Playing without joystick using keyboard

_ThEcRoW · 24 April 2006, 21:31

Hello friends, just an easy question: Is possible to play any game with whdload using for example the cursor keys as joystick? I'm talking about a real amiga, no emulation. The reason i'm asking this is because some time ago i bought a second a1200 mobo and that was without the "mouse" port. At the moment i'm using a utility called setmport to map mouse to the joy port and can't connect a joystick because i have no ports left. I know i can shut the amiga off and unplug and plug joy/mouse but this is a hassle, and since i don't mind using the keyboard for games i'm asking if it is possible. On aminet i have found utilities to do the opposite(mapping keys to joy on wb games), but i'm asking for substituting completely the joystick for the cursor keys for example.

_ThEcRoW · 25 April 2006, 15:36

Bump!

Calgor · 25 April 2006, 16:16

As an alternative, there are some hardware mouse/joystick adapters which can do the switching for you without unplugging. Sometimes available on ebay quite cheaply.

Not sure if it is safe to use the switch while the amiga is on though, which would defeat your purpose....

As for the software switch, I suppose that could be handy just like winuae, and a few games play easier on keyboard

Ironclaw · 25 April 2006, 17:40

I prefer playing all my emu games on the keyboard.

_ThEcRoW · 26 April 2006, 02:37

Yeah, could be interesting a software switch as you says Calgor, without the need of a hardware (and risky to it with system on) switch.
Also some games are just more playable with keyboard than on joysticks.

adolescent · 26 April 2006, 07:08

Why not just add the port back in. You can do it for about $2 in parts (or find someone with a dead A1200 to sell you the piece).

stainy · 26 April 2006, 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironclaw

I prefer playing all my emu games on the keyboard.

Hell yeah, 16 years ago I made this

Still use it today for all my Kick Off 2 tornament needs

red key is down btw

classic Q W O K and SPACE layout

kriz · 26 April 2006, 15:02

I never shutted my Amiga off when I needed to switch to joystick
/mouse!

_ThEcRoW · 26 April 2006, 15:37

You were a lucky man!!. Connecting and discopnnecting peripherals while the Amiga is on is very risky!!! You can end with a burned chip (cia, for example).

kriz · 27 April 2006, 01:19

hehe i guess i am

I still do it, now on a A4000 hehe..

Codetapper · 27 April 2006, 08:17

Short answer to this is no - every single game would need to be patched to allow keyboard controls. And in multiload games you might have to patch every different section of the game. That's a hell of a lot of work.

Asman · 28 April 2006, 12:14

So everything is possible, but much more time is needed. I want add to games pached by me keyboard handler. Now keyboard is supported in EmeraldMine (2 players both) and Nibby Nibble. In these games also keyboard is fully configurated, thats mean you can choose keys used in game. Ofcoz you can use keyboard in The Lost Vikings but isn't perfect. Generally adding keyboard to every game isn't easy and requaired much more time.

_ThEcRoW · 28 April 2006, 16:09

Looks like the only alternative is winuae.... or getting a megadrive pad for commodity gaming.

24 April 2006, 21:31	#1
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Playing without joystick using keyboard Hello friends, just an easy question: Is possible to play any game with whdload using for example the cursor keys as joystick? I'm talking about a real amiga, no emulation. The reason i'm asking this is because some time ago i bought a second a1200 mobo and that was without the "mouse" port. At the moment i'm using a utility called setmport to map mouse to the joy port and can't connect a joystick because i have no ports left. I know i can shut the amiga off and unplug and plug joy/mouse but this is a hassle, and since i don't mind using the keyboard for games i'm asking if it is possible. On aminet i have found utilities to do the opposite(mapping keys to joy on wb games), but i'm asking for substituting completely the joystick for the cursor keys for example.

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25 April 2006, 15:36	#2
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Bump!

25 April 2006, 16:16	#3
Calgor (Amigas && Amigos)++ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anrea Posts: 999	As an alternative, there are some hardware mouse/joystick adapters which can do the switching for you without unplugging. Sometimes available on ebay quite cheaply. Not sure if it is safe to use the switch while the amiga is on though, which would defeat your purpose.... As for the software switch, I suppose that could be handy just like winuae, and a few games play easier on keyboard

25 April 2006, 17:40	#4
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	I prefer playing all my emu games on the keyboard.

26 April 2006, 02:37	#5
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Yeah, could be interesting a software switch as you says Calgor, without the need of a hardware (and risky to it with system on) switch. Also some games are just more playable with keyboard than on joysticks.

26 April 2006, 07:08	#6
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	Why not just add the port back in. You can do it for about $2 in parts (or find someone with a dead A1200 to sell you the piece).

26 April 2006, 15:02	#8
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,188	I never shutted my Amiga off when I needed to switch to joystick /mouse!

26 April 2006, 15:37	#9
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	You were a lucky man!!. Connecting and discopnnecting peripherals while the Amiga is on is very risky!!! You can end with a burned chip (cia, for example).

27 April 2006, 01:19	#10
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,188	hehe i guess i am I still do it, now on a A4000 hehe..

27 April 2006, 08:17	#11
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Short answer to this is no - every single game would need to be patched to allow keyboard controls. And in multiload games you might have to patch every different section of the game. That's a hell of a lot of work.

28 April 2006, 12:14	#12
Asman 68k Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 828	So everything is possible, but much more time is needed. I want add to games pached by me keyboard handler. Now keyboard is supported in EmeraldMine (2 players both) and Nibby Nibble. In these games also keyboard is fully configurated, thats mean you can choose keys used in game. Ofcoz you can use keyboard in The Lost Vikings but isn't perfect. Generally adding keyboard to every game isn't easy and requaired much more time.

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28 April 2006, 16:09	#13
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Looks like the only alternative is winuae.... or getting a megadrive pad for commodity gaming.