Scale2x

14 December 2002, 03:06

A question: is it possible to implement this

http://scale2x.sourceforge.net/

into WinUAE?

I've seen this blitter in many arcade and console emulators, but not in computer emulators (though I emulate only Amiga and X68000).

RCK · 14 December 2002, 12:10

might be one nice idea as one option

Amiga1992 · 14 December 2002, 22:07

No, that sucks. It kills the pixel feel of the old system. Eagle, 2xSAI and the like, are enemies of my eyes

RCK · 14 December 2002, 23:21

that's why I was talking about one OPTION

28 December 2002, 14:38

I think it will be very helpful to implement more advanced method of interpolation like SCLALE2X or add a SPLINE algoritm.
Games will be looks great !!! .
It surely improve the popularity of WINUAE - in the case of oldschool game players ..... ( just thought )
Smoth screen with no blury pixels .. like an old amiga & TV monitor ... i allways dreamed about this

andreas · 28 December 2002, 16:07

This is (at least partly) already possible in current builds.
Did you ever think about trying the OpenGL mode with its stretching/shrinking abilities as well as bilinear filtering?
I've never witnessed a picture quality so close to the one of a real Amiga.

Amiga1992 · 28 December 2002, 20:07

All those antialiasing features do nothing but fuckup the real look of the games.

How can an oldschool player not be attracted by blocky pixels? Blocky pixels are sexy

30 December 2002, 13:22

Yea .. OPENGL with bilinear filtering looks good but this isn't an effective method of filtering.
Maybe there is a posibility to implement more advanced algoritm already exist in OPENGL ? ( trilinear or bicubic ?? ) which makes images more sharp ?.
BTW : Scale2x takes only few lines of code and i think it wouldn't be so dificult to implement this feature.

On my amiga & TV I have never seen any pixels so they aren't sexy for me

Amiga1992 · 30 December 2002, 14:39

You must have had some terrible sight condition?

Marcuz · 31 December 2002, 20:25

this kind of filter looks cool to me. not that i would like to use it on everything but i try to imagine lotus or xenon 2 so shaped. interesting

BippyM · 31 December 2002, 20:35

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
I've never witnessed a picture quality so close to the one of a real Amiga.

Run it thru a TV using your TV-Out.. looks pretty much identical to original Amiga screen (Except its in interlace

)

andreas · 31 December 2002, 20:40

I know. But not with THAT TV I have at the moment

Quote:

Originally posted by swinkels
Maybe there is a posibility to implement more advanced algoritm already exist in OPENGL ? ( trilinear or bicubic ?? ) which makes images more sharp ?

Well, that would interest me too.
Toni?

dreamkatcha · 01 January 2003, 13:06

I think it's a great idea and if it's turned off by default then no-one will be forced to use it if they dont like the effect.

Would this use less resources than the OpenGL 'blurring' effects?

14 December 2002, 03:06	#1
Fudo Posts: n/a	Scale2x A question: is it possible to implement this http://scale2x.sourceforge.net/ into WinUAE? I've seen this blitter in many arcade and console emulators, but not in computer emulators (though I emulate only Amiga and X68000).

28 December 2002, 14:38	#5
swinkels Posts: n/a	Add better interpolation ! ! I think it will be very helpful to implement more advanced method of interpolation like SCLALE2X or add a SPLINE algoritm. Games will be looks great !!! . It surely improve the popularity of WINUAE - in the case of oldschool game players ..... ( just thought ) Smoth screen with no blury pixels .. like an old amiga & TV monitor ... i allways dreamed about this

14 December 2002, 12:10	#2
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,084	might be one nice idea as one option

14 December 2002, 22:07	#3
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	No, that sucks. It kills the pixel feel of the old system. Eagle, 2xSAI and the like, are enemies of my eyes

14 December 2002, 23:21	#4
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,084	that's why I was talking about one OPTION

28 December 2002, 16:07	#6
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	This is (at least partly) already possible in current builds. Did you ever think about trying the OpenGL mode with its stretching/shrinking abilities as well as bilinear filtering? I've never witnessed a picture quality so close to the one of a real Amiga.

28 December 2002, 20:07	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	All those antialiasing features do nothing but fuckup the real look of the games. How can an oldschool player not be attracted by blocky pixels? Blocky pixels are sexy

30 December 2002, 13:22	#8
swinkels Posts: n/a	Yea .. OPENGL with bilinear filtering looks good but this isn't an effective method of filtering. Maybe there is a posibility to implement more advanced algoritm already exist in OPENGL ? ( trilinear or bicubic ?? ) which makes images more sharp ?. BTW : Scale2x takes only few lines of code and i think it wouldn't be so dificult to implement this feature. On my amiga & TV I have never seen any pixels so they aren't sexy for me

30 December 2002, 14:39	#9
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	You must have had some terrible sight condition?

31 December 2002, 20:25	#10
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	this kind of filter looks cool to me. not that i would like to use it on everything but i try to imagine lotus or xenon 2 so shaped. interesting

01 January 2003, 13:06	#13
dreamkatcha I've got a new byline Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,219	I think it's a great idea and if it's turned off by default then no-one will be forced to use it if they dont like the effect. Would this use less resources than the OpenGL 'blurring' effects?

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