Atari ST to Commodore 1084s monitor

Anemos · 10 November 2008, 13:12

The schematic.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTUrzYtS-b4[/youtube]

Thalion · 10 November 2008, 19:50

Erm sorry to sa but this is definately the Wrong Place to post Atari things. Even if its interesting from a technical point of view but i doubt that many of the people here can put that knowledge to any good use.

Anemos · 10 November 2008, 20:52

well,we leave the administrators to decide

prowler · 10 November 2008, 23:09

I really can't see any problem with threads of this kind.

If nobody is interested, then no-one will view it.

However, this thread's already had 46 views.

Graham Humphrey · 11 November 2008, 00:15

Well this is the Retrogaming General Discussion section so no problem at all

Thalion · 11 November 2008, 01:50

I don't have a problem with this thread in general but i guess in an Atari Forum it would be better suited.

jharrison · 11 November 2008, 04:33

sorry for a potentially dumb question, but what benefit does this serve. i own a 1040st (ntsc) hooked up to a tv.

T_hairy_bootson · 11 November 2008, 05:41

RGB monitors such as the 1084 are much crisper than similar sized TVs and allow you to tweak the screen size and position. Also using a larger modern TV might not be practical if you set up the ST on a desk.

Good work Anemos, many of us have 1084s and some of us have Atari STs hidden away... not me... well... only two... but don't tell anyone...

mfletcher · 11 November 2008, 07:06

Nice pics Anemos!

I dont see any problem with this thread being here; the Amiga vs Atari ST wars are long over, and besides, the hardware has been cheap enough for a long time for folks to own both machines (*)

I find the folks over on Atari Forum http://www.atari-forum.com to be a quite friendly bunch... you could share your link with them too?

(*) When I was a boy, I remember Atari ST's and Amiga were 400 quid each! YAARRRRR.

jharrison · 11 November 2008, 07:07

i'm seriously interested in obtaining a monitor, if this somehow corrects screen flickering caused by games in pal mode.

Anemos · 11 November 2008, 08:36

I did not want to create any problem.
I already have made thread in the Atari-forum.
Simply I thought that perhaps they is interest and here, after it concerns Commodore monitor.

keropi · 11 November 2008, 08:38

it is good that Anemos post this info here, I cannot understand WHY would anyone objects to that!
Today, in 2008, most people lurking here have more than one machine make, this kind of info is always welcome!

T_hairy_bootson · 11 November 2008, 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jharrison

i'm seriously interested in obtaining a monitor, if this somehow corrects screen flickering caused by games in pal mode.

Are you in Melbourne? Perhaps you want to buy some genuine Atari monitors from me?

Paul_s · 11 November 2008, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_hairy_bootson

Good work Anemos, many of us have 1084s and some of us have Atari STs hidden away... not me... well... only two... but don't tell anyone...

heretic! Burn him!

AmigaFriend · 11 November 2008, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

it is good that Anemos post this info here, I cannot understand WHY would anyone objects to that!
Today, in 2008, most people lurking here have more than one machine make, this kind of info is always welcome!

Yes indeed we have

Harrison · 11 November 2008, 15:56

Blasphemy! An ST connected to Commodore hardware!

:

Anemos · 11 November 2008, 16:00

Who knows, perhaps in end they are wedded already...

prowler · 12 November 2008, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jharrison

sorry for a potentially dumb question, but what benefit does this serve. i own a 1040st (ntsc) hooked up to a tv.

@jharrison:

No, it's not a dumb question. If you are happy with the Atari's sound and display on your TV, then there is no benefit to be had with the monitor alternative.

If your TV is connected to the 1040ST's RF modulated output (assuming it has one), then there is a good chance you will get better definition from a monitor.

If, however, you have your TV connected via an RGB-SCART cable to the 1040ST's monitor output, then there may be little to gain.

The Commodore 1084S monitor, like the Atari SC1435, also provides audio output in stereo, so, like the TV, it's an all-in-one solution.

FYI (from the respective handbooks):

Atari SC1435 14-inch monitor display resolution is 640 x 200 pixels, character resolution is 2000 (80 x 25 rows), raster frequency is 50Hz (220-240VAC) or 60Hz (120VAC) and stereo audio output is 1 watt, 5% distortion.

Amiga 1084S 14-inch (13-inch viewing area) monitor display resolution is 640 x 256 pixels or 640 x 512 (interlaced), character resolution is 2000 (80 x 25 rows), raster frequency is 50Hz (220-240VAC) and stereo audio output is 1 watt RMS per channel, 5% distortion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jharrison

i'm seriously interested in obtaining a monitor, if this somehow corrects screen flickering caused by games in pal mode.

If you have concerns about screen flickering with games in PAL mode, the Commodore display is fully compliant with the PAL standard.

The Atari display is "for use with all Atari ST, STE and other Atari PC compatible computers".

Note that I am not recommending either of these monitors as best suited for use with your 1040ST; these are the only ones I have user manuals for.

Good luck, whatever you decide.

Marcuz · 12 November 2008, 01:06

i think that the 1084s is still the best CRT monitor i have ever owned, i miss that perfect image and crisp and powerful audio...
cool thread Anemos!

Anemos · 12 November 2008, 01:36

yes this monitor is best,and with quality stereo sound..

some small photos..

10 November 2008, 13:12	#1
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10 November 2008, 19:50	#2
Thalion Amiga Collector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 679	Erm sorry to sa but this is definately the Wrong Place to post Atari things. Even if its interesting from a technical point of view but i doubt that many of the people here can put that knowledge to any good use.

10 November 2008, 20:52	#3
Anemos 70X7 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ἑλλάς Posts: 1,078	well,we leave the administrators to decide

10 November 2008, 23:09	#4
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	I really can't see any problem with threads of this kind. If nobody is interested, then no-one will view it. However, this thread's already had 46 views.

11 November 2008, 00:15	#5
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Well this is the Retrogaming General Discussion section so no problem at all

11 November 2008, 01:50	#6
Thalion Amiga Collector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 679	I don't have a problem with this thread in general but i guess in an Atari Forum it would be better suited.

11 November 2008, 04:33	#7
jharrison Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: australia Posts: 97	sorry for a potentially dumb question, but what benefit does this serve. i own a 1040st (ntsc) hooked up to a tv.

11 November 2008, 05:41	#8
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 2,084	RGB monitors such as the 1084 are much crisper than similar sized TVs and allow you to tweak the screen size and position. Also using a larger modern TV might not be practical if you set up the ST on a desk. Good work Anemos, many of us have 1084s and some of us have Atari STs hidden away... not me... well... only two... but don't tell anyone...

11 November 2008, 07:06	#9
mfletcher Bawbag. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 375	Nice pics Anemos! I dont see any problem with this thread being here; the Amiga vs Atari ST wars are long over, and besides, the hardware has been cheap enough for a long time for folks to own both machines () I find the folks over on Atari Forum http://www.atari-forum.com to be a quite friendly bunch... you could share your link with them too? () When I was a boy, I remember Atari ST's and Amiga were 400 quid each! YAARRRRR.

11 November 2008, 07:07	#10
jharrison Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: australia Posts: 97	i'm seriously interested in obtaining a monitor, if this somehow corrects screen flickering caused by games in pal mode.

11 November 2008, 08:36	#11
Anemos 70X7 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ἑλλάς Posts: 1,078	I did not want to create any problem. I already have made thread in the Atari-forum. Simply I thought that perhaps they is interest and here, after it concerns Commodore monitor.

11 November 2008, 08:38	#12
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	it is good that Anemos post this info here, I cannot understand WHY would anyone objects to that! Today, in 2008, most people lurking here have more than one machine make, this kind of info is always welcome!

11 November 2008, 15:56	#16
Harrison classicamiga.com Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Age: 50 Posts: 155	Blasphemy! An ST connected to Commodore hardware! :

11 November 2008, 16:00	#17
Anemos 70X7 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ἑλλάς Posts: 1,078	Who knows, perhaps in end they are wedded already...

12 November 2008, 01:06	#19
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	i think that the 1084s is still the best CRT monitor i have ever owned, i miss that perfect image and crisp and powerful audio... cool thread Anemos!

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Anemos 70X7 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ἑλλάς Posts: 1,078	yes this monitor is best,and with quality stereo sound.. some small photos..

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