Lemmings on a single disk

[Hiddenevil]

I have about two or three of these laying around, two black and one white. I think the white disk came with my original A500.



The only trouble is both black disks have read write errors. I've managed to salvage the disks and get them error free. But had to format them in the process. The only trouble is now, I can't seem to find a copy of Lemmings on a single ADF nor can I copy from the working white disk, due to copy protection.



Yes I do have a hard drive in this A500+ BUT I would still like to have an original disk containing a copy of the game.


Anyone know if a copy of the single disk exists?

[BarryB]

There is a 1 disk IPF from the Commodore Promotion Pack but you'd need a Kryoflux to write it back!

[BippyM]

Originally Posted by BarryB

There is a 1 disk IPF from the Commodore Promotion Pack but you'd need a Kryoflux to write it back!

Or a greaseweazle F1 (costs a tenner)

[BarryB]

Maybe easier to ask if one of the regulars can crack the IPF to ADF?

[Mikerochip]

Personally, I'd go down the Greaseweazle route :P

You can then fix all games yourself, from now on!

[Hiddenevil]

True, but this is just for one disk. So if it was possible for someone to make an ADF, that would make more sense than buying something I might only use once.

[Hiddenevil]

Are there any guides on using a Greaseweazle? I had a look, but not found much.

[berke]

Is this a special version of Lemmings? The original Lemmings is 2 disks AFAIK, but "Oh No! More Lemmings" (which you can easily find online) is single disk.

[Amigajay]

Originally Posted by berke

Is this a special version of Lemmings? The original Lemmings is 2 disks AFAIK, but "Oh No! More Lemmings" (which you can easily find online) is single disk.

It was the pack-in game, to fit it on one disk the intro was removed and the 'special' levels and replaced with alternate levels using the standard gfx set.

[Mikerochip]

Originally Posted by Hiddenevil

Are there any guides on using a Greaseweazle? I had a look, but not found much.

You don't really need much.


The GW github has a wiki with some decent documentation.


You program it with the GW firmware, attach it to the disk drive, and use the gw.exe to write the image.


I made a small windows program too to make it more visual, but, if you're just writing one game you just need to run the following:


gw.exe write gamename.ipf


and that'll write the .ipf file to the disk.

[jotd]

**without any specific hardware**:

AFAIR the disk is copy protected only on track 1. The rest are tracks that you can use a warper on (those are not long track, they can be written back with a standard drive).

On WinUAE, mount ipf file (SPSID 270) then use wwarp (whdload package)

wwarp lemmings.wwp C 2-159

this creates image of tracks 2-159. wwarp recognizes psygnosis1 format.

then transport the wwp file on a real amiga and do:

wwarp lemmings.wwp W

This will write tracks 2 to 159 on your real disk, preserving boot & copylock on track 1.

(of course if track 1 is damaged you're toast but it's unlikely)

this method works on a lot of non dos disks.

[BippyM]

Originally Posted by Hiddenevil

Are there any guides on using a Greaseweazle? I had a look, but not found much.

I use greaseweazle gui, pop it in the same folder as greaseweazle. Avoids using commandline

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by jotd

**without any specific hardware**:

AFAIR the disk is copy protected only on track 1. The rest are tracks that you can use a warper on (those are not long track, they can be written back with a standard drive).

On WinUAE, mount ipf file (SPSID 270) then use wwarp (whdload package)

wwarp lemmings.wwp C 2-159

this creates image of tracks 2-159. wwarp recognizes psygnosis1 format.

then transport the wwp file on a real amiga and do:

wwarp lemmings.wwp W

This will write tracks 2 to 159 on your real disk, preserving boot & copylock on track 1.

(of course if track 1 is damaged you're toast but it's unlikely)

this method works on a lot of non dos disks.

Is the Commodore pack version the same level as protection as the original release? MFM, Copylock and checksums?

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Is the Commodore pack version the same level as protection as the original release? MFM, Copylock and checksums?

I believe so as far as the disk format, it's copylock + DMA DOS, not sure about checksums, that's your domain

[rare_j]

Originally Posted by Amigajay

It was the pack-in game, to fit it on one disk the intro was removed and the 'special' levels and replaced with alternate levels using the standard gfx set.

Is there any more info about this anywhere? I've only ever played the 1 disk version and had no idea it wasn't the full game (aside from the missing intro).

[Amigajay]

Originally Posted by rare_j

Is there any more info about this anywhere? I've only ever played the 1 disk version and had no idea it wasn't the full game (aside from the missing intro).

I laid out all the levels in my Lemmings book, the differences are in the attached picture, as you can see there was also a ‘Book Club’ version to confuse things further!

[rygar]

Originally Posted by Amigajay

I laid out all the levels in my Lemmings book, the differences are in the attached picture, as you can see there was also a ‘Book Club’ version to confuse things further!

And what about this?
Lemmings “Promo”: This was a promotional version of the game with levels dedicated to Commodore. There were 4 or 5 levels and were all based around Commodore logos. C= “Chicken Head”, “Commodore”, and the Amiga ‘A’.

[Amigajay]

Originally Posted by rygar

And what about this?
Lemmings “Promo”: This was a promotional version of the game with levels dedicated to Commodore. There were 4 or 5 levels and were all based around Commodore logos. C= “Chicken Head”, “Commodore”, and the Amiga ‘A’.

Unless you can find a copy, its one of those urban myths i think

[Radertified]

According to http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=4336, one of the developers of that demo contacted SPS about it, so it does exist.

stainy seems to have it according to that and this thread, he never ended up imaging it.

[Amigajay]

Yes i know there is threads about it, but until we have an image, one’s ‘memory’ could be far from the truth so to speak, i mean if he can’t image it at least take some photo’s or something!