If I could exterminate two kinds of people

Walker · 27 January 2003, 21:00

1. Leechers. HOL is down. Thanks a lot, idiots.

2. Virus makers. Thanks to you, I hardly got no sleep at all this weekend and missed a lot of nice IRC conversations. I hate you.

Drake1009 · 27 January 2003, 21:33

Sad to see HOL is down because of the leechers.

And what virus did you get Walker and how? I think I might've gotten one yesterday evening, at any rate my Win2k setup won't load anymore not that I really care what that hunk of junk does.

Walker · 27 January 2003, 21:41

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake1009
And what virus did you get Walker and how? I think I might've gotten one yesterday evening, at any rate my Win2k setup won't load anymore not that I really care what that hunk of junk does.

I didn't get any myself, but our customers (I work with server support and management) were hit by the SQL Slammer Worm and I worked day and night patching servers.

Ian · 27 January 2003, 21:44

say what now, the HOL has been leeched ...... AGAIN!!!??? (Assuming that's what that idiot was doing when RCK was in Thailand)

Twistin'Ghost · 27 January 2003, 21:47

/me is confused (and shocked!)

Drake1009 · 27 January 2003, 22:13

Sorry to hear that Walker. That thing is annoying or so I hear. And it's like 6 months old, is patched long time ago.

Twistin'Ghost · 27 January 2003, 22:14

What is the story on HOL and the leechers? Is HOL closed for good now?

Ian · 27 January 2003, 22:18

I doubt it'll be closed for good, not after all the work you guys have put into it.

I knew this would happen though, it sucks. Hopefully RCK can find a way to stop these f*ckw*ts in there tracks.

CodyJarrett · 27 January 2003, 22:20

The first leecher stole 7.73 GB of bandwidth last week while RCK was away.

The second leecher got 982.43 MB today before RCK shut down the HOL.

RCK is working on the problem, so hopefully the HOL will only be down for a couple of days.

It's not an issue of us owning the screenshots or box scans, because we don't. The issue is about individuals taking advantage of RCK's goodwill in running the server for free - these people hog all the bandwidth, which should be shared between everybody.

Also, I don't want to see someone taking all the images and using them on their own website, complete with pop-up adverts and a nice profit for them.

Fred the Fop · 27 January 2003, 22:34

The double barrels, how large are all of them combined?

CodyJarrett · 27 January 2003, 22:37

About 130Mb. The boxscans are the big files.

Mr Creosote · 27 January 2003, 22:52

Umm.... what kind of leeching is this? Has someone downloaded the whole site and put the images up on his own site or did anyone used direct image links?

CodyJarrett · 27 January 2003, 22:57

People are downloading the whole site, but I haven't seen the images on any other website.

Mr Creosote · 27 January 2003, 23:06

People are just too stupid to understand the consequences of their actions

Fred the Fop · 27 January 2003, 23:18

RCK, Walker, Cody, Twist and the rest of you HOL fellers. How about you guys ask webmasters/administrators of other image heavy database sites how they cope with the leeching? They may offer some useful info. Take www.thelegacy.de
for example!

Codetapper · 28 January 2003, 05:49

I'm sure Hippee/BTTR can help RCK - he has coded lots of things which stop robots and leechers. Some kind of detection to see that it's a bot leeching rather than "random" human browsing.

Just to begin with, could you make each person that accesses HOL require a login/password and use the EAB one? That way robots would never be able to get in and leech the site.

28 January 2003, 08:06

mhm, guess RCK can make the HOL archive only for abime members, that you have to be registered at the forum to enter... and you enter you're forum nick and passw to enter?

Fred the Fop · 28 January 2003, 08:18

I don't agree, Code and Solid. That would limit HOL to 600 people. I'd guess Twist and the gang would like potentially millons to able to access their labour of love. But yeah, try Hippie 2000 and Mishra of Legacy. Also, let's not forget the great www.retrobase.de/. Ask these guys, they have massive image DB's and aare still up. Something can be done without resorting to desperate measures. Logical, no?

CodyJarrett · 28 January 2003, 08:22

abime.net also hosts a lot of other things too e.g. EAB, the Zone, Kaillera, WHDLoad program downloads, WinUAE website etc.

Paul · 28 January 2003, 09:22

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake1009 HOL is down because of the leechers.

It’s a shame someone would spoil it for everyone else

Hope RCK can find a way to stop them doing this.

27 January 2003, 21:00	#1
Walker Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 51 Posts: 595	If I could exterminate two kinds of people 1. Leechers. HOL is down. Thanks a lot, idiots. 2. Virus makers. Thanks to you, I hardly got no sleep at all this weekend and missed a lot of nice IRC conversations. I hate you.

28 January 2003, 05:49	#16
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Hippee^2000 can help! I'm sure Hippee/BTTR can help RCK - he has coded lots of things which stop robots and leechers. Some kind of detection to see that it's a bot leeching rather than "random" human browsing. Just to begin with, could you make each person that accesses HOL require a login/password and use the EAB one? That way robots would never be able to get in and leech the site.

28 January 2003, 08:18	#18
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	I don't agree, Code and Solid. That would limit HOL to 600 people. I'd guess Twist and the gang would like potentially millons to able to access their labour of love. But yeah, try Hippie 2000 and Mishra of Legacy. Also, let's not forget the great www.retrobase.de/. Ask these guys, they have massive image DB's and aare still up. Something can be done without resorting to desperate measures. Logical, no? Last edited by Fred the Fop; 28 January 2003 at 09:27.

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27 January 2003, 21:33	#2
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Sad to see HOL is down because of the leechers. And what virus did you get Walker and how? I think I might've gotten one yesterday evening, at any rate my Win2k setup won't load anymore not that I really care what that hunk of junk does.

27 January 2003, 21:44	#4
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	say what now, the HOL has been leeched ...... AGAIN!!!??? (Assuming that's what that idiot was doing when RCK was in Thailand)

27 January 2003, 21:47	#5
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	/me is confused (and shocked!)

27 January 2003, 22:13	#6
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Sorry to hear that Walker. That thing is annoying or so I hear. And it's like 6 months old, is patched long time ago.

27 January 2003, 22:14	#7
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	What is the story on HOL and the leechers? Is HOL closed for good now?

27 January 2003, 22:18	#8
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	I doubt it'll be closed for good, not after all the work you guys have put into it. I knew this would happen though, it sucks. Hopefully RCK can find a way to stop these fckwts in there tracks.

27 January 2003, 22:20	#9
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	The first leecher stole 7.73 GB of bandwidth last week while RCK was away. The second leecher got 982.43 MB today before RCK shut down the HOL. RCK is working on the problem, so hopefully the HOL will only be down for a couple of days. It's not an issue of us owning the screenshots or box scans, because we don't. The issue is about individuals taking advantage of RCK's goodwill in running the server for free - these people hog all the bandwidth, which should be shared between everybody. Also, I don't want to see someone taking all the images and using them on their own website, complete with pop-up adverts and a nice profit for them.

27 January 2003, 22:34	#10
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	The double barrels, how large are all of them combined?

27 January 2003, 22:37	#11
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	About 130Mb. The boxscans are the big files.

27 January 2003, 22:52	#12
Mr Creosote Evil Mastermind Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Home Posts: 740	Umm.... what kind of leeching is this? Has someone downloaded the whole site and put the images up on his own site or did anyone used direct image links?

27 January 2003, 22:57	#13
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	People are downloading the whole site, but I haven't seen the images on any other website.

27 January 2003, 23:06	#14
Mr Creosote Evil Mastermind Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Home Posts: 740	People are just too stupid to understand the consequences of their actions

27 January 2003, 23:18	#15
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	RCK, Walker, Cody, Twist and the rest of you HOL fellers. How about you guys ask webmasters/administrators of other image heavy database sites how they cope with the leeching? They may offer some useful info. Take www.thelegacy.de for example!

28 January 2003, 08:06	#17
-SolidSnake- Posts: n/a	mhm, guess RCK can make the HOL archive only for abime members, that you have to be registered at the forum to enter... and you enter you're forum nick and passw to enter?

28 January 2003, 08:22	#19
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	abime.net also hosts a lot of other things too e.g. EAB, the Zone, Kaillera, WHDLoad program downloads, WinUAE website etc.

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