Airbus A320 V1.5GE

Gerry · 27 June 2016, 23:23

In case someone is interested in the latest version of Airbus A320, I recently got my hands on V1.5GE, which imho wasn't available online before.

Info about the update (in German):
http://thethalionsource.w4f.eu/Tests...Updatedisk.htm

Download:
http://thethalionsource.w4f.eu/Tests/A320_V15GE.rar

alexh · 29 June 2016, 08:07

Nice. Is this localised? I e is it English or German etc?

Gerry · 29 June 2016, 09:40

The game is in English.

BarryB · 29 June 2016, 12:49

Were any of the A320 Airbus disks ever copy protected?

Gerry · 29 June 2016, 14:07

Because you were depending on the included documentation and maps, I always thought the disk wasn't copy protected.

The update disk (at least as far as V1.4GE is concerned) was only sent to registered users and wasn't protected.

Point 5.1 of the V1.5GE README mentioned, "that you were able to make copies of the disk with a regular copy program. This was done as a sign of thanks and confidence for registered users."

DrBong · 29 June 2016, 17:21

@BarryB
What Gerry said. I have all of Rainer Bopf's A320 game releases and none were copy-protected IIRC. Why do you ask?

BarryB · 29 June 2016, 17:51

On one of my disks, SIMULATOR, track 79.0 has what looks to be protection as it's not a DOS track!

DrBong · 02 July 2016, 21:23

@BarryB
Just checked my copy and, I stand corrected, they've sneakily thrown in a long track as the last one on disk 2.

What significance does this have for the update disk, though? From what I can see, the update disk only relates to the boot disk (and presumably disk 2 is used as per normal?).

Edit: What I'd like to know is how many flippin' retail versions of A320 were released, and how many "updates" were only made available to registered users? Obviously I'm coming in from a general HOL and Amiga game nutter perspective!

Do you know Gerry? Anyone else? This is where SPS sometimes comes in handy, but there are no versions of A320 listed as preserved on their website.

BarryB · 02 July 2016, 21:32

The 1.5GE update is the whole game on 1 disk, you don't need disk 2, hence being allowed to make a backup so you can use that to write your pilot logs to! So that kind of confirms it WAS copy protected!

DrBong · 02 July 2016, 21:37

@BarryB
Ahhh, didn't pick up on that when I checked the update disk - good to know!

Wonder why Thalion didn't release the game on 1 disk to begin with if they could've to save on production costs?!? Bear in mind, if that's another stupid question, it's past 3am here and my brain's not working very well after a late night out!

BarryB · 02 July 2016, 22:11

Not sure why it wasn't put on 1 disk? Seems lots of games could have be put on 1 disk, just look at Atomic-RoboKid that Galahad recently put on 1 disk.

DrBong · 02 July 2016, 22:46

@BarryB
True, but Galahad needed to compress Atomic Robokid to one-disk it (lotsa one-disked games are the same). Bizarrely, the original release of A320 as is (without any need to crunch files) would have fit on to 1 disk instead of 2 disks. Seems the only reason that Thalion released it on 2 disks was to be less obvious about copy-protecting the game. Strange thinking - even for a niche licensed game - for mine!

BarryB · 02 July 2016, 23:21

Might be so they could charge more as it's an extra disk

Noticed SPS don't have this IPF'd yet due to the game needing to write to it, it won't play if the disk pilot log disk is write-protected

dlfrsilver · 03 July 2016, 02:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

On one of my disks, SIMULATOR, track 79.0 has what looks to be protection as it's not a DOS track!

Barry can you upload your dump please, i would like to get a look at it ?

BarryB · 03 July 2016, 12:45

Uploaded to my Onedrive Denis

emufan · 03 July 2016, 14:11

without a propper manual the game/simulation is impossible to play - just made my first attempt with this manual, and crashed before i could lift off

dlfrsilver · 03 July 2016, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Barry can you upload your dump please, i would like to get a look at it ?

Hello Barry,

i have checked your original, and both disks are seen as modified.

I can also confirm that disc 2 is indeed copy protected, it uses the Thalion key track, which is made of 35 sectors.

BarryB · 03 July 2016, 16:20

Disk 2 modified as well? The game should only save to the Pilot Log disk so what is modified on disk 2?

dlfrsilver · 03 July 2016, 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Disk 2 modified as well? The game should only save to the Pilot Log disk so what is modified on disk 2?

Thalion games are mostly seen as duplicated on an Amiga. Please upload on our FTP server your dump of A320 Airbus

BarryB · 03 July 2016, 19:04

Uploaded, ticket submitted for this and a few others!

27 June 2016, 23:23	#1
Gerry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cologne / Germany Posts: 213	Airbus A320 V1.5GE In case someone is interested in the latest version of Airbus A320, I recently got my hands on V1.5GE, which imho wasn't available online before. Info about the update (in German): http://thethalionsource.w4f.eu/Tests...Updatedisk.htm Download: http://thethalionsource.w4f.eu/Tests/A320_V15GE.rar

02 July 2016, 21:23	#8
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	@BarryB Just checked my copy and, I stand corrected, they've sneakily thrown in a long track as the last one on disk 2. What significance does this have for the update disk, though? From what I can see, the update disk only relates to the boot disk (and presumably disk 2 is used as per normal?). Edit: What I'd like to know is how many flippin' retail versions of A320 were released, and how many "updates" were only made available to registered users? Obviously I'm coming in from a general HOL and Amiga game nutter perspective! Do you know Gerry? Anyone else? This is where SPS sometimes comes in handy, but there are no versions of A320 listed as preserved on their website. Last edited by DrBong; 02 July 2016 at 21:50.

02 July 2016, 21:37	#10
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	@BarryB Ahhh, didn't pick up on that when I checked the update disk - good to know! Wonder why Thalion didn't release the game on 1 disk to begin with if they could've to save on production costs?!? Bear in mind, if that's another stupid question, it's past 3am here and my brain's not working very well after a late night out! Last edited by DrBong; 02 July 2016 at 22:12.

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29 June 2016, 08:07	#2
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Nice. Is this localised? I e is it English or German etc?

29 June 2016, 09:40	#3
Gerry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cologne / Germany Posts: 213	The game is in English.

29 June 2016, 12:49	#4
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Were any of the A320 Airbus disks ever copy protected?

29 June 2016, 14:07	#5
Gerry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cologne / Germany Posts: 213	Because you were depending on the included documentation and maps, I always thought the disk wasn't copy protected. The update disk (at least as far as V1.4GE is concerned) was only sent to registered users and wasn't protected. Point 5.1 of the V1.5GE README mentioned, "that you were able to make copies of the disk with a regular copy program. This was done as a sign of thanks and confidence for registered users."

29 June 2016, 17:21	#6
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	@BarryB What Gerry said. I have all of Rainer Bopf's A320 game releases and none were copy-protected IIRC. Why do you ask?

29 June 2016, 17:51	#7
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	On one of my disks, SIMULATOR, track 79.0 has what looks to be protection as it's not a DOS track!

02 July 2016, 21:32	#9
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	The 1.5GE update is the whole game on 1 disk, you don't need disk 2, hence being allowed to make a backup so you can use that to write your pilot logs to! So that kind of confirms it WAS copy protected!

02 July 2016, 22:11	#11
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Not sure why it wasn't put on 1 disk? Seems lots of games could have be put on 1 disk, just look at Atomic-RoboKid that Galahad recently put on 1 disk.

02 July 2016, 22:46	#12
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	@BarryB True, but Galahad needed to compress Atomic Robokid to one-disk it (lotsa one-disked games are the same). Bizarrely, the original release of A320 as is (without any need to crunch files) would have fit on to 1 disk instead of 2 disks. Seems the only reason that Thalion released it on 2 disks was to be less obvious about copy-protecting the game. Strange thinking - even for a niche licensed game - for mine!

02 July 2016, 23:21	#13
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Might be so they could charge more as it's an extra disk Noticed SPS don't have this IPF'd yet due to the game needing to write to it, it won't play if the disk pilot log disk is write-protected

03 July 2016, 12:45	#15
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Uploaded to my Onedrive Denis

03 July 2016, 14:11	#16
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	without a propper manual the game/simulation is impossible to play - just made my first attempt with this manual, and crashed before i could lift off

03 July 2016, 16:20	#18
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Disk 2 modified as well? The game should only save to the Pilot Log disk so what is modified on disk 2?

03 July 2016, 19:04	#20
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Uploaded, ticket submitted for this and a few others!

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