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Yep, but the Agnus revision will limit how much chipram can be addressed.
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...6&postcount=13 http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co...t.aspx?id=1478 Your question is a good one, though, and I know why you asked it! All the A500/KS 3.1 configs I listed in my post above have been clarified - my A500/KS 3.1 system has 2MB chip + 8375B Agnus (DKB Megachip) and an 8362 OCS Denise (just popped the lid on the A500 to make sure!). Quote:
(a) A500, OCS, KS1.3, 1MB chip ----> FAIL (b) A500, OCS, KS3.1, 2MB chip ----> FAIL [see photo #3] Last edited by DrBong; 14 April 2018 at 23:10. Reason: Added better explanation, corrected errors + added links! |
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with reqtools.library and powerpacker.library modified too? because on winuae with or without "more compatible" option, the adf in ftp not running on 68000. The FFS/OFS is just for booting on ks1.3x. The ADF on the zone launch the game with 68000 but without "more compatible option" only Last edited by Aladin; 14 April 2018 at 17:30. |
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I can't say why your ADF in the Zone works under emulation with 68000, but only if the "more compatible" option box isn't ticked. That's possibly a question for Toni or one of the other emulation gurus. My interest atm is mostly concerned with what specs are required for the original *unmodified* version of the game released by F1 Licenceware, as the HOL is all about original releases of games. If we can produce a 68000 compatible version of the game that works on both real hardware and under emulation with KS1.3 and 2MB chipram.....then, obviously, I'd be all for it! I'll try to look into it tomorrow if I get the time, but right now I'm a little fatigued from work today plus all the testing, photo taking, posting about results etc. etc. and I really need to have some dinner (it's 10pm here and I've been too busy to eat anything yet today!). I'm sure you can understand! Last edited by DrBong; 14 April 2018 at 16:11. |
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000 fix into The Zone!
Please test. Edit: Just noticed a 1998 version into the zone but actually differ only in wwn.doc (an exclusive licensing to F1 Software). Main code/data is exactly the same. Fell free to use this complementary file. Last edited by ross; 14 April 2018 at 18:41. |
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In this case, however, the problem is a longword reading from an odd address [move.l (a0)+,(a2)+ where a0 is odd] So in in my opinion should be corrected in WinUAE. |
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With your fix, ok for me. The game now loading with or without "more compatible" option. The minimum are 68000, OCS, KS1.X, he just needs 2Mo Chip Bravo ross |
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...just copied your fixed "wwn" file over to the TOSEC "Willy's Weirdy Nightmare (1995)(AGAS - F1 Licenceware)(LW)[1998 edition][AMOS].adf" and all is working perfectly with a "Quickstart A600 - 2MB" config |
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Molto bene.....beautiful work! This tested fine on the following real Amiga set-ups here: (a) A500 / OCS / KS3.1 / 2MB chip (b) A500 / OCS / KS3.1 / 2MB chip / 68030 (c) A1200 / KS3.1 / 2MB chip / 64MB fast / 68030 It did not work, however, under any A500/A1200 config. here that I tried with only 1MB chipram.....so yes, min. specs required for your fix are 68000 CPU, OCS, KS1.x and 2MB chipram. Rosario (queste e` il tuo nome - vero?! ), are you able to explain exactly why the game won't work with 1MB chipram? Is it the result of buggy AMOS compiling or something else?! The game reports system error #24 on a black screen here and says to contact the game author to let him know! Quote:
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I've never seen that before. Looks like one I should try as I used to love Manic Miner and Jetset Willy on the Spectrum
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It is working as designed. More compatible also adds 68000/010 address error checks. It has always been like this, no more compatible = don't do checks that no normal programs need.
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An intended feature rather than a bug with a happy side-effect then? Interesting! Last edited by DrBong; 14 April 2018 at 20:27. |
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This chart may be of help in the maze area. Room# and name are where Willy is. The 4 numbers to the right show where Willy winds up after leaving in the indicated direction. A 0 usually means there is no exit in that direction. Exception is room 1 right where 0 is valid. 0 is the default destination if for whatever reason Willy goes out of bounds in a room.
In maze area say Willy enters a room, immediately turns around, leaves. He doesn't necessarily end up in the same room he started. (26, We're On The Road To Nowhere) shows leaving right will just keep repeating that room. Chart showing an exit that looks unreachable (16, The Study) right could mean a switch needs to be thrown. Might build a bridge, grow a vine to climb or something else. Another tricky one is exit right in (20, The Kitchen) where no right exit is visible. It leads to (173, The Secret Panel). Hard to imagine finding this without knowing it was there beforehand. This explains why the HOL pictures couldn't be assembled into a true map. Only short runs can be made before a screen overlaps one already plotted. Code:
Room# Room Name Up Down Right Left ================================================================== 0 The Master Bedroom 0 0 0 1 1 The East Landing 0 0 0 2 2 The Landing 4 3 1 9 3 The Cupboard Under The Stairs 2 11 0 0 4 Stairs To The Roof 5 2 6 176 5 Entrance To The Roof 0 4 0 34 6 The Upper Landing 7 0 75 4 7 The Attic 0 6 8 0 8 Toys In The Attic 0 0 76 7 9 The West Landing 33 10 2 35 10 The Spare Bedroom 9 0 0 0 11 The Hall 3 17 12 32 12 The Hall To The East 13 0 14 11 13 The Library 0 12 16 0 14 The Entrance Hall 0 0 15 12 15 The Draw Bridge 0 70 25 14 16 The Study 0 0 77 13 17 The Dining Hall 11 20 18 0 18 The Lounge 0 0 19 17 19 The Bar 0 0 0 18 20 The Kitchen 17 21 173 22 21 The Cellar 20 0 23 0 22 The Servants Quarters 0 0 20 0 23 The Hidden Passage 0 0 24 21 24 Entrance To The Dungeons 0 36 0 23 25 The Gravel Drive 31 28 26 15 26 We're On The Road To Nowhere 0 0 26 25 27 The Avery 0 0 28 37 28 Gardens To The South 25 0 189 27 29 Entrance To The Maze 59 30 0 173 30 Gardens At The North 29 0 31 54 31 The Front Gardens 0 25 78 30 32 The West Hall 0 0 11 42 33 Into The Watchtower 34 9 0 0 34 All Along The Watchtower 0 33 5 72 35 The Unused Passage 45 0 9 46 36 The Dungeon 24 165 160 168 37 Up The Garden Path 0 0 27 38 38 By The Barbie 39 0 37 0 39 The Patio 40 38 0 0 40 The Back Door 69 39 41 48 41 The Conservatory 0 0 42 40 42 The Trophy Room 43 55 32 41 43 The Games Room 0 42 0 44 44 The Old Arcade 0 0 43 0 45 Room 101 0 35 0 0 46 The Haunted Bedroom 0 0 35 47 47 The Secret Chamber 0 0 46 0 48 The Back Gardens 52 0 40 49 49 The Orchard 53 50 48 58 50 The Windy Path 49 0 51 79 51 The Outhouse 0 0 177 50 52 Beware The Barrenwort 67 48 0 53 53 The Secret Garden 0 49 52 0 54 Under The Great Oak 68 0 30 67 55 Deep In The Forest 0 0 58 56 56 The Mysterious Cottage 172 0 55 57 57 Home Sweet Home 0 0 56 166 58 The Forests Edge 0 0 49 55 59 In The Maze 60 29 0 60 60 In The Maze 0 0 64 65 61 In The Maze 0 0 63 62 62 In The Maze 60 63 64 62 63 In The Maze 64 65 66 64 64 In The Maze 0 0 61 61 65 In The Maze 0 59 64 60 66 The Centre Of The Maze 61 60 62 64 67 Amongst The Patchouli And Pelargonium 175 52 54 174 68 The Tree Surgeons Office 0 73 71 0 69 A Roof Without A Fiddler 71 40 72 0 70 In The Moat 15 0 0 0 71 The Branch Line 0 69 0 68 72 Quasimodo Woz Ere 0 0 34 69 73 The Bee's Nest 0 74 0 0 74 The Root Of The Problem 48 0 0 0 75 The Hidden Wall 0 0 0 6 76 Electrical Resistance ? 0 0 0 8 77 "What's A Quirkafleeg ?" 0 0 0 16 78 The Private Runway 0 0 0 31 79 The Lychgate 0 0 50 80 80 The Church Yard 0 81 79 82 81 John Browns Stomping Ground 80 0 0 0 82 Entrance To The Church 0 0 80 83 83 The Congregation 89 0 82 84 84 The Altar 86 88 83 85 85 The Secret Apse 0 120 84 0 86 The Pulpit 0 84 0 87 87 The Confession Box 0 0 86 124 88 The Vestry 84 0 0 0 89 The Tower Stairs 90 83 0 0 90 In The Belfry 91 89 0 0 91 Heavens Above ! 92 90 0 0 92 Stairway To Heaven 93 91 0 0 93 Knocking On Heavens Door 0 0 94 95 94 Let There Be Light 0 0 0 93 95 You're Going Down... 0 96 93 198 96 Beware The Devil..... 0 97 0 0 97 For His Number Is..... 0 98 0 0 98 Six Hundred And Sixty Six 0 99 0 0 99 The Whole Fire And Brimstone Gig 98 0 125 0 100 The Edge Of The Desert 0 0 119 140 101 Amongst The Shifting Dunes 0 0 102 119 102 The Foot Of The Pyramid 110 0 103 101 103 The Thirty Nine Thousand Steps 104 107 106 102 104 Top Of The World Ma !! 0 103 111 110 105 Entrance To The Passages 106 0 0 107 106 In The Valley Of The Twix 111 105 130 103 107 The Crossing Of Paths 103 109 105 108 108 The Slaves Tomb 0 0 107 0 109 The Pharaohs Tomb 107 0 0 0 110 Pye In The Sky 0 102 104 0 111 The Temple Of The Gods 0 106 0 104 112 Life In The Fridge 130 0 113 114 113 Ice Cold In Alex 0 0 118 112 114 The Troll Bridge 0 116 112 115 115 The Ice Cavern 0 0 114 117 116 Trapped Under The Ice 114 0 0 0 117 Lair Of The Yetties 0 0 115 0 118 The Titanic`s Downfall 0 150 157 113 119 Under The Baking Sun 0 0 101 100 120 The Crypt 85 121 0 0 121 Gateway For Departed Spirits 120 0 0 122 122 Across The River Styx 0 0 121 123 123 Hades Itself 80 0 122 0 124 A Second Chance 0 0 87 125 125 Meet Beelzibub 0 0 124 99 126 0 0 0 0 127 0 0 0 0 128 0 0 0 0 129 0 0 0 0 130 The Departure Lounge 131 112 119 189 131 Twinkle Twinkle Little Bat 149 132 148 148 132 Planet Of The Mugwumps 131 0 133 134 133 Searching Every Nook And Cranny 131 0 134 132 134 Giant Steps Are What You Take 131 135 132 133 135 In The Ventilation System 134 0 136 137 136 Every Breath You Take... 0 0 0 135 137 The Primary Vent Shaft 0 138 135 0 138 Inside The Aliens Base 137 139 138 138 139 The Master Control Centre 138 0 146 0 140 Where The Streets Have No Name 0 0 100 141 141 When I Were A Lad This were All Houses 0 0 140 142 142 Blowing In The Wind 0 0 141 144 143 Ahh ! Here She Is ! 0 0 144 0 144 Where`s My Mummy 0 145 142 143 145 Home Sweet Home 144 0 0 0 146 All Aboard The Spacelark 0 0 147 139 147 Trouble With The Warp Drive 0 0 130 146 148 The Constellation of Yang 148 149 131 131 149 Set The Sub-Space Tacheon Lattice 148 131 149 149 150 The Frozen Stern 0 152 151 0 151 The Haunted Deck 0 0 155 150 152 On The Botttom 150 0 153 0 153 The Icebergs Legacy 0 0 154 152 154 In Amongst The Superstructure ! 0 0 159 153 155 The Escape point 156 0 158 151 156 Holy Smoke 0 0 130 157 157 The North Pole 0 0 156 118 158 The Bow 0 0 0 155 159 The Engine Master`s Watery Haunt 0 0 0 154 160 The Torture Chamber 0 162 161 36 161 The Pit Of Man Eating Snails 0 163 0 160 162 The Rack 160 0 163 0 163 The Exocutioners Chamber 161 0 164 162 164 The Guillotine 0 0 0 163 165 The Dungeon Cells 36 166 0 169 166 The Flume 170 0 57 0 167 Torture Store Room 0 0 168 0 168 The Gaolers Room 0 0 36 167 169 The Secret Escape Route 28 0 165 0 170 The Chimney Stack 0 166 171 0 171 The Cottage Roof 0 0 172 170 172 On The Cot-Edge 0 56 0 171 173 The Secret Panel The Tunnel 0 0 29 20 174 The Hidden Wall Switch 0 0 67 0 175 Head In The Clouds 0 67 0 0 176 The Nursery 0 0 4 0 177 Entrance To The Mine 0 178 0 51 178 The Primary Shaft 177 179 0 0 179 Section 2 - Primary Shaft 178 180 0 0 180 Level Junction 1 179 183 182 181 181 This Seams Dangerous ! 0 0 180 0 182 The Drill Site 0 0 0 180 183 Level Junction 2 180 187 185 184 184 The New Seam 0 0 183 0 185 The Collapsed Tunnel 0 0 186 183 186 The Hidden Seam 0 0 0 185 187 The Crystal Caverns 183 188 0 0 188 The Land That Time Didn't Bother With 187 0 0 0 189 To The Airport 0 0 130 28 190 0 0 0 0 191 0 0 0 0 192 0 0 0 0 193 0 0 0 0 194 0 0 0 0 195 0 0 0 0 196 0 0 0 0 197 0 0 0 0 198 The Credits 0 0 51 0 199 0 0 0 0 Last edited by clenched; 19 April 2018 at 16:11. 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Thank you. I am the original author and it astounds me that there is still interest in my (one and only!) commercial release! I'm pleased that it still brings some fun to people (and I apologise for the maze....and several other difficult screens!).
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WWN is my favourite Amiga game. My GO-TO for a quick platformer. First game I always install and configure on any device I'm emulating on. I cannot thank you enough for that game. In a sea of shitty Willy clones, yours stands out head and shoulders above them all. I just wish you'd written more. |
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