SysInfo 4.0

[Geijer]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

Sysinfo 3.24 shows different speed results if you start it once, then move a few windows or do "avail flush" and restart it. I guess that the speed test code is depending very much on cache line alignment: If the core routine can take advantage of a full burst (4 longwords), it's faster and shows a higher value, although the machine is identical.

Is it possible to re-align the routine in fastmem to an address that has the lower 4 bits =0? Or even "configurable", so the routine is shifted in memory by 1-3 long words and the four values of four speed runs are shown in some debug window? Would be great to have the speed rating reproducable.

Another tool I use in accelerator development is "Bustest". Sometimes I think that an additional "speed" button on a memory list entry would be nice. Well, if you want additional items on your todo list ;-)

Jens

Yes, "LoadSeg" and AllocMem doesn't align to large enought block, have some code that tries to solve that but found problems with the CPU detection so it is not finished yet.

Interesting suggestion adding the possibility to run the code at any memory list entry. Will experiment with that while solving the alignment. Is it really neccessary to have it configurable, don't you always want it aligned if burstmode is supported?

[emufan]

can we have 1 or two more columns, in the speed comparisions area?
when running the speed test in winuae, some numbers of the results are purged,
since it is only 123.45 format - i would suggest 12345.67 .
the same for Mips/MFlops - you could print MFlops below Mips line.

#1) are those beta version public? i still use 4.0 made in 2012?!
-> found the beta

[Geijer]

Originally Posted by emufan

can we have 1 or two more columns, in the speed comparisions area?
when running the speed test in winuae, some numbers of the results are purged,
since it is only 123.45 format - i would suggest 12345.67 .
the same for Mips/MFlops - you could print MFlops below Mips line.

#1) are those beta version public? i still use 4.0 made in 2012?!
-> found the beta

Unfortunately it's not that simple, the values are overflowed/truncated in calculations. I'm working on it.

(Newer beta)

[emufan]

Originally Posted by Geijer

Unfortunately it's not that simple, the values are overflowed/truncated in calculations. I'm working on it.

(Newer beta)

that sounds good. thanks

[B14ck W01f]

I hope that this v4.0 release actually works on my 1084S-D2 monitor because it cracks the shits when I try to run the earlier release that is sitting on the A1200 hard drive.

Originally Posted by PortuguesePilot

Here: Uploaded it for you. Hope I'm not doing anything wrong...

http://www.filedropper.com/appsysinfov40

Hi, any chance you can re-up this? Is it best t use this one or the last original version released before this?

[Geijer]

Originally Posted by walterg74

Hi, any chance you can re-up this? Is it best t use this one or the last original version released before this?

Unfortunately I don't have the license required to distribute a adf version (setpatch etc. is required for compatibility).

I've been in contact with Cloanto and there is a solution in the works.

Originally Posted by Geijer

Unfortunately I don't have the license required to distribute a adf version (setpatch etc. is required for compatibility).

I've been in contact with Cloanto and there is a solution in the works.

Hi thanks for replying! Not sure what you mean about the license? Anyne can download off the author's site. I just don't know how to make a proper adf, which is why I was aksing if someone can upload it again as the previous link is broken.

[Geijer]

Originally Posted by walterg74

Hi thanks for replying! Not sure what you mean about the license? Anyne can download off the author's site. I just don't know how to make a proper adf, which is why I was aksing if someone can upload it again as the previous link is broken.

I own the rights to SysInfo but to make a proper ADF that will work on "all" amigas you need to include tools from the official Workbench disks like SetPatch. That's why I'm currently not able distribute an official SysInfo ADF.

I have done some testing and have a solution to make an official SysInfo ADF but need to solve the license issue This is how the Startup-Sequence currently looks like if you want to make one yourself. SetPatch_1x is C:SetPatch from a 1.3 installation and SetPatch_2x+ is the latest available one. SetPatch is required for SysInfo to work as expected on many expanded Amigas.

Echo ""
Version >NIL: 36 20
IF WARN
	Echo "	Running on Kickstart 1.x..."
	C:SetPatch_1x >NIL:
Else
	Version >NIL: 45 20
	IF WARN
		Echo "	Running on Kickstart 2.x, 3.0 or 3.1..."
		C:SetPatch_2x+ QUIET
	Else
		Echo "	Running on 3.X or newer..."
		C:SetPatch_2x+ NOROMUPDATE QUIET
	EndIF
EndIF

Assign T: RAM:

SYS:SysInfo/SysInfo

As I said, I am working with Cloanto, that owns the rights to the "Workbench" files, on how to solve this.

[idrougge]

I don't think any previous software makers, be they ASDG, Haage & Partner or magazine publishers, have felt the need to ask Cloanto or Commodore for permission to make a bootable floppy.

[Locutus]

I'm pretty sure you could write a script that constructs a functional workbench bootdisk just by wget'ing archives from aminet/amiga.resource.cx/etc and extracting the required binaries.

Hell that might actually be a hilarious joke to actually write..........

[ma693541]

Geijer, have you been looking here? Aminet or you can make some disks from here; Amiga911 Maker. Let us users build the disks if you go for the later solution.

[Jope]

Originally Posted by idrougge

I don't think any previous software makers, be they ASDG, Haage & Partner or magazine publishers, have felt the need to ask Cloanto or Commodore for permission to make a bootable floppy.

They did, actually. CATS was the point of contact to get a license, I believe.

[Superman]

Do a search on the EAB server and ye shall find.

[SnkBitten]

Maybe old news but I just discovered that ModePro promoting SysInfo to a 1024x768x8bit screenmode reports a higher score.

A4000T with WarpEngine 40Mhz and Cybervision 64/3d+scandoubler

NTSC:Hi-Res
Dhrystones 28750
Compared to A4000 1.57 times faster

ModePro promoted - Screenmode 1024x768x8bit, force Planar enabled
CVision:1024x768x8bit
Dhrystones 34919
Compared to A4000 1.91 times faster

Added the DblNTSC monitor, rebooted and ran again as SysInfo will open a DblNTSC screen if available.

DblNTSC:Hi-res no interlace
Dhrystones 28476
Compared to A4000 1.56 times faster

[zipper]

SysInfo is using Vblank as reference afaik and gives interesting results on RTG and other screens than PAL/NTSC.

[SnkBitten]

Originally Posted by zipper

SysInfo is using Vblank as reference afaik and gives interesting results on RTG and other screens than PAL/NTSC.

If that's the case I'll have to start promoting it on my real Amiga's, and WinUAE as well, as I have to promote it on Amithlon since it has no native modes.

I guess I'll use a 1024x768x8bit mode on all of them to balance the outcome as much as I can.

[daxb]

As you can see SysInfo isn`t a good choice. Try SysSpeed or similar program.

[SnkBitten]

Originally Posted by daxb

As you can see SysInfo isn`t a good choice. Try SysSpeed or similar program.

I use SysSpeed, SysInfo and DiskSpeed for testing. SysInfo was the one I used the most back in the days comparing my A2000, then upgraded to an '020 and my A4000 '040 upgraded to a 40Mhz version later on...

I just want to find a "consistent" baseline for each app to gauge the relative performance of machines/emulations.

[Jope]

Originally Posted by SnkBitten

I just want to find a "consistent" baseline for each app to gauge the relative performance of machines/emulations.

.. then forget sysinfo's benchmark. :-)