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Who designed Paula?
I saw this on a music board...redering to bob yannes (c64 sid designer)...
"He later also designed the Amiga's PAULA, which pretty much reminds of a shrinked version of the DOC soundchip, which is the heart of SDP-1, Mirage, ESQ-1, and SQ80" I dont think this is right.....but I am not sure?? any ideas?? |
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It is not correct.. Bob Yannes wasn't involved in the Amiga's design in any way. It was a team totally outside CBM (and Yannes had left CBM anyway soon after the C-64 was completed in 82).
The Paula isn't really a synth chip at least not anything like the old Ensoniq synths or the SID chip. It only plays back samples. I'm afraid I can't help with the designer's name. Probably that's written in some Amiga history article on the net.. It could have been Jay Miner, but I only know for sure that Jay did the Agnus. |
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According to Wikipedia Jay Miner may have indeed designed and/or helped design at least the OCS at his days when Amiga was still a separate company from CBM
Scroll down to the bottom and find a link about Jay Miner. |
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thanks for the replys guys....very interesting stuff.
I think people tend to think that the amiga has a synth chip due to the chip tunes sounding very much like the sid? |
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Yeah, but isn't that what a Chip Tune is supposed to sound like, a synthesizer
It's much like the older ISA days for PC's when you purchased just a SB16 or similar sound card you got synth and not samples. You had to upgrade to a sample supported card like the SB32 or above or my favorite card at that time was the Ensoniq Soundscape. If you had to compare a synth tune vs. a sampled tune, there really is no comparison, unless of course you listen to them over the cheap ass puny speakers that many people still use today |
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Paula was Paula in the A1000.. It was Portia in the Lorraine prototype.
Also Denise was Daphne in the wire wrapped proto. The name Agnus comes from Agnus Dei, the Lamb of God.. Jay Miner seemed to be quite a religious fellow. |
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Also what i can remember, is that the chips were given aliases when the amiga was still in development by Hi-Toro to fool the competition.. and if someone could've heard over a phone conversation between the developers, it wouldn't give away the specs.. like: "How's denise/paula/gary doing?" like talking about a person instead of the particular chip inside the back-then "project amiga" later sold to commodore..
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With reference to the original post I'm firmly in agreement with Jope, the relevant facts are known i.e. Yannes had left C= after the SID was completed and that he never worked for Hi-Toro/Amiga.
What I think might have happened is that this quote (or one very similar): Quote:
By comparing the info from the Jay Miner interview that DrBong linked and the Amiga's patent application I think it would be fairly safe to say that the Paula chip was designed by Jay Miner, Joseph Decuir and Ronald Nicholson. |
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It's just that if you wanted your .MID tunes to sound nice, you had to get a wavetable card like the SB AWE32, or perhaps the Gravis Ultrasound or Roland MT-32. Midi was popular on the PC, because it offloaded the processing and mixing to the sound card. The early PCs didn't have too much horsepower to mix the samples with the CPU. That's the reason most old DOS demos want a Gravis Ultrasound, they didn't have CPU cycles available for mixing the MOD channels to stereo, and the Ultrasound was the only card back then that had also sample mixing in hardware. AdLib didn't do samples, it had FM synth only. Last edited by Jope; 13 September 2005 at 15:14. |
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PAULA: Peripheral And UART Logic Array AGNUS: Address Generator DENISE: Display ENable GARY: GAte arRaY Or have I just made that up? |
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GARY was designed at CBM by Dave Haynie, so it's name was probably designed to correspond to it's task from the beginning. :-) |
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