What can I do with this...ZorRAM

amiman99 · 08 June 2010, 01:59

Its a 128MB RAM card for Zorro III Amigas from AmigaKit. So the question is, what software I can use which require so much ram in A3000 040? The problem is, that Amiga can get by on few megs of ram. I would like to buy it, but is it worth it at $155
http://cgi.ebay.com/ZorRAM-128MB-Fas...item255b233ef5
Some 3D rendering sw might use it, but it's so slow....
Cool factor?
Any suggestions????

killergorilla · 08 June 2010, 02:05

Why would you like to buy it if you've no idea what you'll use it for?

amiman99 · 08 June 2010, 05:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Why would you like to buy it if you've no idea what you'll use it for?

I guess, I want to justify the purchase somehow, I don't know....

killergorilla · 08 June 2010, 10:02

Well I suggest that you don't bother.

Spend your money on something worthwhile.

amigakit.com · 08 June 2010, 13:18

@amiman99

Why buy ZorRAM from Ebay when you can buy it directly from us here: http://www.amigakit.us/product_info.php?products_id=958

ZorRAM is useful if you are using your Amiga with larger memory consuming programs such as Pagestream, Ghostscript, TV Paint, FX-Scan/Scanquix, Lightwave, Wordworth/Final Writer

alexh · 08 June 2010, 13:28

Some demos which require more than 16Mbyte Fast RAM, but without an 060 CPU you cannot run too many of them.

mihcael · 08 June 2010, 21:16

Why buy zoram at all? (well it is cheaper) but,

Mediator + ATI 9200 + 256MB
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/a...p?storyid=5465

cosmicfrog · 08 June 2010, 22:14

ow now thats just got me all tempted, Thanks mihcael great heads up

in answer to the original question
Q. What can I do with this...ZorRAM

A. Plug it in an A3000 or A4000

alexh · 08 June 2010, 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by mihcael

Mediator + ATI 9200 + 256MB
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/a...p?storyid=5465

If you don't have a Zorro III gfx card then that could be a good deal.

Brosol · 09 June 2010, 00:02

In regards to the A3000 unlike the ZorRAM, the Elbox option would mean spending extra to move the motherboard to a tower case (if you don't care about keeping the original A3000 case).

DDNI · 09 June 2010, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigakit.com

@amiman99

Why buy ZorRAM from Ebay when you can buy it directly from us here: http://www.amigakit.us/product_info.php?products_id=958

ZorRAM is useful if you are using your Amiga with larger memory consuming programs such as Pagestream, Ghostscript, TV Paint, FX-Scan/Scanquix, Lightwave, Wordworth/Final Writer

Is the ebay seller "amigakit_dot_com"unrelated to you then?

TCD · 09 June 2010, 00:12

Guess that's what the 'directly' is hinting at

No problem with getting all the attention first and I'm sure he'll include a link to buy directly from AmigaKit for the buyer.

Zetr0 · 09 June 2010, 00:56

the ZorRAM is a great bit of kit, and bumps up the use of the A3640 and A3630 Accelerator Adapter cards as these particular cards DONT have any fast RAM.

Because of this the A3640 and A3630 rely on the motherboard FastRam, which I believe has a slower access speed compared to Zorro3 Memory like the ZorRAM and DKB128 even the Z3Fastlane (although pending on your Buster revision the later two cards may have issues).

With the ZorRAM you can bestay the need for an accelerator card with memory as well as provide a faster FAST RAM access for the accelerator.

If you are into writing / sequencing / tracking music modules with lots of 16bit stereo samples with a need to enjoy on your internal Z2/Z3 sound card then 128MB of RAM will be a boon indeed.

So a ZorRAM 128 (or more) would be a huge boost if you own one of following

Blizzard 4030 (030@40/50) 8 - 9.1 MIPS aprx
PowerChanger 040 (40mhz) 040 (slow Motherboard FASTRAM access) - 28MIPS aprx*
QuadDoubler 50 (Doubler 4000) - (upto 50mhz 040 adapter for the A3640) 32MIPS aprx

*the power changer doesn't support 040 burst ram access

when you look at it in terms of cost-effectiveness, £160 would get you 128MB of Z3 RAM and atleast an 040@25Mhz, for what you use it for, it simply comes down to your imagination =D

amigakit.com · 09 June 2010, 01:11

@Zetro

Just a quick correction to your post: £99 gets you 128MB, £155 gets you 256MB

amiman99 · 09 June 2010, 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

the ZorRAM is a great bit of kit, and bumps up the use of the A3640 and A3630 Accelerator Adapter cards as these particular cards DONT have any fast RAM.

Because of this the A3640 and A3630 rely on the motherboard FastRam, which I believe has a slower access speed compared to Zorro3 Memory like the ZorRAM and DKB128 even the Z3Fastlane (although pending on your Buster revision the later two cards may have issues).

With the ZorRAM you can bestay the need for an accelerator card with memory as well as provide a faster FAST RAM access for the accelerator.

If you are into writing / sequencing / tracking music modules with lots of 16bit stereo samples with a need to enjoy on your internal Z2/Z3 sound card then 128MB of RAM will be a boon indeed.

So a ZorRAM 128 (or more) would be a huge boost if you own one of following

Blizzard 4030 (030@40/50) 8 - 9.1 MIPS aprx
PowerChanger 040 (40mhz) 040 (slow Motherboard FASTRAM access) - 28MIPS aprx*
QuadDoubler 50 (Doubler 4000) - (upto 50mhz 040 adapter for the A3640) 32MIPS aprx

*the power changer doesn't support 040 burst ram access

when you look at it in terms of cost-effectiveness, £160 would get you 128MB of Z3 RAM and atleast an 040@25Mhz, for what you use it for, it simply comes down to your imagination =D

Looks like I got a bunch of replies...

anyway...
I don't have any of those upgrades

and I guess I might invest in a video card instead.

Paul_s · 09 June 2010, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by amiman99

Its a 128MB RAM card for Zorro III Amigas from AmigaKit. So the question is, what software I can use which require so much ram in A3000 040? The problem is, that Amiga can get by on few megs of ram. I would like to buy it, but is it worth it at $155
http://cgi.ebay.com/ZorRAM-128MB-Fas...item255b233ef5
Some 3D rendering sw might use it, but it's so slow....
Cool factor?
Any suggestions????

Before you know it you'll have spent £1000 pimping your 4000!

I dunno, depends on what you want it to do? Demo's would be cool I guess but you need some added horsepower in other areas.... If it's going to be for occasional rendering or the later demos I'd just stick to winuae for cost....

10 years ago I'd have gone the hardware route but winuae does have its benefits where cost is concerned

Plus with the insane processors available these days its a no brainer...

1time · 09 June 2010, 19:53

Why do people buy new 20" wheels for a car, when it probably would perform even better with 15" wheels?
If you are a fan of big ass wheels that could be used on a jumbo-jet, it would probably make sense.

If you are a fan of Amiga retro computers, 256mb ram in my beloved A4000 would make perfect sense.

This question sounds like something my father would ask me when I tried to explain why we needed a US Robotics HST 16.8 instead of my U.S. Robotics Sportster 14.4.

My answer was: I'm a sysop, its so important that my life almost depends on it. In the end, I don't think I had any user that ever connected at 16.8, but I was damn proud of my shiny new modem.

amiman99 · 10 June 2010, 04:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_s

Before you know it you'll have spent £1000 pimping your 4000!

I dunno, depends on what you want it to do? Demo's would be cool I guess but you need some added horsepower in other areas.... If it's going to be for occasional rendering or the later demos I'd just stick to winuae for cost....

10 years ago I'd have gone the hardware route but winuae does have its benefits where cost is concerned

Plus with the insane processors available these days its a no brainer...

I would love to have PPC board on my A3000, but it's so damn expensive!!! For the price of one PPC board I could buy 2-3 G4 imacs..., anyway...

TjLaZer · 10 June 2010, 06:36

Yes this card is most suited for the C= accels that had no mem on them. Or the ones that wanna pimp out their rig with some additional ram!

Pyromania · 10 June 2010, 07:27

Aladdin 4D 5.x will take advantage of it.

08 June 2010, 01:59	#1
amiman99 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX USA Age: 50 Posts: 1,184	What can I do with this...ZorRAM Its a 128MB RAM card for Zorro III Amigas from AmigaKit. So the question is, what software I can use which require so much ram in A3000 040? The problem is, that Amiga can get by on few megs of ram. I would like to buy it, but is it worth it at $155 http://cgi.ebay.com/ZorRAM-128MB-Fas...item255b233ef5 Some 3D rendering sw might use it, but it's so slow.... Cool factor? Any suggestions????

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08 June 2010, 02:05	#2
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Why would you like to buy it if you've no idea what you'll use it for?

08 June 2010, 10:02	#4
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Well I suggest that you don't bother. Spend your money on something worthwhile.

08 June 2010, 13:18	#5
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,015	@amiman99 Why buy ZorRAM from Ebay when you can buy it directly from us here: http://www.amigakit.us/product_info.php?products_id=958 ZorRAM is useful if you are using your Amiga with larger memory consuming programs such as Pagestream, Ghostscript, TV Paint, FX-Scan/Scanquix, Lightwave, Wordworth/Final Writer

08 June 2010, 13:28	#6
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Some demos which require more than 16Mbyte Fast RAM, but without an 060 CPU you cannot run too many of them.

08 June 2010, 21:16	#7
mihcael Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aussie Posts: 1,144	Why buy zoram at all? (well it is cheaper) but, Mediator + ATI 9200 + 256MB http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/a...p?storyid=5465

08 June 2010, 22:14	#8
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	ow now thats just got me all tempted, Thanks mihcael great heads up in answer to the original question Q. What can I do with this...ZorRAM A. Plug it in an A3000 or A4000

09 June 2010, 00:02	#10
Brosol Brosol Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 85	In regards to the A3000 unlike the ZorRAM, the Elbox option would mean spending extra to move the motherboard to a tower case (if you don't care about keeping the original A3000 case).

09 June 2010, 00:12	#12
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	Guess that's what the 'directly' is hinting at No problem with getting all the attention first and I'm sure he'll include a link to buy directly from AmigaKit for the buyer.

09 June 2010, 00:56	#13
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	the ZorRAM is a great bit of kit, and bumps up the use of the A3640 and A3630 Accelerator Adapter cards as these particular cards DONT have any fast RAM. Because of this the A3640 and A3630 rely on the motherboard FastRam, which I believe has a slower access speed compared to Zorro3 Memory like the ZorRAM and DKB128 even the Z3Fastlane (although pending on your Buster revision the later two cards may have issues). With the ZorRAM you can bestay the need for an accelerator card with memory as well as provide a faster FAST RAM access for the accelerator. If you are into writing / sequencing / tracking music modules with lots of 16bit stereo samples with a need to enjoy on your internal Z2/Z3 sound card then 128MB of RAM will be a boon indeed. So a ZorRAM 128 (or more) would be a huge boost if you own one of following Blizzard 4030 (030@40/50) 8 - 9.1 MIPS aprx PowerChanger 040 (40mhz) 040 (slow Motherboard FASTRAM access) - 28MIPS aprx* QuadDoubler 50 (Doubler 4000) - (upto 50mhz 040 adapter for the A3640) 32MIPS aprx *the power changer doesn't support 040 burst ram access when you look at it in terms of cost-effectiveness, £160 would get you 128MB of Z3 RAM and atleast an 040@25Mhz, for what you use it for, it simply comes down to your imagination =D

09 June 2010, 01:11	#14
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,015	@Zetro Just a quick correction to your post: £99 gets you 128MB, £155 gets you 256MB

09 June 2010, 19:53	#17
1time Amiga Lover Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 612	Why do people buy new 20" wheels for a car, when it probably would perform even better with 15" wheels? If you are a fan of big ass wheels that could be used on a jumbo-jet, it would probably make sense. If you are a fan of Amiga retro computers, 256mb ram in my beloved A4000 would make perfect sense. This question sounds like something my father would ask me when I tried to explain why we needed a US Robotics HST 16.8 instead of my U.S. Robotics Sportster 14.4. My answer was: I'm a sysop, its so important that my life almost depends on it. In the end, I don't think I had any user that ever connected at 16.8, but I was damn proud of my shiny new modem.

10 June 2010, 06:36	#19
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	Yes this card is most suited for the C= accels that had no mem on them. Or the ones that wanna pimp out their rig with some additional ram!

10 June 2010, 07:27	#20
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	Aladdin 4D 5.x will take advantage of it.

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