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Can someone make a clone of Amy-ITX board and sell it to us under different name or generic branding hence reluctancy of the ppl behind it to make it available?
This board isn't copyrighted i think correct? I mean changing CPU to 50-75Mhz once would make this board already different from copyrights. Let's do this!? Can board be even copyrighted? Why not make this board open source if author does not want to go beyond hobby scope of making it. It actually pisses me off as he teased all of you guys with his webpage and essentially showed you middle finger now as you're not going to get it. Someone make a clone if they're not willing to make them. That's how things are done in real capitalism in America. Clones are made all the time with different products. Last edited by Rango; 29 October 2017 at 21:38. |
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If we are going to go full emulation, then two problems with Vampire V4-Standalone in my opinion:
1. Price 2. Compatability For under $100, I can get a Raspberry Pi3 running Amiberry/UAE4ARM that offers similar compatibility as the Vampire at nearly the same speed. The UAE Arm versions are only getting better/faster and more compatible every day. What benefit does the standalone Vampire V4 offer above/beyond that of the Rpi3? |
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What about cloning AMY-ITX board and replacing the CPU chip with 50 or 75Mhz version and then we don't have to care about copyrights if there are any as i don't think there are any in first place, hobby stated. Thoughts on this? Also what are your thoughts guys on this kit sold on a forum but i can't sing up on it as i don't know answers to the security question. One of the questions is: "Who introduced the first Amiga model at the big show" ? http://www.generationamiga.com/2016/...-kit-released/ |
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Try RJ Mical or Dale Luck for the question (yes I cheated).
That Project Red A500+ board is awesome but you have the usual problem of finding a decent condition case to do it justice and the A500 case is still restrictive expansion-wise. Most custom chips are still purchasable as old stock and I dread to think how many of them get thrown away because old boards become faulty for other reasons (old caps, faulty memory etc). If anything boards like Amy-ITX might encourage more recycling of the custom chips. I don't really see how Amiga Classic (or next gen for the that matter) is ever going to appeal to a wider audience, the Amiga community is mostly people who owned one originally and want to keep the dream alive. For everyone else they're about as much use as a mainframe from the 1950's, you aren't going to get people today wasting their time learning to use them. |
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For /Fun/ i've setup and written some simple applications for both Unisys MCP and Multics this year. So yes, old mainframe/minicomputer stuff actually has a big (more lively then Amiga) scene around it. |
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IANAL, but to me it seems the redrawn A500+ is a breach of copyright and making a new artwork based on existing schematics (Amy clone) is not.
The Amy clone naturally is a new work of art, the copyrighted to its creator(s). I'm basing this on 100% compatible IBM clones, the court battles have been fought and the problem was the code inside the BIOS ROM chip, not the PCB artwork. |
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I posted back in 2013. Time has flown!
So now this board is reality and I want one |
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Real hardware implementation of CPU and SAGA chipset (hardware runs in parallel, emulators have to try and do this in software that can lead to glitches under heavy loads or when the underlying OS is busy) I haven't used UAE4ARM so i don't know what the graphics and audio expansion options are like but SAGA extends the Amiga chipset to allow hardware banging hi-resolution 24bit graphics and soon 16 bit audio. |
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There's also the Checkmate 1500+ case in early development. Last edited by IanP; 30 October 2017 at 15:12. |
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Something like the MIST or MISTer project (using the AGA Minimig core) which is using the fully open source TG68 M68K soft core has a much better chance of developing into a standardized FPGA based amiga. You can set up your own FPGA Amiga using MISTer for under $200. |
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Ok, please wrap up the FPGA discussion, this thread was (and still should be) about a Mini-ITX board that takes the original custom chips.
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From what i've read on Amy-ITX webpage it seems like guy will never make this board available to rest of the community cause based on what he said the only reason he made 25 of those boards is to pay for his board cost and he has no time to produce these.
Which is why i'm saying someone should make a clone of this board as it's his hobby and not intention to produce this. It's really d1ck move to tease all of you with this idea and never make it available. My prediction is unless it's cloned, this is already dead in the tracks. |
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Yes agreed but watch the Shark Tank and pretty much every product is knocked off by changing one thing it no longer is original design. In this board case you change CPU specs meaning 50-75mhz and no longer IP would apply since it's differently speced board. Maybe change tracks location and then it's entirely different board. I'm just saying. Terrible fire should be interested in this. Since to other guy this was only hobby and he has no intention of generating revenue making clone of this board should be easy peasy legally wise. We all are doing this for hobby and not profit anyway so i don't see a problem.
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Why design a website if you're going to make 25 of those boards. What a d..... Might or might not, rest is wishful thinking. Not rip off. Someone suggested changing cpu specs to better the whole thing. You improve the product by changing few things and make it better and available to masses. This guy didn't satisfy neither. There is houndreds of IBM clones aka PC clones being made now. You are using one right now, typing from one now. Is that rip off as well? Last edited by Rango; 30 October 2017 at 20:17. |
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