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Old 01 January 2021, 22:19   #641
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It wouldn't be so bad if they just sold kits. Great product let down by AOTL. They'll be losing so much business from people who don't want to wait 2 years and even if you ordered today the A1200.net keyboard will probably be available before it gets delivered.
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Old 01 January 2021, 22:49   #642
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I can't understand why they won't just sell them as kits to be assembled by the user, with no warranty. Soldering one of these together could even be accomplished by the most ham-fisted of n00bs.
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Old 04 January 2021, 18:58   #643
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It wouldn't be so bad if they just sold kits. Great product let down by AOTL. They'll be losing so much business from people who don't want to wait 2 years and even if you ordered today the A1200.net keyboard will probably be available before it gets delivered.
Kits would probably help. But to be fair AOTL has been great for regular orders of In Stock items. It is just with the keyboards that are experiencing delays because of the time involved that apparently was underestimated.

As for the A1200.net keyboard, I wouldn't hold my breath because the A1200.net keycaps and what not have been delayed for some time now. Add that to the fact that some of the keycaps had quality issues that should have never been shipped to customers and that is messy too.
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Old 08 January 2021, 01:52   #644
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Kippers Hardware page doesn't seem to be up n running.
(A visit to kipper2k.com returns a "Not Authorized to View This Page [CFN #0004] " Anyone knows where Kipper2k is? Is he OK? What's going on?
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Old 08 January 2021, 03:21   #645
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Honestly people are complaining about how slow AOTL are but i ordered my keyboard from A1200.net a month or so before this one, i received my kipper kb 9 months ago and still no sign of A1200.net anytime soon.
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Old 08 January 2021, 13:56   #646
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I pledged on December 2016 for 2 set of keycaps from a1200.net. Some time later I did the same for 2 Amiga 500 cases...and still waiting!
However, I like a1200.net communication which keeps us updated about eventual problems they cope with. I suppose AotL are missing communication.
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Old 08 January 2021, 15:54   #647
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Kippers Hardware page doesn't seem to be up n running.
(A visit to kipper2k.com returns a "Not Authorized to View This Page [CFN #0004] " Anyone knows where Kipper2k is? Is he OK? What's going on?
Pleased to say he's fine, just not doing direct hardware sales anymore as doesn't have the time or energy to do so.

As such anything cool he comes up with is farmed out, in this case AOTL took the project on. He was involved in design and development (as was mkstr), but in terms of manufacture it's AOTL dealing with all that.
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Pleased to say he's fine, just not doing direct hardware sales anymore as doesn't have the time or energy to do so.

As such anything cool he comes up with is farmed out, in this case AOTL took the project on. He was involved in design and development (as was mkstr), but in terms of manufacture it's AOTL dealing with all that.
Thanx for the info, I'm glad he's ok.I guess its a good thing for him to get rid of projects that take too much energy and personal effort.
However, its curious none of his previous stuff is listed on the Kipper2 section of the AOTL site.
http://amigaonthelake.com/kipper2k/
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I looked at both a1200.net and AOTL projects. Not seeing a website update of the a1200.net keyboard since 2017! I know it took near 2 years for my keycaps and case to arrive from their kickstarter, but that update from so long ago now wouldnt fill me with any hope.

AOTL doesnt seem to be taking pre orders or anything for their keyboard. Does anyone know if Kipper's design is still going on sale there at any point in the future?
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I know it took near 2 years for my keycaps and case to arrive from their kickstarter, but that update from so long ago now wouldnt fill me with any hope.
You got keycaps? Lucky you - I am still waiting for mine.
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Old 04 March 2021, 13:44   #651
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You got keycaps? Lucky you - I am still waiting for mine.
Same here.
Ordered in 2017.

And now I won't even get the colors I ordered.
What a shit show.
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Old 04 March 2021, 14:14   #652
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You got keycaps? Lucky you - I am still waiting for mine.
Looking around the net I think you're right! I had backed the project way back and got the first batch. There were QA issues though and never got a replacement key for one that was misprinted! Think they also promised a floppy drive button for the cases but that never materialised either. Still, got a replacement set and thankful for that.

Think the keys are still on their way though, their blog is never updated but the campaign updates are more recent and tell of manufacture issues and possible delays well into 2021. Feel for anyone who missed out, the waiting is insane.

Sadly these kind of things will just put off anyone wanting to start a similar project.
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Old 04 March 2021, 14:44   #653
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Same here.
Ordered in 2017.

And now I won't even get the colors I ordered.
What a shit show.
Ditto, my colour choices were partially dropped, and they stil haven't been delivered anyway.
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Old 06 March 2021, 18:31   #654
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I preordered back in 2018 and am still waiting. I've been told a couple of times that I would receive it the next month, but I never receive anything. This may very well be the worst customer service that I have ever experienced.

I learned to never preorder anything again.
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Old 06 March 2021, 21:04   #655
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Well I would LOVE a new keyboard, but reading all of this just puts me off. Waiting since 2017? Yikes!
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As it seems to be the case with a lot of these Amiga products that go to retail, poor planning and a serious under-estimation of demand is usually the issue. It's a shame since it means that the majority of Amiga users will never get their hands on any of them.
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