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[NovaCoder]

Originally Posted by arti

NetSurf for AGA test version is in The Zone!

Build with faster, no double buffering mode.

Cool well done Arti

Hope it works for you AGA boys out there

One day I might do an new faster RTG based SDL, that should help the RTG users of NetSurf as well.

UPDATE: Well as is kind of traditional, I'm now using NetSurf_AGA to type this update (using WinUAE). It's obviously not exactly fast but on the postive side, at least the site is correctly rendered. I think most of the CPU power is going into deciding what to be drawn rather than the actual drawing speed itself. The colors are still not quite there on some images and I think the animated gifs are really slowing it down (maybe they can be disabled for AGA?). Anyway, top effort Arti, hope you can tune it up a bit more for AGA users and make it a bit faster.

[ascp]

Couldn't get it to run on my 1200/060. When clicking WB says "attempting to load NetSurfAGA", but then nothing happens. If it log errors somewhere, i might have a look.

[NovaCoder]

I assume you have already install the RTG version?

Arti didn't say but you have to install the RTG version first, then copy the AGA file from the Zone into your folder to use it.

[attila06]

Yeah, it works on my 1260.

Some colors are not the good ones, and it's very slow, but all Windows are opening correctly.
Good job, need improvements of course but for a beta it's very good
Thanks Gentlemans.

[Retrofan]

Yes, it works (winuae) with fpu. A pity Ixemul doesn't have a 063 version without FPU.

[crazyc]

OK - I would love to try this but am not sure I have everything I need.
I saw Novacoders post and downloaded the RTG version but got an error when clicking on the installer icon (something about could not find the icon associated with the script or something).
I have previously tried with netsurf and get this ixemul error about needing a later version?
Could someone post me an idiots guide to installing this and what packages I need?
Cheers

PS -this is to run on a real a1200 with blizzard 1260 @66 and 128mb.

[Retrofan]

Grab here ixemul: http://amiga.sourceforge.net/?showpa...ixemul.library

The installer of the Aminet Netsurf version works ok (if not, download it again), but the NetSurfAGA that you must add to the drawer hasn't got an icon, so if you are using Magellan you just have to make a copy of the one of NetSurf (NetSurf.info) to ram for example, rename it as NetSurfAGA.info and move it again to the drawer. If you are using Workbench you can use Dopus for the same.

[attila06]

I have upload a little video on youtube:

[ Show youtube player ]

[NovaCoder]

Cool video, nice to see it running on the real thing

Arti: Try a non-ixemul build to increase speed, also make sure all of the libraries you are using are buit for at least an 040 and that you are using the gcc -O2 option (if possible, sometimes it can make it unstable). If I were you, I'd also look at disabling things like animated gifs. There is also something funny going on with the toolbar (the word AmiNet just floating there?), I think the status bar might need to be reworked for this lower resolution to fix it.

My latest SDL library now supports PAL 640x512 BTW.

[NovaCoder]

Originally Posted by crazyc

OK - I would love to try this but am not sure I have everything I need.
I saw Novacoders post and downloaded the RTG version but got an error when clicking on the installer icon (something about could not find the icon associated with the script or something).
I have previously tried with netsurf and get this ixemul error about needing a later version?
Could someone post me an idiots guide to installing this and what packages I need?
Cheers

PS -this is to run on a real a1200 with blizzard 1260 @66 and 128mb.

I couldn't get the RTG installer to run either (I think I got the same error as you). I decided to just copied everything out of the install package to where it should go and it seemed to be fine. It contains everything you need including the correct version of the ixemul.library, just look under the libs folder of the install package.

Maybe someone could debug the RTG installer script and find out what the problem is?

[crazyc]

Thanks all, I shall give it another go when I get a few minutes!

[Retrofan]

Dunno what to say... the installer works perfect here on my AmiKit conversion

[bbond007]

I think finally tracked down all of the files needed to run this thing, or not...

I get SDL : no available video device...

What am i doing wrong?

Thanks

[NovaCoder]

Originally Posted by bbond007

I think finally tracked down all of the files needed to run this thing, or not...

I get SDL : no available video device...

What am i doing wrong?

Thanks

Do you you have an NTSC Amiga, my AGA SDL is PAL only.

I don't know much about NTSC Amiga's, can you still run PAL modes if you use the right monitor driver?

[James]

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

If I were you, I'd also look at disabling things like animated gifs. There is also something funny going on with the toolbar (the word AmiNet just floating there?), I think the status bar might need to be reworked for this lower resolution to fix it.

Open the options text file in the resources drawer (the NetSurf prefs button will do this if it finds EditPad in the right place.)

To disable animated gifs change this line:

animate_images:1

To:

animate_images:0

To reduce the number of favourites displayed to 5 (AmiNet is no.6) change this line:

fb_toolbar_layout:blfrhsuvaqetk123456789xwzgdnmyop

To:

fb_toolbar_layout:blfrhsuvaqetk12345gdnmyop

The s in the above line is not there in the default options file, it adds the stop button, which may also mess up the layout... So try it with and without it.

[NovaCoder]

Can someone with RTG on a real machine compare the speed of the two versions, not so much page loading, I'm more interested in render speed.

[bbond007]

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

Do you you have an NTSC Amiga, my AGA SDL is PAL only.

I don't know much about NTSC Amiga's, can you still run PAL modes if you use the right monitor driver?

I have a PAL mode Amiga 1200. It just has a US KB

I have PAL and NTSC monitor files installed.

downloaded the Netsurf off of aminet, ran installer, replaced Netsurf with one
from the link. I also downloaded and installed ixemul-63.1-m68k.

Please help. I can't do my online banking until I get this working...

Thanks!

[NovaCoder]

Originally Posted by bbond007

I have a PAL mode Amiga 1200. It just has a US KB

I have PAL and NTSC monitor files installed.

downloaded the Netsurf off of aminet, ran installer, replaced Netsurf with one
from the link. I also downloaded and installed ixemul-63.1-m68k.

Please help. I can't do my online banking until I get this working...

Thanks!

For a start you should delete that ixemul.library that you downloaded and use the one from the RTG NetSurf install package instead.

That's not your actual issue but you should do it anyway as it will probably be unstable if you use the wrong ixemul.library.

The SDL will be trying to open a 640x480 8bit PAL screen, if it can't open it then it's either running out of CHIPRAM or it's some kind of OS issue.

[crazyc]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Dunno what to say... the installer works perfect here on my AmiKit conversion

I am running it on CWB 3.9 - not sure if that makes a difference.
Will try it the manual install way in the next day or two hopefully.

[attila06]

Well done Arti.

This Beta 1, gives good colors, and Netsurf window is nicer
For speed i think it's the same, but maybe it wasn't your first priority .
I will upload another video.