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Old 15 October 2018, 22:49   #1
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How "new" can an A1200 be in 2018?

Hey guys, I'm very excited about (and interested in) all the work regarding the A1200 recently.

If I'm doing the math correctly, we have the following options for completely new components for an A1200, all of which to me are very cool:
  1. New caseworks from A1200.net (are there any more available?)
  2. New keys from A1200.net (available?) or the new exciting Kipper2k project
  3. New AmigaOS3.1.4 ROMs
  4. New power supply (what's the best option these days?)
  5. New ACA accelerators, or the upcoming Vampire V4
  6. New gotek floppy disk drive emulators
  7. New unpopulated A1200 motherboards from Chucky
  8. USB mouse adapters which work with new mice, as well as a KVM switch

It's possible to build a fairly new computer out of much of this, and really one would only need a donor motherboard to do so. I'm also aware the Vampire V4 could run standalone, which is something that interests me as well, but that's still a way out (AFAICT) and I'm more interested in what's possible now.

What else is out there? What other updates or addons are worth having in a wedge A1200 that is new and exciting?
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Old 15 October 2018, 23:33   #2
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Yep, that's pretty much an almost new computer other than the custom chips and perhaps the 23-pin connectors and power connector, which might need to be brought over from the donor board too. There are a couple of sources for new PSUs, one Polish one in particular that comes to mind but can't remember the name of... And after that you're onto what lovely extras you would like USB, Prisma Megamix, LED strips under the vents
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Old 16 October 2018, 01:39   #3
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Hey guys, I'm very excited about (and interested in) all the work regarding the A1200 recently.

If I'm doing the math correctly, we have the following options for completely new components for an A1200, all of which to me are very cool:
  1. New caseworks from A1200.net (are there any more available?)
  2. New keys from A1200.net (available?) or the new exciting Kipper2k project
  3. New AmigaOS3.1.4 ROMs
  4. New power supply (what's the best option these days?)
  5. New ACA accelerators, or the upcoming Vampire V4
  6. New gotek floppy disk drive emulators
  7. New unpopulated A1200 motherboards from Chucky
  8. USB mouse adapters which work with new mice, as well as a KVM switch

It's possible to build a fairly new computer out of much of this, and really one would only need a donor motherboard to do so. I'm also aware the Vampire V4 could run standalone, which is something that interests me as well, but that's still a way out (AFAICT) and I'm more interested in what's possible now.

What else is out there? What other updates or addons are worth having in a wedge A1200 that is new and exciting?

Hey, I see you're in US. Then you gotta have a look at Ray Carlsen's custom built high quality PSUs:
http://personalpages.tds.net/~rcarlsen/custom%20ps.html
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Old 16 October 2018, 08:02   #4
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I'm sure they're great power supplies, but unfortunately they're not very nice looking.
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Old 16 October 2018, 10:33   #5
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-power...PR3:rk:22:pf:0
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Old 19 October 2018, 20:54   #6
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If you don't want evilBay to get a cut, you can also buy here:

https://www.c64psu.com/

Don't be fooled by the url, they (he?) also sell A500/600/1200 compatible PSUs.
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Old 19 October 2018, 21:31   #7
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Hey, I see you're in US. Then you gotta have a look at Ray Carlsen's custom built high quality PSUs:
http://personalpages.tds.net/~rcarlsen/custom%20ps.html
I have a custom Amiga/C64/128 one from him, it's fantastic
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Old 19 October 2018, 23:13   #8
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What chips can we get new for an A1200?

Conversely, what is the list of chips we'd absolutely need from a "donor" A1200?
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Old 20 October 2018, 01:59   #9
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The main chips you absolutely need from a donor board or a NOS source are the custom chips (Alice, Lisa, Gayle, Budgie, Paula), the GAL, the keyboard MPU and the CIAs. Then there are ones that you might need to transplant because they could be difficult to get hold of from other sources: the 68020, the RAM, the video DAC. The rest of the parts should be possible to source new, or have newer alternatives available that may be used (e.g. the video encoder, audio op-amps). Some other bits might be hard to get hold of too, for example the oscillator crystals and some other video-related bits.
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Old 20 October 2018, 04:08   #10
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If you're looking to keep the original PSU case, these are dirty cheap now:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AC110V-220V...XTn45AHeYfj4zQ

Lots of people use these in various configurations to replace old commodore PSU internals. They're modern switched supplys so usually have some current clamping or such. I dont think there's any such protection in the original PSU's?

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Those supplies are often used by people for replacements PSUs for 8-bits, since they tend to just need a single 5V supply, sometimes with an AC supply for peripheral power. But for the Amiga's triple-rail requirements, something from this selection might be better suited. Still very cheap, and better than any 30-year-old Commodore supply.
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Those supplies are often used by people for replacements PSUs for 8-bits, since they tend to just need a single 5V supply, sometimes with an AC supply for peripheral power. But for the Amiga's triple-rail requirements, something from this selection might be better suited. Still very cheap, and better than any 30-year-old Commodore supply.
Oh perfect - might look at those myself. Currently I have an old uATX, a 500+, and the heavy 500 PSUs on my bench that I swap between.

(They all yield stability issues on something overclocked. )

Mind you the C= PSU's haven't been recapped. (I've opened them though, they look alright - i I know they could still be way off). Might do that next.

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Old 21 October 2018, 20:39   #13
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I'm doing similar...

A1200 with the new kickstart case
Blizzard 1230 V4 w/ 68030 @ 50Mhz, 128MB RAM + FPU
Getting the board recapped this week
GoTek drive instead of the floppy
64GB SD card on the IDE interface
Rapid Road USB
PCMCIA ethernet adapter
Building up a new PSU using the PicoPSU 90W setup (just waiting for the interface boards to become available in November)
AmigaRGB->SCART cable->HDMI adapter for hookup to modern LCD monitor.

Thinking about the Kipper2K keyboard replacement... We'll see...

Haven't had an Amiga in like 20 years, so now that I have one again I want to get it as close to maxed out as possible. And, yeah, if/when the Vampire comes that's a no brainer.
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Old 21 October 2018, 20:54   #14
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B1230 doesn't fit to the 'new' machine as well as old MB, although recapped.
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Old 21 October 2018, 21:04   #15
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Well it's what came with the 1200 when I bought it... Will do for now.. Still better than the stock original EC020!
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Yes, but still I think it doesn't fill the thread criteria.
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