WinUAE Borders?

Kitty · 05 October 2009, 22:54

The picture below shows workbench, how do I get rid of the borders or stretch out the picture so it fits the screen properly as it would on a real Amiga?
This also happens on full screen and also in game too.
I have tried lots of different resolutions but its always the same no matter what one I choose

Retro-Nerd · 05 October 2009, 22:55

mouse right click --> workbench --> backdrop. Then save it with Window --> snapshot --> all.

TCD · 05 October 2009, 23:00

Hmm, never seen those when running in fullscreen. Have you tried to run fullscreen and set the filter to 'Null filter' -> 'Automatic resize' ?

Ian · 05 October 2009, 23:03

Thats not what Kitty means.

Easiest way is to set a filter in the filter section and set it to automatic scaling. (Probably setting it to automatic resize would be prefered in your situation, I use full screen so scaling is best for me)

Also turn off vertical and horizontal scaling.

Retro-Nerd · 05 October 2009, 23:04

You can change the viewable WB size in Prefs -> Overscan.

NewDeli · 05 October 2009, 23:05

Does this look like a backdrop (wallpaper for Amiga WB) to you, R-N

?

To me, it's simply that kitty didn't scale the WB he installed to fit its screen.

I guess this could help.

Retro-Nerd · 05 October 2009, 23:06

Backdrop disable the WB window completely. Use the overscan in prefs for a bigger viewable size. And yes, you can use the auto scaling/resize to eliminate the border completely, if you like this filter.

Kitty · 06 October 2009, 00:08

ok thats better, it looks great now in window and fullscreen, the only problem I have now is I cant use the scanlines like I used to before in fullscreen cause it looks a bit naff now, still at least I got rid of the borders.
Anyone know how I can get the scanline effect less harsh with the filter enabled on fullscreen?

Also I noticed when using the filter option after playing Rainbow Islands (WHDLoad Install) theres this after pixels on the workbench, any idea how to stop this happening?

TCD · 06 October 2009, 00:13

When you select the Direct3D filter you can set the scanline transparency, so make it less 'harsh'

.
Btw : Why use scanlines anyway?

Retro-Nerd · 06 October 2009, 00:16

Make sure that you've disabled Scanlines in Display --> Line Mode too.

Kitty · 06 October 2009, 00:17

I always thought that scanlines when actually playing games, makes the game less pixelated, I'm sure Amiga games never used to be that blocky, but back in the day we played them on an old television which would be similar to the scanline effect on the emulator.
Is there no way to download & import custom filters in winuae, similar to the ones you can use in mame32?

Retro-Nerd · 06 October 2009, 00:20

There are Mame similar filters, check again. If not, update your DirectX version.

OT: Scanlines FTW!!!!

DamienD · 06 October 2009, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

I always thought that scanlines when actually playing games, makes the game less pixelated, I'm sure Amiga games never used to be that blocky, but back in the day we played them on an old television which would be similar to the scanline effect on the emulator.

I agree with you kitty and use scanlines on all emulators that I have

You may want to read / vote on this old thread: Scanlines or NO scanlines?

TCD · 06 October 2009, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

I'm sure Amiga games never used to be that blocky, but back in the day we played them on an old television which would be similar to the scanline effect on the emulator.

It's the TV itself that is 'blurry'. Setting scanlines only 'blanks out' half of the lines, thus it's not really less pixelated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

Is there no way to download & import custom filters in winuae, similar to the ones you can use in mame32?

There are quite some in there already. On the filter panel use the drop-down box (yeah, I guess you already know that

). I not sure if there is a way to use custom filters.

OT : Bah, scanlines

NewDeli · 06 October 2009, 00:25

I understand you're more interested in playing games than reading documentation but just selecting the advice that seem the easiest to apply and think you'll be fine this way, eh ?

It's worthless to set a filter if you don't adjust your screen mode first accordingly to the display tab of WinUAE, and ultimately to your actual screen resolution for full screen mode.

Google Amiga screen modes, RTG, Picasso96. There should be some indications about all this in the official documentation too.

Kitty · 06 October 2009, 00:26

I have figured out what causes this, its not even after playing a game, when I load this config and change from fullscreen to window, its results in the picture below, weird huh?
Obviously theres a answer for this, dont do it! but its one of those hair pulling things that just bugs the crap out of you!

TCD · 06 October 2009, 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deleauvive

It's worthless to set a filter if you don't adjust your screen mode first accordingly to the display tab of WinUAE, and ultimately to your actual screen resolution for full screen mode.

No. Each game will use it's own 'screen mode'. No need to set it in WB because it will be ignored by the (WHDLoad) game anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

I have figured out what causes this, its not even after playing a game, when I load this config and change from fullscreen to window, its results in the picture below, weird huh?

Which config does cause this?

Kitty · 06 October 2009, 00:35

Well, seeing as I'm using beta16 and Toni said dont talk about Beta, should I post my config? lol

TCD · 06 October 2009, 00:37

Let's just say it doesn't happen here

Kitty · 06 October 2009, 00:39

I doubt its a bug in the beta, more likely the way I have something configured or something to do with my graphics card ..

05 October 2009, 22:54	#1
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	WinUAE Borders? The picture below shows workbench, how do I get rid of the borders or stretch out the picture so it fits the screen properly as it would on a real Amiga? This also happens on full screen and also in game too. I have tried lots of different resolutions but its always the same no matter what one I choose

05 October 2009, 23:06	#7
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,444	Backdrop disable the WB window completely. Use the overscan in prefs for a bigger viewable size. And yes, you can use the auto scaling/resize to eliminate the border completely, if you like this filter. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 05 October 2009 at 23:18.

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05 October 2009, 22:55	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,444	mouse right click --> workbench --> backdrop. Then save it with Window --> snapshot --> all.

05 October 2009, 23:00	#3
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,606	Hmm, never seen those when running in fullscreen. Have you tried to run fullscreen and set the filter to 'Null filter' -> 'Automatic resize' ?

05 October 2009, 23:03	#4
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	Thats not what Kitty means. Easiest way is to set a filter in the filter section and set it to automatic scaling. (Probably setting it to automatic resize would be prefered in your situation, I use full screen so scaling is best for me) Also turn off vertical and horizontal scaling.

05 October 2009, 23:04	#5
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,444	You can change the viewable WB size in Prefs -> Overscan.

05 October 2009, 23:05	#6
NewDeli Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paris / FRANCE Age: 50 Posts: 1,248	Does this look like a backdrop (wallpaper for Amiga WB) to you, R-N ? To me, it's simply that kitty didn't scale the WB he installed to fit its screen. I guess this could help.

06 October 2009, 00:08	#8
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	ok thats better, it looks great now in window and fullscreen, the only problem I have now is I cant use the scanlines like I used to before in fullscreen cause it looks a bit naff now, still at least I got rid of the borders. Anyone know how I can get the scanline effect less harsh with the filter enabled on fullscreen? Also I noticed when using the filter option after playing Rainbow Islands (WHDLoad Install) theres this after pixels on the workbench, any idea how to stop this happening?

06 October 2009, 00:13	#9
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,606	When you select the Direct3D filter you can set the scanline transparency, so make it less 'harsh' . Btw : Why use scanlines anyway?

06 October 2009, 00:16	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,444	Make sure that you've disabled Scanlines in Display --> Line Mode too.

06 October 2009, 00:17	#11
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	I always thought that scanlines when actually playing games, makes the game less pixelated, I'm sure Amiga games never used to be that blocky, but back in the day we played them on an old television which would be similar to the scanline effect on the emulator. Is there no way to download & import custom filters in winuae, similar to the ones you can use in mame32?

06 October 2009, 00:20	#12
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,444	There are Mame similar filters, check again. If not, update your DirectX version. OT: Scanlines FTW!!!!

06 October 2009, 00:25	#15
NewDeli Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paris / FRANCE Age: 50 Posts: 1,248	I understand you're more interested in playing games than reading documentation but just selecting the advice that seem the easiest to apply and think you'll be fine this way, eh ? It's worthless to set a filter if you don't adjust your screen mode first accordingly to the display tab of WinUAE, and ultimately to your actual screen resolution for full screen mode. Google Amiga screen modes, RTG, Picasso96. There should be some indications about all this in the official documentation too.

06 October 2009, 00:26	#16
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	I have figured out what causes this, its not even after playing a game, when I load this config and change from fullscreen to window, its results in the picture below, weird huh? Obviously theres a answer for this, dont do it! but its one of those hair pulling things that just bugs the crap out of you!

06 October 2009, 00:35	#18
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Well, seeing as I'm using beta16 and Toni said dont talk about Beta, should I post my config? lol

06 October 2009, 00:37	#19
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,606	Let's just say it doesn't happen here

06 October 2009, 00:39	#20
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	I doubt its a bug in the beta, more likely the way I have something configured or something to do with my graphics card ..

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