A better spread of moderation powers..... - Page 4

Amiga1992 · 16 May 2018, 18:34

I see

Another idea without actually knowing specifics, but: if these bots register and post right away, how about having an extra "bot check" for new accounts that register and post within a minute (or two) from having finished registration?
Also: how about implementing Recaptcha?

lilalurl · 16 May 2018, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Also: how about implementing Recaptcha?

RCK already did that. The registration process uses the "I'm not a robot" variant.
One likely conclusion is that the spammers are not bots but human operators (at least for the registering process).

Amiga1992 · 16 May 2018, 20:24

Well whatever has just been done, didn't work

meynaf · 16 May 2018, 20:51

Just forbid posting links for newly created accounts. How would they bypass that ?

lilalurl · 16 May 2018, 20:54

The change was made some time ago.
We are aware that it does not prevent all spammers. At least we try to deal with the reported ones as quickly as possible.

gulliver · 16 May 2018, 21:29

It pisses me off these spammers popping up again and again. I keep reporting them every time.

Can I become a moderator just to help on this? I would like to help in quickly deleting spammers accounts and delete spam threads. I feel I need to do something else than whine about this, something more productive and contributing.

PeterK · 16 May 2018, 22:29

In post #25 I already ask why we don't send new users a fuzzy image of a registration key per email which they need for activating their new account? Isn't that possible with vBulletin or too dufficult? A fake email address won't help them much. RCK would only need a pregenerated table with registration keys and their images.

RCK · 17 May 2018, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

In post #25 I already ask why we don't send new users a fuzzy image of a registration key per email which they need for activating their new account? Isn't that possible with vBulletin or too dufficult? A fake email address won't help them much. RCK would only need a pregenerated table with registration keys and their images.

We already test this kind of protection, and our conclusion that they are not bots but real human paid to post such links on forums. (so they are reading their activation email and complete the registered process)
Maybe I could create a "newly registered" group for all new member, and they would not be allowed to post LINK (message body or sign) until they have something like 10 posts (they would be auto moved to usual "registered" group") ?
but I'm afraid it won't slow down the quantity of member to moderated, it's just that their new posts won't have links. just stupid text.

PeterK · 17 May 2018, 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCK

... so they are reading their activation email and complete the registered process.

And did they always use alias email addresses, so that blocking makes no sense? Blocking the whole domain for a certain time could be unfair for possible other new users at the same provider, but could help to keep the spammers out for a while. You could keep a whitelist with the email addresses of all the "good old" users and a blacklist with the domains of all known spammers.

Leffmann · 17 May 2018, 09:39

It's not the HTML links specifically that are annoying, but the fact that they spam... stopping them from posting HTML links won't change anything, they will just obfuscate the links and write the same large annoying posts.

Just hide their posts until admins approve them.

Ian · 17 May 2018, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCK

We already test this kind of protection, and our conclusion that they are not bots but real human paid to post such links on forums. (so they are reading their activation email and complete the registered process)
Maybe I could create a "newly registered" group for all new member, and they would not be allowed to post LINK (message body or sign) until they have something like 10 posts (they would be auto moved to usual "registered" group") ?
but I'm afraid it won't slow down the quantity of member to moderated, it's just that their new posts won't have links. just stupid text.

Set new users to have their first 5 posts moderated.

If your current mod team cannot find the time to do so, add someone as a spam mod and let them do it. It's annoying enough people, you already have Galahad, gulliver and myself offering our services on this.

As I said before no real new member is going to be upset about us trying to stop spam.

Other thn peoples time, there really isn't a downside to premoderation of new members posts.

ptyerman · 17 May 2018, 14:38

And another spam post. In the middle of the day too, this twat is deliberately taking the piss and laughing his head off over it! When is something going to be done about it? It's more than annoying now.

DamienD · 17 May 2018, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Set new users to have their first 5 posts moderated.

RCK did suggest in a thread about spam located the private GM section that maybe we should have to approve new members' posts.

...I think it's time to do this. Since December last year we have been cleaning / banning 10 - 20 per day

Ok, it's more work for GMs but not as much as constantly dealing with spammers.

ptyerman · 17 May 2018, 15:43

Yeah, I bet it's a real bind. This prat is sometimes posting several threads overnight so its bound to be grating first time you log on.
Something has to be done because nothing has worked up to now, ignoring the twonk and just deleting the posts hasn't worked so its time to get pro-active!

DamienD · 17 May 2018, 16:17

Since writing my last post above both myself and CodyJ must have dealt with at least 5 other spammers!!!

...the latest one to go: pofutmuy@bitwh

DamienD · 17 May 2018, 17:46

Next: yodux

...while it is still registering

Paul_s · 17 May 2018, 19:29

I have an idea to stop all this.

Change the default language of EAB to French (and French only) - they'll never be able to register if they don't understand the language

Unfortunately (for RCK) he will have to put all us uber-cool members into a French language course located in Paris so that we can login and talk again

The course will feature a breakfast (croissants with a selection of marmalades, strawberries and selection of coffee and teas). Lunch will also be served with the end of the day featuring a game of Fire and Ice with DamienDs hotrod.

DamienD · 17 May 2018, 19:37

Bahahahaha

Sounds like a plan and absolutely perfect. You've nailed it

DamienD · 17 May 2018, 19:41

Here's the next fool: AepbcZoort

It always ends it's membership name in "Zoort" and posts spam / URLs about casinos

...caught while "Users Awaiting Email Confirmation".

meynaf · 17 May 2018, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_s

I have an idea to stop all this.

Change the default language of EAB to French (and French only) - they'll never be able to register if they don't understand the language

Unfortunately (for RCK) he will have to put all us uber-cool members into a French language course located in Paris so that we can login and talk again

The course will feature a breakfast (croissants with a selection of marmalades, strawberries and selection of coffee and teas). Lunch will also be served with the end of the day featuring a game of Fire and Ice with DamienDs hotrod.

What a cool idea

If you do that i pay the croissants

16 May 2018, 20:24	#63
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16 May 2018, 18:34	#61
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I see Another idea without actually knowing specifics, but: if these bots register and post right away, how about having an extra "bot check" for new accounts that register and post within a minute (or two) from having finished registration? Also: how about implementing Recaptcha?

16 May 2018, 20:51	#64
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	Just forbid posting links for newly created accounts. How would they bypass that ?

16 May 2018, 20:54	#65
lilalurl Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 3,289	The change was made some time ago. We are aware that it does not prevent all spammers. At least we try to deal with the reported ones as quickly as possible.

16 May 2018, 21:29	#66
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	It pisses me off these spammers popping up again and again. I keep reporting them every time. Can I become a moderator just to help on this? I would like to help in quickly deleting spammers accounts and delete spam threads. I feel I need to do something else than whine about this, something more productive and contributing.

16 May 2018, 22:29	#67
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	In post #25 I already ask why we don't send new users a fuzzy image of a registration key per email which they need for activating their new account? Isn't that possible with vBulletin or too dufficult? A fake email address won't help them much. RCK would only need a pregenerated table with registration keys and their images.

17 May 2018, 09:39	#70
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	It's not the HTML links specifically that are annoying, but the fact that they spam... stopping them from posting HTML links won't change anything, they will just obfuscate the links and write the same large annoying posts. Just hide their posts until admins approve them.

17 May 2018, 14:38	#72
ptyerman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Worksop/UK Age: 59 Posts: 1,328	And another spam post. In the middle of the day too, this twat is deliberately taking the piss and laughing his head off over it! When is something going to be done about it? It's more than annoying now.

17 May 2018, 15:43	#74
ptyerman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Worksop/UK Age: 59 Posts: 1,328	Yeah, I bet it's a real bind. This prat is sometimes posting several threads overnight so its bound to be grating first time you log on. Something has to be done because nothing has worked up to now, ignoring the twonk and just deleting the posts hasn't worked so its time to get pro-active!

17 May 2018, 16:17	#75
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Since writing my last post above both myself and CodyJ must have dealt with at least 5 other spammers!!! ...the latest one to go: pofutmuy@bitwh

17 May 2018, 17:46	#76
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Next: yodux ...while it is still registering

17 May 2018, 19:29	#77
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	I have an idea to stop all this. Change the default language of EAB to French (and French only) - they'll never be able to register if they don't understand the language Unfortunately (for RCK) he will have to put all us uber-cool members into a French language course located in Paris so that we can login and talk again The course will feature a breakfast (croissants with a selection of marmalades, strawberries and selection of coffee and teas). Lunch will also be served with the end of the day featuring a game of Fire and Ice with DamienDs hotrod.

17 May 2018, 19:37	#78
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Bahahahaha Sounds like a plan and absolutely perfect. You've nailed it

17 May 2018, 19:41	#79
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Here's the next fool: AepbcZoort It always ends it's membership name in "Zoort" and posts spam / URLs about casinos ...caught while "Users Awaiting Email Confirmation".

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