Best way to use Amiga joystick on a PC? - Page 3

Stoilov · 17 January 2009, 14:24

Hi bouht two Saitek joypad and connect wires as the image, one work perfectly, the other in windows show device not recognized. I note that could be a problem that the gnd and up wire is connected togheter, can i resolve the problem?

Fingerlickin_B · 18 January 2009, 01:58

Do you mean the two joypad PCBs are different, or you wired it differently?

PZ.

Stoilov · 18 January 2009, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

Do you mean the two joypad PCBs are different, or you wired it differently?

PZ.

The joypad are identically, i connect it in the same mode.
I sconnect all and try the pad as original, the problem is the same.

18 January 2009, 18:28

Just finished building my adaptor and would like to say a big thanks to Fingerlickin_B and alexkyriak for sharing all the information and pictures!

Did mine slightly different using other ideas I have seen around, the usb game controller is still fully usable and has a 9pin male dsub connector attached to plug in my old controllers. Just cost £1.19 for the male 9pin dsub from Maplin (RK60Q) and a bit of time. (Too cheap to buy a box lol).

I connected straight onto the PCB tracks, just gently scrape to expose the copper and then solder. This way it does not obstruct the buttons.

Alternatively if you prefer an enclosure and as mentioned by alexkyriak the PCB could be cut down as marked by the red lines.

Fingerlickin_B · 19 January 2009, 01:02

@ Stoilov - Sounds like it's just a broken joypad then

@ Scubaguy - Very nice!

PZ.

Stoilov · 19 January 2009, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

@ Stoilov - Sounds like it's just a broken joypad then

@ Scubaguy - Very nice!

PZ.

I think so.

Fingerlickin_B · 19 January 2009, 11:23

Bummer hey, but at least you have one working

PZ.

alexkyriak · 19 January 2009, 14:22

@ Scubaguy - Awesome dude. Very neat, like it alot!

Think I might try another one like this, keeps everything compact. Like the trick with connecting midway along the pcb track.

Anyone seen/used one of these things? It's giving me an idea about multiple controllers. http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html

@ Stoilov - sorry to hear that, do you have a photo of the one that doesn't work?

@ Saqquara - how's progress, chief?

Alex

19 January 2009, 19:55

Thanks for the nice comments gents!

alexkyriak · 21 January 2009, 23:49

two more of those gamepad thingies turned up on my doorstep this morning....

now I just need to figure out what to do with them...

22 January 2009, 08:40

@ alexkyriak

I did post an update about a week ago, or thought I did, must have previewed and not posted. Anyway I couldn't get my zipstick from my brothers until last week and had no other way to test it out so waiting for the helping hands thingy wasn't a big problem although the guy I ordered it from did mess me around. I have had a go at soldering direct onto the tracks like Scubaguy but as I said my soldering isn't good and I'm having problems, the sparky at work reckons I'm not getting it hot enough. Waiting has probably been a good thing anyway as normally I would have jumped on it and mucked it up. I tested the pad before opening it so if it doesn't work I know I've done something wrong and I will definately finish it this weekend.

Later....
Saqqara

22 January 2009, 16:06

@ scubaguy
An excellent post with the pics and added to the great info/pics provided by alexkyriak and Fingerlickin_B makes it all much easier,I must say you are a friendly bunch here

.

@ alexkyriak

the link to the Ultimarc controller looks good but if you scroll down on the link I posted http://denki.world3.net/ there are pinouts for a triple atari adapter. If you can make one of those I would think it would be much cheaper and more satisfying.

Later....
Saqqara

10 February 2009, 23:52

Hi All,

Well it's finally finished and works like a charm, I would post pictures but my soldering looks like crap. When I finally got all the bits together and enough time it wasn't too bad and if I can do it anyone can.

I have only use it on my C64 emulator so far, had to solder onto button 1, 2, or 3, I chose 4 and had to redo it

I have played Boulder dash with my trusty old Zipstick ah! nostalgia, wish I could bottle it I would be worth millions

. I think I saw somewhere that it needed an extra wire and resistor for autofire but it worked without on the Zipstick.

Only thing I'm not happy about is the size so I'm on the lookout for another pad I can cut down smaller and get a smaller box for it. I may add another board into the box I already have so I can batter my brother on Kick off again

.

Later....
Saqqara

filmjölkszombin · 17 February 2009, 17:33

it says Stelladaptor is for atari joysticks does it work with amiga joysticks to?

Fingerlickin_B · 17 February 2009, 23:39

Yes indeed

PZ.

alexkyriak · 22 February 2009, 14:44

Come on Saqqara just one photo.....

dash · 23 October 2010, 18:48

Hi guys. I'm going to have a go at this myself. I've never soldered anything in my life, so this could go horribly wrong!!

Anyway, I've bought the Saitek Impact gamepad from Ebay; that was £3.95 including postage.

I'll probably just buy the 9 pin D-SUB from Maplins and have it sent. Could someone confirm the part number? There's an RK60Q "D-Range 9 Way Plug", and there's an RK61R "D-Range 9 Way Skt". I presume I need the latter?

On one of the links posted earlier (http://www.vilminko.net/henri/projvi...?id=19&lang=en), I noticed this:

Quote:

Note: Most computers that have Atari joystick ports provide +5 volts on the pin 7 of the D-sub connector to power autofire circuits. If you want to use the autofire function present on some joysticks, you have to connect D-sub pin 7 with the pin 10 on the IC, inserting a small resistor for safety.

Prowler said this earlier in the thread:

Quote:

... Pin 7 on both connectors supplies +5 Volts DC (50 mA), and this pin should ONLY be connected if power from it is required by the external device.

Forgive me for being immensely stupid, but does this mean I should connect it, or not? (The joystick I'm intending to actually use is the QuickShot Python 1 - http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=37133.)

Thanks.

dash · 24 October 2010, 13:41

Anyone?

I'm a bit confused because scubaguy said earlier that he bought the RK60Q, but that's the 9-pin D-SUB plug, and I thought I needed the socket!? Can someone confirm?

Here's the Maplin link:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1113

Thanks.

heerschop · 28 October 2010, 23:33

I also build my own joystick adapter. For the first one I used ppjoy and a home made plug to connect the joystick to the parallel port.
This works great but your comp has to have a parallel port. Also ppjoy has to be updated to support new operating systems.
Inspired by scubaguy I tried to make my own joystick to usb adapter. Went out to buy a cheap usb gamepad and added a db9 connector.
It works great. No need to install drivers, just plug in and play.
Used a Thrustmaster firestorm digital 3 gamepad and a db9 connector. Build the db9 inside the gamepad. This way I can still use the gamepad.
Thanks for this great idea.

Greetings,
Ben

Fingerlickin_B · 29 October 2010, 04:46

I wouldn't bother connecting pin 7.

You need the socket to plug your joystick into.

PZ.

18 January 2009, 18:28	#44
scubaguy Posts: n/a	Just finished building my adaptor and would like to say a big thanks to Fingerlickin_B and alexkyriak for sharing all the information and pictures! Did mine slightly different using other ideas I have seen around, the usb game controller is still fully usable and has a 9pin male dsub connector attached to plug in my old controllers. Just cost £1.19 for the male 9pin dsub from Maplin (RK60Q) and a bit of time. (Too cheap to buy a box lol). I connected straight onto the PCB tracks, just gently scrape to expose the copper and then solder. This way it does not obstruct the buttons. Alternatively if you prefer an enclosure and as mentioned by alexkyriak the PCB could be cut down as marked by the red lines. Attached Thumbnails

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17 January 2009, 14:24	#41
Stoilov Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 14	Hi bouht two Saitek joypad and connect wires as the image, one work perfectly, the other in windows show device not recognized. I note that could be a problem that the gnd and up wire is connected togheter, can i resolve the problem?

18 January 2009, 01:58	#42
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Do you mean the two joypad PCBs are different, or you wired it differently? PZ.

19 January 2009, 01:02	#45
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	@ Stoilov - Sounds like it's just a broken joypad then @ Scubaguy - Very nice! PZ.

19 January 2009, 11:23	#47
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Bummer hey, but at least you have one working PZ.

19 January 2009, 14:22	#48
alexkyriak Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London / UK Posts: 12	@ Scubaguy - Awesome dude. Very neat, like it alot! Think I might try another one like this, keeps everything compact. Like the trick with connecting midway along the pcb track. Anyone seen/used one of these things? It's giving me an idea about multiple controllers. http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html @ Stoilov - sorry to hear that, do you have a photo of the one that doesn't work? @ Saqquara - how's progress, chief? Alex

19 January 2009, 19:55	#49
scubaguy Posts: n/a	Thanks for the nice comments gents!

21 January 2009, 23:49	#50
alexkyriak Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London / UK Posts: 12	two more of those gamepad thingies turned up on my doorstep this morning.... now I just need to figure out what to do with them...

22 January 2009, 08:40	#51
Saqqara Posts: n/a	@ alexkyriak I did post an update about a week ago, or thought I did, must have previewed and not posted. Anyway I couldn't get my zipstick from my brothers until last week and had no other way to test it out so waiting for the helping hands thingy wasn't a big problem although the guy I ordered it from did mess me around. I have had a go at soldering direct onto the tracks like Scubaguy but as I said my soldering isn't good and I'm having problems, the sparky at work reckons I'm not getting it hot enough. Waiting has probably been a good thing anyway as normally I would have jumped on it and mucked it up. I tested the pad before opening it so if it doesn't work I know I've done something wrong and I will definately finish it this weekend. Later.... Saqqara

22 January 2009, 16:06	#52
Saqqara Posts: n/a	@ scubaguy An excellent post with the pics and added to the great info/pics provided by alexkyriak and Fingerlickin_B makes it all much easier,I must say you are a friendly bunch here . @ alexkyriak the link to the Ultimarc controller looks good but if you scroll down on the link I posted http://denki.world3.net/ there are pinouts for a triple atari adapter. If you can make one of those I would think it would be much cheaper and more satisfying. Later.... Saqqara

10 February 2009, 23:52	#53
Saqqara Posts: n/a	Hi All, Well it's finally finished and works like a charm, I would post pictures but my soldering looks like crap. When I finally got all the bits together and enough time it wasn't too bad and if I can do it anyone can. I have only use it on my C64 emulator so far, had to solder onto button 1, 2, or 3, I chose 4 and had to redo it I have played Boulder dash with my trusty old Zipstick ah! nostalgia, wish I could bottle it I would be worth millions . I think I saw somewhere that it needed an extra wire and resistor for autofire but it worked without on the Zipstick. Only thing I'm not happy about is the size so I'm on the lookout for another pad I can cut down smaller and get a smaller box for it. I may add another board into the box I already have so I can batter my brother on Kick off again . Later.... Saqqara

17 February 2009, 17:33	#54
filmjölkszombin Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: icecream city Posts: 24	it says Stelladaptor is for atari joysticks does it work with amiga joysticks to?

17 February 2009, 23:39	#55
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Yes indeed PZ.

22 February 2009, 14:44	#56
alexkyriak Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London / UK Posts: 12	Come on Saqqara just one photo.....

24 October 2010, 13:41	#58
dash Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Berkshire, UK Age: 46 Posts: 26	Anyone? I'm a bit confused because scubaguy said earlier that he bought the RK60Q, but that's the 9-pin D-SUB plug, and I thought I needed the socket!? Can someone confirm? Here's the Maplin link: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1113 Thanks.

28 October 2010, 23:33	#59
heerschop Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: home Posts: 12	I also build my own joystick adapter. For the first one I used ppjoy and a home made plug to connect the joystick to the parallel port. This works great but your comp has to have a parallel port. Also ppjoy has to be updated to support new operating systems. Inspired by scubaguy I tried to make my own joystick to usb adapter. Went out to buy a cheap usb gamepad and added a db9 connector. It works great. No need to install drivers, just plug in and play. Used a Thrustmaster firestorm digital 3 gamepad and a db9 connector. Build the db9 inside the gamepad. This way I can still use the gamepad. Thanks for this great idea. Greetings, Ben

29 October 2010, 04:46	#60
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	I wouldn't bother connecting pin 7. You need the socket to plug your joystick into. PZ.

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