn arround and get a perfect at the shield / bomb or slabs.... makes it all feel better..... personally though, theres more chance of making Chaos Engine 3 player unfortunately!

10 September 2007, 16:00	#20
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	you know.... where there is a stack of blocks and you have to break them using your head... it might be another IK+......

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