Any reason why many games require two save disks ?

SquawkBox · 29 April 2021, 16:50

A general question here, feel free to move topic if it's not at the right place. Why do many Amiga games require two (2) save disks ? I may have the wrong idea, but if it's just a matter of writing multiple times a few kbs to a floppy disk, how come that single formatted (or unformatted) disk would not suffice to save one's progress from start to finish ? Any thoughts ?

Since I play mostly action games, I am not used to save a lot when I emulate. On top of that, memory is fuzzy, I can't tell for sure if I ever needed to format two blank disks to save my progress, let alone one, by the time I had my first miggy during the late 80's.

dreadnought · 29 April 2021, 17:38

Are you sure there were many such games? I can't recall any tbh, and I played a lot of save-requiring games.

-Acid- · 29 April 2021, 18:40

There is?! please name some of these games that need 2 disks to save, it'd be interesting to know since I can't think of any.

SquawkBox · 29 April 2021, 19:04

I've based my analysis on the fact that DamienD collection contains two save disk images for quite a few games :
Altered Destiny, Ishar II, Simon the Sorceror etc.
If I can part with the second save disk for those games that are among my favorites, all for the better. So maybe I should have asked DD the reason why he did this, my mistake. That would be nice of him or of some contributor to enlighten me about the purpose of this if, I may ask.

Matt_H · 29 April 2021, 19:13

I suspect the explanation is that DamienD included saves at lots of different points within the games, so many that multiple disks were needed. None of these games "require" multiple save disks.

DamienD · 29 April 2021, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

I've based my analysis on the fact that DamienD collection contains two save disk images for quite a few games :
Altered Destiny, Ishar II, Simon the Sorceror etc.
If I can part with the second save disk for those games that are among my favorites, all for the better. So maybe I should have asked DD the reason why he did this, my mistake. That would be nice of him or of some contributor to enlighten me about the purpose of this if, I may ask.

After reading the thread title I instantly knew you were talking about my collection.

No game requires 2 x save disk. I have 2 though as some games will only allow say 5 saves...

SquawkBox · 29 April 2021, 20:52

@Matt_H
I don't think DD's save disks include any actual game progress.

@DD
Ah now I get it, it consists in offering us a second save disk image handy when the first one is full. Since I plan to use some of these disks for my Gotek which, as you may know allow limited slots allocation, I'll just use a single one. I might consider adding a second disk image case-by-case for extremely hard games.

While we're at it, how does high score get saved for shmups and such, generally speaking ? Let's assume someone saves his / her highscore on the game disk, and the disk is an original. Does the game loses some value compared to an unaltered original ?

DamienD · 29 April 2021, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

@Matt_H
I don't think DD's save disks include any actual game progress.

No they don't, but Matt_H's assumption was correct

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquawkBox

@DD
Ah now I get it, it consists in offering us a second save disk image handy when the first one is full.

Yes exactly, I'm always thinking ahead... and usually you only find these 2 x save disks with adventure games

SquawkBox · 30 April 2021, 09:27

Well, I am not sure Mother Goose hero faces that many perils during his quest to reassemble the mixed-up nursery rhymes, but I get the idea

. I just checked, and it seems your collection is missing Curse Of the Azure Bonds save disk.
Indeed, my question was aimed at DD collection and not at games in general. Please mods, change the thread title accordingly.

29 April 2021, 16:50	#1
SquawkBox Speedbump gimme goosebump Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: France Age: 50 Posts: 773	Any reason why many games require two save disks ? A general question here, feel free to move topic if it's not at the right place. Why do many Amiga games require two (2) save disks ? I may have the wrong idea, but if it's just a matter of writing multiple times a few kbs to a floppy disk, how come that single formatted (or unformatted) disk would not suffice to save one's progress from start to finish ? Any thoughts ? Since I play mostly action games, I am not used to save a lot when I emulate. On top of that, memory is fuzzy, I can't tell for sure if I ever needed to format two blank disks to save my progress, let alone one, by the time I had my first miggy during the late 80's.

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29 April 2021, 17:38	#2
dreadnought Registered User Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Ur, Atlantis Posts: 1,899	Are you sure there were many such games? I can't recall any tbh, and I played a lot of save-requiring games.

29 April 2021, 18:40	#3
-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	There is?! please name some of these games that need 2 disks to save, it'd be interesting to know since I can't think of any.

29 April 2021, 19:04	#4
SquawkBox Speedbump gimme goosebump Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: France Age: 50 Posts: 773	I've based my analysis on the fact that DamienD collection contains two save disk images for quite a few games : Altered Destiny, Ishar II, Simon the Sorceror etc. If I can part with the second save disk for those games that are among my favorites, all for the better. So maybe I should have asked DD the reason why he did this, my mistake. That would be nice of him or of some contributor to enlighten me about the purpose of this if, I may ask.

29 April 2021, 19:13	#5
Matt_H Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 943	I suspect the explanation is that DamienD included saves at lots of different points within the games, so many that multiple disks were needed. None of these games "require" multiple save disks.

29 April 2021, 20:52	#7
SquawkBox Speedbump gimme goosebump Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: France Age: 50 Posts: 773	@Matt_H I don't think DD's save disks include any actual game progress. @DD Ah now I get it, it consists in offering us a second save disk image handy when the first one is full. Since I plan to use some of these disks for my Gotek which, as you may know allow limited slots allocation, I'll just use a single one. I might consider adding a second disk image case-by-case for extremely hard games. While we're at it, how does high score get saved for shmups and such, generally speaking ? Let's assume someone saves his / her highscore on the game disk, and the disk is an original. Does the game loses some value compared to an unaltered original ?

30 April 2021, 09:27	#9
SquawkBox Speedbump gimme goosebump Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: France Age: 50 Posts: 773	Well, I am not sure Mother Goose hero faces that many perils during his quest to reassemble the mixed-up nursery rhymes, but I get the idea . I just checked, and it seems your collection is missing Curse Of the Azure Bonds save disk. Indeed, my question was aimed at DD collection and not at games in general. Please mods, change the thread title accordingly.

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