Non-working titles

Supamax · 03 January 2009, 01:57

Hi Toni,

I have some game releases (cracked versions) which run fine on my A500/600HD, but they make WinUAE crash...
Do you think it would be useful/interesting if I uploaded them to The Zone for inspection?

laser · 03 January 2009, 04:41

upload them I will check

Toni Wilen · 03 January 2009, 08:49

Usually it is better to mention names.. (and do you really mean winuae crashing, not emulated Amiga crashing? winuae crashing = totally wrong configuration)

Supamax · 03 January 2009, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Usually it is better to mention names.. (and do you really mean winuae crashing, not emulated Amiga crashing? winuae crashing = totally wrong configuration)

Hi Toni, nice to hear from you!

Sorry, I wasn't accurate; you're right on both subjects:
1) I didn't mean "winuae crashing"; I meant "emulated Amiga crashing"
2) In a few minutes I'll upload some .adf. I didn't mention names, you're right, but for a reason: during these days/month I dumped more than 800 floppies (and more to do) and I couldn't remember yesterday the exact names of the "crashing" titles. I appended to the last one's name something like "doesn't work on winuae. I'll check later", so I can found it easy today. About the other titles I'll make a quick search on my directories and add/upload them ASAP.

Thanks for your work,
Massimo

Supamax · 03 January 2009, 19:25

Ok, I uploaded Encounter.
More examples to come, as soon as I remember where I put them (and their names)

This (trained) copy is dumped from my real floppy. I don't know if it can be found in Tosec.
However... I can load it perfectly with my two "real" A500's and my A600HD.

But if I load it in WinUAE it gives me a black screen as soon as the trainer menu loads

Why??

Note: my WinUAE configurations are perfect, tried with thousands and thousands programs.

Retro-Nerd · 03 January 2009, 19:45

Disable "Cycle Exact" Blitter and Encounter works fine.

TCD · 03 January 2009, 19:54

This version isn't in TOSEC yet

The Skid Row boot screen is removed and a file named 'hehhe' is in the startup-sequence.

formater · 03 January 2009, 19:59

In general when a program don't work in WinUAE, is a good idea to use the quickstart configuration by the differents models provided by Toni in WinUAE. This resolve the mayor part of problems

Retro-Nerd · 03 January 2009, 20:03

But in this case it's pretty simple. Disable Cycle exact and it works. So the Quickstart wouldn't help here.

Toni Wilen · 03 January 2009, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

But in this case it's pretty simple. Disable Cycle exact and it works. So the Quickstart wouldn't help here.

Perhaps you should try Quickstart again.

Toni Wilen · 03 January 2009, 20:35

Encounter: it has buggy trainer, changes blitter register when blit is active but it does not cause problems on real Amiga. Fix was simple.

Supamax · 03 January 2009, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Disable "Cycle Exact" Blitter and Encounter works fine.

Uhm... strange!
I never thought to disable it, because the more compatible mode is obtained with the option *active*.

Supamax · 03 January 2009, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Encounter: it has buggy trainer, changes blitter register when blit is active but it does not cause problems on real Amiga. Fix was simple.

Hi again, Toni.
Thanks for the explanation.
What do you mean with "Fix was simple"? Do you refer to the disabling of the "Cycle exact" option, or to something else?

Thanx,
Massimo

Retro-Nerd · 03 January 2009, 20:45

Indeed a buggy trainer. The original SPS image works flawless with A500 quickstart mode.

TCD · 03 January 2009, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Indeed a buggy trainer. The original SPS image works flawless with A500 quickstart mode.

The strange thing is that this version also works with quickstart (cycle exact checked) and has the same trainer : http://www.planetemu.net/?section=ro...wrom&id=329900

Retro-Nerd · 03 January 2009, 21:03

Really? Doesn't work for me with standard quickstart mode. Maybe you used other settings with enabled exact blitter?

TCD · 03 January 2009, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Really? Doesn't work for me with standard quickstart mode. Maybe you used other settings with enabled exact blitter?

Yup, sorry. I used the ECS Angus quickstart for both and this one works with cycle exact enabled while the one Supamax put in the zone doesn't. With the most common both disks don't work. Sometimes there are interesting side effects

Supamax · 09 January 2009, 06:01

I uploaded to the Zone another one:
- Space Harrier (+T)

(again, a dump of my floppy. I don't know if it's in Tosec)

This works with WinFellow, though.
In WinUAE the loading halts on track 24... very strange.

P.S. I always make double-dumps and then check them bit-per-bit with UltraEdit-32. So, errors in the .adf images are excluded.

Retro-Nerd · 09 January 2009, 15:22

This Space Harrier version works, if you select Chipset --> Chipset Extra --> Generic.

Supamax · 09 January 2009, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

This Space Harrier version works, if you select Chipset --> Chipset Extra --> Generic.

But... but... I tried many options!!
I'm going to check at once.

03 January 2009, 01:57	#1
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Non-working titles Hi Toni, I have some game releases (cracked versions) which run fine on my A500/600HD, but they make WinUAE crash... Do you think it would be useful/interesting if I uploaded them to The Zone for inspection?

09 January 2009, 06:01	#18
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	I uploaded to the Zone another one: - Space Harrier (+T) (again, a dump of my floppy. I don't know if it's in Tosec) This works with WinFellow, though. In WinUAE the loading halts on track 24... very strange. P.S. I always make double-dumps and then check them bit-per-bit with UltraEdit-32. So, errors in the .adf images are excluded. Last edited by Supamax; 09 January 2009 at 06:09.

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03 January 2009, 04:41	#2
laser Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Argentina Age: 51 Posts: 648	upload them I will check

03 January 2009, 08:49	#3
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,517	Usually it is better to mention names.. (and do you really mean winuae crashing, not emulated Amiga crashing? winuae crashing = totally wrong configuration)

03 January 2009, 19:25	#5
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Ok, I uploaded Encounter. More examples to come, as soon as I remember where I put them (and their names) This (trained) copy is dumped from my real floppy. I don't know if it can be found in Tosec. However... I can load it perfectly with my two "real" A500's and my A600HD. But if I load it in WinUAE it gives me a black screen as soon as the trainer menu loads Why?? Note: my WinUAE configurations are perfect, tried with thousands and thousands programs.

03 January 2009, 19:45	#6
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	Disable "Cycle Exact" Blitter and Encounter works fine.

03 January 2009, 19:54	#7
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,608	This version isn't in TOSEC yet The Skid Row boot screen is removed and a file named 'hehhe' is in the startup-sequence.

03 January 2009, 19:59	#8
formater Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alicante/Spain Posts: 192	In general when a program don't work in WinUAE, is a good idea to use the quickstart configuration by the differents models provided by Toni in WinUAE. This resolve the mayor part of problems

03 January 2009, 20:03	#9
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	But in this case it's pretty simple. Disable Cycle exact and it works. So the Quickstart wouldn't help here.

03 January 2009, 20:35	#11
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,517	Encounter: it has buggy trainer, changes blitter register when blit is active but it does not cause problems on real Amiga. Fix was simple.

03 January 2009, 20:45	#14
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	Indeed a buggy trainer. The original SPS image works flawless with A500 quickstart mode.

03 January 2009, 21:03	#16
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	Really? Doesn't work for me with standard quickstart mode. Maybe you used other settings with enabled exact blitter?

09 January 2009, 15:22	#19
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	This Space Harrier version works, if you select Chipset --> Chipset Extra --> Generic.

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