TOSEC Amiga Correction Help!!!

[mai]

Because "TOSEC Amiga Correction Thread" is closed, i have to create a new
thread, where i can post current corrections problems.
The Thread created by BippyM is not suitable for this subject, i think.
Probably its better to have an own thread for this subject.
Sometimes i need help too.

My current problem:
Sarakon (1991)(Starbyte)
If " Starbyte" is really the publisher, i have to check it closer, then according to the Info in HOL, i have to rename to:
Sarakon (1991)(Starbyte)(De)(en)
This means this version was published in Germany only by Starbyte and the ingame language is english.
Please help, tell me more.

[mai]

Any help, where is the Amiga-maintaner, where are the TOSEC members, lack of interest?

[PandMonium]

lol i'm here but only 4hours passed since you put this question, i'm not a robot
Anyway i saw this post before lunch and thought you were asking something specific for that game / publisher, so i'm not a big help since i don't know anything :|
If you're asking about the new name, yes it is correct Anyway i'm not the amiga maintainer and there are other members and people that is / was involved in tosec before that can possibly help, if you want just ask me directly because i may not understand the question and i'm not always refreshing this forum

Anyway nice job and nice findings

[mai]

Originally Posted by PandMonium

lol i'm here but only 4hours passed since you put this question, i'm not a robot

Thank you PandMonium, i know you are here, if i need your opinion, the only one?

[DH]

I whole heartedly agree with you mai. In TOSEC TNC handbook, your changes are and will be correct

[PandMonium]

Originally Posted by mai

Thank you PandMonium, i know you are here, if i need your opinion, the only one?

TKaos confirmed what you said, he didn't post but i asked him after posting just in case and he said some time ago asked the same thing to idoru so you are pretty much correct

[mai]

Starting to check games beginning with letter S is a real nightmare.
I know, present day we are in a better position to check all images, because
of the advanced emulator WinUAE(big thanks to Toni W.) and because of the existence of IPF images (for comparing purpose), but in the past some of the renamers seemed to be blind.
Because of my example:

Sarakon (1991)(Starbyte)
>>>
Sarakon (1991)(Starbyte)(De)(en)

I was quite sure, its correct renamed by me.
The real problem for me is, how to find out, if it is really the version published in germany, but IPF images of both versions are available, so i was able to compare and now i quite sure.

[PandMonium]

well now your talking chinese to me since i never used WinUAE or a IPF image or so but anyway keep up your good work :P

[mai]

I need some infos about renaming this disks, which are packed with "Quarterback" archiver.
Often or always this disks have the more info flag [cd32 rip, quarterback archive] - this seems to be ok to me, if we have this more info flags, we probably need no info about [HD].
Quarterback archives always needs installing to HD.
But my question is if we should add informations about the content of the archive, is there any need for adding [h], [f].
Mostly it was necassery to fix this cd32 rips, and mostly you can find such informations inside the archive.
Please tell me about?

[mai]

Next problem:
I have just found out, some CD32 rips have the "CD32" add on in their title and others dont have.
Generally i think, there is no need for adding "CD32" to the title because:
1. - Its not part of the official title.
2. - We have the more info flag [cd32 rip].
Mostly we have both informations in the set name, is it necassery?
Example:
Sensible Soccer - European Champions CD32 v1.1 (1993)(Renegade)[h LGD][a][CD32 rip]
and others dont have "CD32" add on in their title.
Example:
Gloom (1995)(Guildhall)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 2)[HD, CD32 rip]
I think, we should have a general usage for this.
I would never add "CD32" to the title, as i have daid, its not part of the official title.
Please tell me.

[mai]

Next problem:
There are many Coverdisks in:
Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF] (TOSEC-v2006-10-19_CM).dat
Sometimes this disks are Demoversions of commercial Games or full games, which were probably not commercial.
My question is, if
Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF] (TOSEC-v2006-10-19_CM).dat
is the right dat for Coverdisks, there is a seperately dat for Coverdisks.
Please tell me!

[PandMonium]

a) in my opinion if it is not part of the title then it shouldn't be there + that info is already in more info flag (but remember that i don't know what cd32 is )

b) yes there are probably lots of files that should go to different datfiles, if you find any that clearly should be in other dat then do it / or point the mistake so it can be fixed

[mai]

Originally Posted by PandMonium

a) in my opinion if it is not part of the title then it shouldn't be there + that info is already in more info flag (but remember that i don't know what cd32 is )

b) yes there are probably lots of files that should go to different datfiles, if you find any that clearly should be in other dat then do it / or point the mistake so it can be fixed

Thank you PandMonium,

and the next problem,
Often it is possible to add a versions number to a game title, although this versions number often is not really part of the title.
Often you can see a versions number, if you start/play a game, but sometimes such a versions number is hidden in the gamecode, you can see
it by hex-viewing.
If this versions number is inside the main executable, then its more than likely the versions number of the game itself.
Please tell me more.

[PandMonium]

well i can't tell you much more about that, there is a version field in TNC as you said and it is independent from title, you can use the version number if you know it but i know that sometimes it is hard to know + not really helpful so some renamers don't use it.
I don't know amiga a lot but i guess that in some cases there are sets marked as [a] or so and they may be different versions and could be identified by that, no?

If you want to use it and know the version of the app / game you can but don't try too hard hex-viewing and so on or you may loose lots of time for nothing

[mai]

1.
Is an underdumped or overdumped disk always a bad disk, i mean is there any need for adding [b] flag, or means [u] or [o] the disk is bad.
My experiences are, that most of the underdumped disks dont work.

2.
My virus program has detected two viruses, which seems to be very rare, never used in current Amiga games dat.
Maybe this viruses are known under a different name.
a: "Revenge Bootloader" BB virus.
b: "Switch Off" BB virus
What should i do in this case, add the name of the virus, which tells the virus program?

[PandMonium]

hi, i'm not at home now so can't confirm it but for 1) there are cases where [o] doesn't means it is broken (so it can be played), maybe the same for [u] but right now i can't check it, when i get back i will try to confirm that out, about the virus i have no idea... you can see the virus currently used in tosec dats but i have no idea if those virus are already there with other names :/

[mai]

Thank you,PandMonium.
I have next problem:
In current Amiga games dat are some disks with the more info flag [compilation].
I have thought there is a separate compilation dat, even Amiga games compilation dat.

[mai]

Skeleton Krew (1995-12-01)(Core)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr PSG][a]
according to TNC format is: YYYY-MM-DD
What do you think, if you see attached screenshot, is it rather:
Skeleton Krew (1995-01-12)(Core)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr PSG][a]
If i compare with info in HOL, then it is rather 12 january, because most of the reviews are from march ,april, may 1995.

[PandMonium]

Originally Posted by mai

Thank you,PandMonium.
I have next problem:
In current Amiga games dat are some disks with the more info flag [compilation].
I have thought there is a separate compilation dat, even Amiga games compilation dat.

Yes, there are dats like:
Commodore Amiga - Compilations - Applications
Commodore Amiga - Compilations - Games
Commodore Amiga - Compilations - Various

where compilations should be, i have no idea what that sets are or why they are there, only the maintainer or one of the renamers may answer i guess

Originally Posted by mai

Skeleton Krew (1995-12-01)(Core)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr PSG][a]
according to TNC format is: YYYY-MM-DD
What do you think, if you see attached screenshot, is it rather:
Skeleton Krew (1995-01-12)(Core)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr PSG][a]
If i compare with info in HOL, then it is rather 12 january, because most of the reviews are from march ,april, may 1995.

seems you are right there should be a lot of errors in year flag too, currently there are some in other dats too. If there are reviews of the game i guess it can't be released so late and so you're right again

[mai]

@PandMonium
I'm glad, that you are here.
Thank you again, i would wish you would not be the only one.