Will the Amiga 500 or Amiga 1000 run workbench 2?

16 August 2001, 08:45

Well I guess the subject say it all - Will the Amiga 500 or Amiga 1000 run workbench 2?

If they won't run workbench 2, is there a way of changing a chip to make it run it?

Thanks heaps!

Andrew

16 August 2001, 10:10

The Amiga 500 plus will run Workbench 2

A standard Amiga 500 won't. Neither will a standard Amiga 1000. The reason is they both come with a kickstart 1.x chip. You need at least Kickstart 2.0 to run Workbench 2

If you can find yourself a kickstart rom, then it's a plug n play operation. Take out the old rom, put in the new rom.

16 August 2001, 12:24

I have found a shop that still does Amiga repairs and upgrades. The technician said he could do the upgrade for me and provide the disk for $50 Australian dollars.

It works out to be ₤18.31 (rounded to 2 decimal places)

Is this too much?

Thanks for helping a clueless newbie

Andrew

16 August 2001, 16:27

You live in Sydney, therefore, the technician you speak of is Jeff, who runs Unitech Electronics

(which is the official distributor for Amiga related stuff). He's a good guy, but I know him best for overpricing everything (although I did buy quite a few CD32 games from him a while back for $5 each...Worms CD32 cost me $15 from him, but that came in a pretty box

)

What exactly did he say he would upgrade it to? Kickstart 2, 3 or 3.1? I'm guessing 3.1, but maybe he said 2

I think it's a little expensive for a Kickstart 2 (if it's 3 or above, it's good), but, considering I can't find any type of Kickstarts anywhere it's probably the best deal for you(sometimes in the Trading Post you'll see an Amiga 1200 for sale at a cheap price, but that's it).

I think you should do it only due to the lack of Amiga support in Australia

16 August 2001, 16:40

Actually the shop was called "Outdoor Computer Games" and it is located in Emerton (near Mount Druit) in Sydney.

I will have to go see Jeff and see if he can do it any cheaper or sooner.

Oh yeah, I asked for "Kickstart 2" or higher because i was told that was what i needed to be able to read PC formated floppies.

Feel free to email me

16 August 2001, 17:38

Outdoor Computer Games?

I've never heard of them? They stock Amiga stuff?

I think it would be better to go to them, since it's probably alot cheaper

But. Check out Unitech anyway. He may surprise you (possibly)

16 August 2001, 17:45

It doesn't hurt to be able to shp around

Thanks for all the advice!

Amiga1992 · 16 August 2001, 20:32

there are some CrossDos versions that do not need KS2.0 ... But if you still want to upgrade your 500 to 2.0, it's an easy operation

I wouldn't touch such machines anyway, specially the 1000. leave it untouched as it is now! If I was you I'd look for an old CrossDos that works on 1.3 and the like. Somewhere I read CrossDos 5 works fine on a 500. Can anybody confirm this?

17 August 2001, 15:04

What is cross dos?

I am very new to Amiga

CodyJarrett · 17 August 2001, 16:13

It was a commercial program that allowed the Amiga to read PC formatted (and Mac I think) floppy disks. But from certain Workbench versions onwards, this was built-in.

So, you could use it to transfer files between Amiga and PC.

Amiga1992 · 17 August 2001, 18:08

CrossDos is the proggy you need to read PC Disks, not the workbench. What you heard is what Cody said, workbench versions 3.0 and 2.1 came with it built-in.

So you dont need to install a new kickstart in your machine, just get a CrossDos that works on a 1.3 machine

17 August 2001, 18:09

There's a filesystem that I used to use called Multidos. It's freely available (possibly on Aminet). This, I can guarantee, works with Kickstart 1.3 Amiga's

But. The reason I didn't mention it is, how exactly will this be transferred to his Amiga?

18 August 2001, 05:02

CrossDos (or Multidos) would be great, but as Amigaboy stated that at the moment it is a vicious circle.

There is a meeting for a local (Sydney / Australia) Amiga user group on the second of next month. There I’m sure I will be able to get any and all software needed.

Tonight I will be picking up a CD drive will also solve the file transfer problem.

Thanks for all the help!! This site is great!

16 August 2001, 08:45	#1
anim8 Posts: n/a	PROB SOLVED - Will the Amiga 500 or Amiga 1000 run workbench 2? Well I guess the subject say it all - Will the Amiga 500 or Amiga 1000 run workbench 2? If they won't run workbench 2, is there a way of changing a chip to make it run it? Thanks heaps! Andrew Last edited by anim8; 17 August 2001 at 15:02.

17 August 2001, 16:13	#10
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	CrossDos It was a commercial program that allowed the Amiga to read PC formatted (and Mac I think) floppy disks. But from certain Workbench versions onwards, this was built-in. So, you could use it to transfer files between Amiga and PC.

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16 August 2001, 10:10	#2
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	The Amiga 500 plus will run Workbench 2 A standard Amiga 500 won't. Neither will a standard Amiga 1000. The reason is they both come with a kickstart 1.x chip. You need at least Kickstart 2.0 to run Workbench 2 If you can find yourself a kickstart rom, then it's a plug n play operation. Take out the old rom, put in the new rom.

16 August 2001, 12:24	#3
anim8 Posts: n/a	I have found a shop that still does Amiga repairs and upgrades. The technician said he could do the upgrade for me and provide the disk for $50 Australian dollars. It works out to be ₤18.31 (rounded to 2 decimal places) Is this too much? Thanks for helping a clueless newbie Andrew

16 August 2001, 16:27	#4
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	You live in Sydney, therefore, the technician you speak of is Jeff, who runs Unitech Electronics (which is the official distributor for Amiga related stuff). He's a good guy, but I know him best for overpricing everything (although I did buy quite a few CD32 games from him a while back for $5 each...Worms CD32 cost me $15 from him, but that came in a pretty box ) What exactly did he say he would upgrade it to? Kickstart 2, 3 or 3.1? I'm guessing 3.1, but maybe he said 2 I think it's a little expensive for a Kickstart 2 (if it's 3 or above, it's good), but, considering I can't find any type of Kickstarts anywhere it's probably the best deal for you(sometimes in the Trading Post you'll see an Amiga 1200 for sale at a cheap price, but that's it). I think you should do it only due to the lack of Amiga support in Australia

16 August 2001, 16:40	#5
anim8 Posts: n/a	Actually the shop was called "Outdoor Computer Games" and it is located in Emerton (near Mount Druit) in Sydney. I will have to go see Jeff and see if he can do it any cheaper or sooner. Oh yeah, I asked for "Kickstart 2" or higher because i was told that was what i needed to be able to read PC formated floppies. Feel free to email me

16 August 2001, 17:38	#6
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	Outdoor Computer Games? I've never heard of them? They stock Amiga stuff? I think it would be better to go to them, since it's probably alot cheaper But. Check out Unitech anyway. He may surprise you (possibly)

16 August 2001, 17:45	#7
anim8 Posts: n/a	It doesn't hurt to be able to shp around Thanks for all the advice!

16 August 2001, 20:32	#8
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	there are some CrossDos versions that do not need KS2.0 ... But if you still want to upgrade your 500 to 2.0, it's an easy operation I wouldn't touch such machines anyway, specially the 1000. leave it untouched as it is now! If I was you I'd look for an old CrossDos that works on 1.3 and the like. Somewhere I read CrossDos 5 works fine on a 500. Can anybody confirm this?

17 August 2001, 15:04	#9
anim8 Posts: n/a	What is cross dos? I am very new to Amiga

17 August 2001, 18:08	#11
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	CrossDos is the proggy you need to read PC Disks, not the workbench. What you heard is what Cody said, workbench versions 3.0 and 2.1 came with it built-in. So you dont need to install a new kickstart in your machine, just get a CrossDos that works on a 1.3 machine

17 August 2001, 18:09	#12
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	There's a filesystem that I used to use called Multidos. It's freely available (possibly on Aminet). This, I can guarantee, works with Kickstart 1.3 Amiga's But. The reason I didn't mention it is, how exactly will this be transferred to his Amiga?

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18 August 2001, 05:02	#13
anim8 Posts: n/a	CrossDos (or Multidos) would be great, but as Amigaboy stated that at the moment it is a vicious circle. There is a meeting for a local (Sydney / Australia) Amiga user group on the second of next month. There I’m sure I will be able to get any and all software needed. Tonight I will be picking up a CD drive will also solve the file transfer problem. Thanks for all the help!! This site is great!