Matt Chat 66: Fallout with Tim Cain

gilgamesh · 28 June 2010, 09:01

Hello everybody,

Matt has released his latest interview with Tim Cain on Fallout and a lot more.
[ Show youtube player ]

Great stuff. Enjoy.

gimbal · 28 June 2010, 14:39

w00t! Thanks for the heads up, I'm going to watch this as soon as I am home!

gimbal · 28 June 2010, 19:53

nice episode. I found especially interesting the comments on how the gurps system was a module and how the game would ask it questions; sparked some ideas of my own!

mattbarton.exe · 28 June 2010, 21:58

Thanks for posting, gilgamesh. I did a little research into the whole gurps thing, but still haven't come up with any clear answers. Apparently, Steve Jackson and the designers really wanted to go ahead with gurps, but there was some kind of issue at Interplay (at the top level). I'm guessing Jackson was asking for more money than Interplay was willing to pay.

Peter · 28 June 2010, 22:10

That was a nice tribute made to Daniel Lawrence (Telegard) Matt.

gilgamesh · 28 June 2010, 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbarton.exe

I'm guessing Jackson was asking for more money than Interplay was willing to pay.

There was some story about Jackson objecting to "excessive violence" in Fallout, which might translate to "too few money" of course. I didn't find it, well, very excessive.

mattbarton.exe · 29 June 2010, 01:04

Was that it was? I guess that would make sense, though the comments I read from Jackson kept indicating that the problem was somewhere higher up the chain.

gilgamesh · 29 June 2010, 22:14

Wow, 2500 hits in one day!

Btw, what is that thing flying through the picture at 3:30?

Would anybody here recommend Bloodlines?

TCD · 29 June 2010, 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilgamesh

Would anybody here recommend Bloodlines?

Me. There's not much replay value in it, but it's a great ride for the first time. Luckily I didn't get too much errors, as that game is quite known for having them. Surely a great first person RPG

I don't say that your videos are ace, but I assume you know that by now Matt

mattbarton.exe · 30 June 2010, 02:18

I guess nobody has seen that movie I loved back in the 80s! It was about three kids and featured a C-64 IIRC. I don't want to tell you what it is, though. :P

desiv · 30 June 2010, 05:48

Voyagers? Did that have a C64? It's been awhile...
(I'm sure it was the only movie in the 80's with 3 kids, so it has to be it..) :-)

BUZZ-- Wrong! Explorers!! :-( I was thinking of the right movie, but got the title wrong. :-(

desiv
Just went back and watched Matt Chat again, definitely Voyagers (I mean Explorers).. Great movie!!!!
(Sorry, I assumed it was some lame Youtube add that flew by the first time and didn't pay attention to it..)

Reminds me, what's a Rolls Kinardly? ;-)

I remember the joke, but not the title?

mattbarton.exe · 30 June 2010, 19:04

You're right, it's The Explorers!

Wak: It's a brand new car!
Wak: The Rolls Canardly ... Rolls down one hill CanArdly get up the next!

gimbal · 30 June 2010, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilgamesh

There was some story about Jackson objecting to "excessive violence" in Fallout, which might translate to "too few money" of course. I didn't find it, well, very excessive.

Perhaps it is the debate of shooting+killing children. There are versions of F1 + F2 where you can, and there are versions where the children are simply taken out.

desiv · 01 July 2010, 04:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbarton.exe

You're right, it's The Explorers!

Great movie!!! Thanx for the reminder!
I had no idea that was Ethan Hawke!!
I did know it was River Phoenix at the time, but Ethan hadn't become popular enough (to me at least) to register in my memory.

desiv
p.s. I heard they are going to remake Flight of the Navigator....

gilgamesh · 01 July 2010, 21:29

Over 4000 already and they're still coming!
This surprises me, since I had never (conciously) heard of Mr. McCain before.

Anyway I'm going to dust off Fallout and Arcanum again, right after Syndicate (my first PC game).

jmmijo · 01 July 2010, 21:54

Thanks Matt, nice interview

gilgamesh · 05 July 2010, 17:41

Here comes part two:
[ Show youtube player ]

(And I have just found my Fallout CD again. Damn Radscorpions.)

gilgamesh · 06 July 2010, 21:58

Hey, wait! Zeb Cook wrote AD&D 2nd ed., Planescape (paper and bytes), Pool of Radiance, lots of other stuff, and now he has the nerve to show up in Fallout's credits es well. There must have been some really interesting cooperation between TSR, SSI and Interplay.

Btw. the execution scene in Fallout's intro is cut in my edition. Mr. McCain said something about the "message" of the game, and this scene pretty much summed it up in a very sarcastic way. It's a shame.

gimbal · 06 July 2010, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilgamesh

Btw. the execution scene in Fallout's intro is cut in my edition. Mr. McCain said something about the "message" of the game, and this scene pretty much summed it up in a very sarcastic way. It's a shame.

I knew it! I downloaded an ISO version once (my original was a bit broken...) and all of a sudden I saw that part of the intro, not recognizing it. I thought I was crazy, but now I know for sure that my original didn't have that scene (and also no children)!

mattbarton.exe · 07 July 2010, 02:13

Yes, there was a lot of flack over the children, though I'm not clear on what the fuss was about. Apparently, at least one side quest in the childless version is unsolvable because the kid you're supposed to rescue isn't in the game.

28 June 2010, 09:01	#1
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	Matt Chat 66: Fallout with Tim Cain Hello everybody, Matt has released his latest interview with Tim Cain on Fallout and a lot more. [ Show youtube player ] Great stuff. Enjoy.

30 June 2010, 02:18	#10
mattbarton.exe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Cloud, MN/USA Posts: 328	I guess nobody has seen that movie I loved back in the 80s! It was about three kids and featured a C-64 IIRC. I don't want to tell you what it is, though. :P Last edited by mattbarton.exe; 30 June 2010 at 03:30.

30 June 2010, 05:48	#11
desiv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 1,767	Voyagers? Did that have a C64? It's been awhile... (I'm sure it was the only movie in the 80's with 3 kids, so it has to be it..) :-) BUZZ-- Wrong! Explorers!! :-( I was thinking of the right movie, but got the title wrong. :-( desiv Just went back and watched Matt Chat again, definitely Voyagers (I mean Explorers).. Great movie!!!! (Sorry, I assumed it was some lame Youtube add that flew by the first time and didn't pay attention to it..) Reminds me, what's a Rolls Kinardly? ;-) I remember the joke, but not the title? Last edited by desiv; 30 June 2010 at 06:46.

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28 June 2010, 14:39	#2
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,906	w00t! Thanks for the heads up, I'm going to watch this as soon as I am home!

28 June 2010, 19:53	#3
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,906	nice episode. I found especially interesting the comments on how the gurps system was a module and how the game would ask it questions; sparked some ideas of my own!

28 June 2010, 21:58	#4
mattbarton.exe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Cloud, MN/USA Posts: 328	Thanks for posting, gilgamesh. I did a little research into the whole gurps thing, but still haven't come up with any clear answers. Apparently, Steve Jackson and the designers really wanted to go ahead with gurps, but there was some kind of issue at Interplay (at the top level). I'm guessing Jackson was asking for more money than Interplay was willing to pay.

28 June 2010, 22:10	#5
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	That was a nice tribute made to Daniel Lawrence (Telegard) Matt.

29 June 2010, 01:04	#7
mattbarton.exe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Cloud, MN/USA Posts: 328	Was that it was? I guess that would make sense, though the comments I read from Jackson kept indicating that the problem was somewhere higher up the chain.

29 June 2010, 22:14	#8
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	Wow, 2500 hits in one day! Btw, what is that thing flying through the picture at 3:30? Would anybody here recommend Bloodlines?

30 June 2010, 19:04	#12
mattbarton.exe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Cloud, MN/USA Posts: 328	You're right, it's The Explorers! Wak: It's a brand new car! Wak: The Rolls Canardly ... Rolls down one hill CanArdly get up the next!

01 July 2010, 21:29	#15
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	Over 4000 already and they're still coming! This surprises me, since I had never (conciously) heard of Mr. McCain before. Anyway I'm going to dust off Fallout and Arcanum again, right after Syndicate (my first PC game).

01 July 2010, 21:54	#16
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	Thanks Matt, nice interview

05 July 2010, 17:41	#17
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	Here comes part two: [ Show youtube player ] (And I have just found my Fallout CD again. Damn Radscorpions.)

06 July 2010, 21:58	#18
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	Hey, wait! Zeb Cook wrote AD&D 2nd ed., Planescape (paper and bytes), Pool of Radiance, lots of other stuff, and now he has the nerve to show up in Fallout's credits es well. There must have been some really interesting cooperation between TSR, SSI and Interplay. Btw. the execution scene in Fallout's intro is cut in my edition. Mr. McCain said something about the "message" of the game, and this scene pretty much summed it up in a very sarcastic way. It's a shame.

07 July 2010, 02:13	#20
mattbarton.exe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Cloud, MN/USA Posts: 328	Yes, there was a lot of flack over the children, though I'm not clear on what the fuss was about. Apparently, at least one side quest in the childless version is unsolvable because the kid you're supposed to rescue isn't in the game.

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