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Old 31 October 2008, 02:43   #1
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Verifying Group names and Abbreviations

Hi

(i think i can use this thread but if mods find it would be better somewhere else, please move.)

As you know there are tons of scene group names used all over TOSEC dats but i will talk only about "Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF]" related ones, the idea is that there are hundreds of different names used, some represent valid group names, others are errors / typos, others are abbreviations for some groups and there are also scener names (when the release / work was made by a guy alone and not a group).

So, i'm trying to get all this info sorted out and identify which ones are valid groups, which are abbreviations and to which group they belong and so on. To do this i need to get a proof (like a shot of some TOSEC setfile showing the name) but doing this alone is overkilling / very hard (since i don't have the full set / time / hd space for that), so was looking for some help for you guys, to do this i can provide the group name + info i already known and up to 3 setnames / datfiles where the name is present.

IF someone would like to help me / TKaos with this i will be very appreciated

(I know you may find it stupid to request a proof for ALL groups, but i can't go out just by someones word even if he says the groups is well known, also there are lots of names that are present in only 1 or 2 sets and so seem suspicious or represent some less known group with very few releases (at least in TOSEC )).

Thanks


Checked groups until now:
Format: Group Name (Abbr) [Full Name]

Valid:
2 Unlim!ted
2D Team
68 DARC [68000 DARC]
7Up Crew (7 UP)
9009 XAD
A-Ha
A-Team [The A-Team]
Abakus
Abandon
ABC
Abnormal Data
Above and Beyond
Access (ACS)
Ace, Gary
Aces
Ache
Acid
Ackerlight
Action
Accumulators (ACC) [The Accumulators]
ACME
Adderly
Addicts
Adept
AEK
Aeon
Aesthetica
Australian Crackers United (ACU)

Cracking Force Neaples (CFN)
Italian Cracking Service (ICS)

Attention:
Advanced Chemistry (AC) -> abbreviation needs proof.
Accession (ACS) -> abbreviation needs proof.
2000 A.D. (2KAD) -> abbreviation needs proof.
Abyss (AYS) -> abbreviation needs proof.

Invalid:
Acme -> should be ACME

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Old 31 October 2008, 02:50   #2
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...and here is the first ones i picked out, if someone would like to help feel free to reply with info / a screen shot of the group name present in one of the sets

Test #1

Group Name: 2 Unlim!ted
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: /groups/2_Unlim!ted_001.png
Found: 3 times
Valid: Yes
Set: Siedler, Die (1993)(Blue Byte)(De)(Disk 1 of 3)(Intro)[cr 2 Unlim!ted]
Set: Siedler, Die (1993)(Blue Byte)(De)(Disk 2 of 3)(2)[cr 2 Unlim!ted]
Set: Siedler, Die (1993)(Blue Byte)(De)(Disk 3 of 3)(Boot & 3)[cr 2 Unlim!ted]

Group Name: 2D Team
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: /groups/2D_Team_001.png
Found: 1 times
Valid: Yes
Set: Top Banana (1992)(Hex)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr CSL][h 2D Team]


Group Name: 2KAD
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): 2000 AD
Info: checked sets are from "2000 A.D."
2KAD = Valid abbr? NEEDS PROOF!
amiga:
/groups/2000_A.D._001.png
/groups/2000_A.D._002.png
Found: 36 times
Valid: Attention
Set: Arabian Nights v1.00 (1993-04-20)(Krisalis)(M3)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr 2KAD][t +2 SBS]
Set: Arabian Nights v1.00 (1993-04-20)(Krisalis)(M3)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr 2KAD][t +2 SBS]
Set: Guerilla in Bolivia (1990)(CCS)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr 2KAD]


Group Name: 68 DARC
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): 68000 DARC
Info: /groups/68_DARC_001.png
/groups/68_DARC_002.png
Found: 1 times
Valid: Yes
Set: Platoon (1988)(Ocean)[cr VF - Beyonders][h 68 DARC]


Group Name: 7Up Crew
Abbreviation: 7 UP
Full Name(?): -
Info: /groups/7Up_Crew_001.png
/groups/7Up_Crew_002.png

Abbr = "7 UP" or "7UP" ?
Found: 1 times
Valid: Yes
Set: Enlightenment - Druid II (1988)(Firebird)[cr FLT - Northstar][h Trilogy - 7Up Crew]

Group Name: 9009 XAD
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: /groups/9009_XAD_001.png
Found: 1 times
Valid: Yes
Set: Hybris (1988)(Discovery)[cr QTX][h CCS - 9009 XAD]

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Okay here are screenshots from the above.. Some have more than one to prove where the naming comes from!

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And the rest with a rar archive of them so you can view filenames!

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hi bippym,
thanks
didn't really expected someone to test them all and do it so quickly
Thanks for the images, most of them are great and confirm that the group name is correct, the only think that i couldn't find out is a pic showing 2KAD as a valid abbreviation for 2000 A.D., since its idoru dat i suppose it is correct but anyway i would like to see a proof
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...since i don't want you to be bored without anything to do at all

Test #2:

Group Name: A-Ha
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 67 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Annals of Rome (1988)(PSS)[cr A-Ha]
Set: ECO (1988)(Ocean)[cr A-Ha]
Set: Empire - War Game of the Century v2.04 (1987)(Interstel)[cr A-Ha]

Group Name: A-Team
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: amiga: ?
Found in: 12 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Flight Path 737 (1987)(Anco)[cr A-Team - A-Ha]

Group Name: Abakus
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Abakus ??
/groups/Abakus_001.png
Found in: 2 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: Indian Mission (1988)(Coktel Vision)(De)[cr Abakus]

Group Name: Abandon
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: /groups/Abandon_001.png
Found: 1 times
Valid: Yes
Set: Kick Off 2 - Return to Europe v2.1e (1991)(Anco)[cr QTX][f Abandon][data disk]

Group Name: ABC
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: amiga: Valid.
/groups/ABC_001.png
/groups/ABC_002.png
c64: ABC = Abbreviation, ABC Crackings http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=2667
apple: invalid should be Ass
Found: 222 times
Valid: Attention
Set: Break! (1987)(Diamond)[cr ABC]

Group Name: Abnormal Data
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: /groups/Abnormal_Data_001.png
/groups/Abnormal_Data_002.png
Found: 4 times
Valid: Yes
Set: International Sports Challenge (1992)(Empire)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr Abnormal Data]

Group Name: Above and Beyond
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: Dupe! Correct Form? Above & Beyond / Above and Beyond
/groups/Above_and_Beyond_001.png
Found: 1 times
Valid: Yes
Set: Conquest of Japan v1.00 (1992)(Impressions)[cr SKR][h Above and Beyond]

Group Name: Abyss
Abbreviation: AYS
Full Name(?): -
Info: amiga: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Abyss
/groups/Abyss_001.png
/groups/Abyss_002.png
/groups/Abyss_003.png
c64: Abyss -
Found: 22 times
Valid: Attention
Set: Hoi (1992)(Hollyware)[cr SKR][t +2 Abyss]

Group Name: AC
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): Advanced Chemistry
Info: Advanced Chemistry. AC = Abbr
Found in: 10 set(s)
Valid: Attention
Set: Guardian CD32 (1995)(Acid)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr AC][t +8 AC][b][CD32 rip]

Group Name: ACC
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): Accumulators
Info: Accumulators. ACC = Abbr
Found in: 188 set(s)
Valid: Attention
Set: Airball (1989)(Microdeal)[cr TSK - ACC][t TSK - ACC]

Group Name: Access
Abbreviation: ACS
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 24 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: Dal'X (1994)(Mediagogo)(Fr)[cr Access]

Group Name: Ace, Gary
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 1 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Dark Castle (1988)(Mirrorsoft)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr BS1][h Ace, Gary]

Group Name: Aces
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 1 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Revolution Francaise, La (1989)(Legend)(Fr)[cr Aces - Piranhas]

Group Name: Ache
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 10 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Home Alone (1991)(Accolade)[cr SKR][h Ache + Extensors]

Group Name: Acid
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 2 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Space Quest II - Volhaul's Revenge v2.0F (1988)(Sierra)[h Acid]

Group Name: Ackerlight
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Ackerlight ?
Found in: 103 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: 20000 Lieues Sous les Mers (1988)(Infogrames)(Fr)[cr Ackerlight][tr en]

Group Name: Acme
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Acme_(old) ?
Found in: 1 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: No Exit (1990)(Coktel Vision)[cr PDX][t +3 Acme]

Group Name: ACME
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: Amstrad Sets should use: ACME Hacking Co.
Amiga sets should use Acme? (need to be checked)
Found in: 13 set(s)
Valid: Attention
Set: Narc (1990)(Ocean)[cr Angels - Defjam][t +4 ACME]

Group Name: ACS
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): Accession (also used by Access?)
Info: Accession (also used by Access). ACS = Abbr
Amtrad: Amtrad Cracking Service ~abbr should be A.C.S.
Found in: 76 set(s)
Valid: Attention
Set: Cyberzerk (1993)(boeder)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr ACS]

Group Name: Action
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: amiga: ??
c64: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=93
Found in: 87 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: Dizzy - Prince of the Yolkfolk (1992)(Codemasters)[cr Action][f AGA Action][t Action]

Group Name: ACU
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): Australian Crackers United
Info: Australian Crackers United. ACU = Abbr
Found in: 210 set(s)
Valid: Attention
Set: Dragon's Lair (1989)(ReadySoft)(Disk 1 of 8)[cr ACU][h Leaders][t +2 ACU]

Group Name: Adderly
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 5 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Commando (1989)(Elite)[cr OCL][f Adderly][h Specters]

Group Name: Addicts
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Addicts ??
Found in: 1 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: B.C. Kid (1992)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr DC][h Addicts]

Group Name: Adept
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Adept ??
Found in: 33 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: Italy 1990 (1990)(U.S. Gold)[cr Adept]

Group Name: AEK
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: AEK = Abbr, AEK Crackware = name
Found in: 29 set(s)
Valid: Attention
Set: Road Raider (1988)(Mindscape)[cr QTX][h AEK][v Saddam 1]

Group Name: Aeon
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Aeon ??
Found in: 17 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: 3001 - O'Connors Fight (1990)(Rainbow Arts)[cr Aeon]

Group Name: Aesthetica
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Aesthetica ??
Found in: 3 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: Assassin - Special Edition (1994)(Team 17)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr DLM][f HD Aesthetica][t +19 HLM][Quarterback archive, budget]

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...since i don't want you to be bored without anything to do at all

Test #2:

Group Name: A-Ha
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 67 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Annals of Rome (1988)(PSS)[cr A-Ha]
Set: ECO (1988)(Ocean)[cr A-Ha]
Set: Empire - War Game of the Century v2.04 (1987)(Interstel)[cr A-Ha]

Group Name: A-Team
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: c64: Various Groups, needs check... http://noname.c64.org/csdb/search/?s...&search=A-Team
amiga: ?
Found in: 12 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Flight Path 737 (1987)(Anco)[cr A-Team - A-Ha]

Group Name: Abakus
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Abakus ??
Found in: 2 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: Indian Mission (1988)(Coktel Vision)(De)[cr Abakus]

Group Name: Abandon
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 1 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Kick Off 2 - Return to Europe v2.1e (1991)(Anco)[cr QTX][f Abandon][data disk]

Group Name: ABC
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: amiga: ?
c64: ABC = Abbreviation, ABC Crackings http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=2667
apple: invalid should be Association of Broadcasting Crackers
spectrum: /groups/ABC_spectrum.PNG
Found in: 222 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Break! (1987)(Diamond)[cr ABC]
Set: Shadowgate (1987)(Mindscape)[cr ABC][h BST - Unit A]
Set: Shadowgate (1987)(Mindscape)[cr ABC][h Unit A][KS1.2]

Group Name: Abnormal Data
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 4 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: International Sports Challenge (1992)(Empire)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr Abnormal Data]
Set: International Sports Challenge (1992)(Empire)(Disk 2 of 3)[cr Abnormal Data]
Set: International Sports Challenge (1992)(Empire)(Disk 3 of 3)[cr Abnormal Data]
ABC didn't crack Shadowgate, Unit A did.. I can't find any mention of ABC in the game.. Will look more. ABC proof for break! is attached

Attached are screenshots for the others above, and the rest I'll do later or tomorrow

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decided to split this to its own thread
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really nice work
will look at your new screen shots now and complete my list with it
btw i think you forgot the last post by maimai that may came to here since it has an attachment too. ("CFN = Cracking Force Neaples")

Anyway there is no set with "CFN" or "Cracking Force Neaples" in Amiga dats and maimai image seems to be from "Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders (1988)(LucasFilm)(It)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr]" so i guess its a new group that will appear in the next dat and its good to have it verified now
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Just the one screenshot here..

There are versions of Shadowgate that have been renamed incorrectly, which I have fixed.

There are some cracked by ABC though. They are different in game as the UnitA crakcs say "cracked by UnitA" in game, where-as these ABC cracks don't!

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Group Name: Abyss
Abbreviation: AYS
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Abyss ??
Found in: 22 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: Hoi (1992)(Hollyware)[cr SKR][t +2 Abyss]
Set: Sir Fred - The Legend (1989)(Ubi Soft)[cr PNA][t +3 Abyss]
Set: Ziriax (1990)(Software Business)[cr TT][t +8 Abyss]

Group Name: AC
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): Advanced Chemistry
Info: Advanced Chemistry. AC = Abbr
Found in: 10 set(s)
Valid: Attention
Set: Guardian CD32 (1995)(Acid)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr AC][t +8 AC][b][CD32 rip]
Set: Chaos Engine, The (1993)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr FLT][t +2 AC]
Set: Chaos Engine, The (1993)(Renegade)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr FLT][t +2 AC]

Group Name: ACC
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): Accumulators
Info: Accumulators. ACC = Abbr
Found in: 188 set(s)
Valid: Attention
Set: Airball (1989)(Microdeal)[cr TSK - ACC][t TSK - ACC]
Set: Astaroth - The Angel of Death (1989)(Hewson)[cr ACC]
Set: Astaroth - The Angel of Death (1989)(Hewson)[cr ACC][a]
A few more

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Gonna do each one individually from now. Once you have replied Pandemonium I will remove the screenshots as they are using space

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Group Name: Access
Abbreviation: ACS
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 24 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: Dal'X (1994)(Mediagogo)(Fr)[cr Access]
Set: Gulp! (1994)(I.C.E.)(M5)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr Access][t +9 Access][b crack]
Set: Overdrive (1993)(Team 17)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr Access][Quarterback 5.0 archive]
No proof (yet) with regards the abbreviation.. screenies

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Group Name: Ace, Gary
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 1 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Dark Castle (1988)(Mirrorsoft)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr BS1][h Ace, Gary]
This is just a person who has modified the startup-sequence I think!

anyway

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really nice, you surely want to keep me busy too lol
i expected a few more replies by some more users but i guess that you just work by them
if i get 10 users work like you do this would be fast

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This is just a person who has modified the startup-sequence I think!
anyway
Yes, the lists i give / gave have scene groups used in dats, some are groups others are "sceners nicknames" and others are person names, i suppose that for person names the rule is the same as in the publisher field: "surname, name".
anyway will try to put a note in groups that are a guy :P

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hehehe Let me know when you have screenshots please so I can remove them Keep my attachment sizes down

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Group Name: Aces
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 1 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Revolution Francaise, La (1989)(Legend)(Fr)[cr Aces - Piranhas]
Found another crack for this group!

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Group Name: Ache
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 10 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Home Alone (1991)(Accolade)[cr SKR][h Ache + Extensors]
Set: Home Alone (1991)(Accolade)[cr SKR][h Ache + Extensors][a]
Set: Beast Busters (1992)(Activision)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr SKR][t Ache]
Ache is correct, but extensors is actually extenors, but that might be a typo in the actual hacked screen! They also have an abbreviation (Screenshot) but nothing else in tosec for them it seems!
Plenty for extensors tho!

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Group Name: Acid
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: -
Found in: 2 set(s)
Valid: Unknown
Set: Space Quest II - Volhaul's Revenge v2.0F (1988)(Sierra)[h Acid]
Set: Dynamite Dux (1989)(Activision)[cr Dragons][t +1 Acid][b errdms]
Acid look like they worked with cracking groups or did not alot

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Group Name: Ackerlight
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Ackerlight ?
Found in: 103 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: 20000 Lieues Sous les Mers (1988)(Infogrames)(Fr)[cr Ackerlight][tr en]
Set: 20000 Lieues Sous les Mers (1988)(Infogrames)(Fr)[cr Ackerlight][tr en][a]
Set: Action Service (1989)(Cobra Soft - Infogrames)[cr Ackerlight]
Ackerlight were a well known cracking group on the amiga, and searching the games and apps alone gave me 82 matches!

Here's a couple!

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Group Name: Acme
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Acme_(old) ?
Found in: 1 set(s)
Valid: Yes
Set: No Exit (1990)(Coktel Vision)[cr PDX][t +3 Acme]
and

Quote:
Group Name: ACME
Abbreviation: -
Full Name(?): -
Info: Amstrad Sets should use: ACME Hacking Co.
Amiga sets should use Acme? (need to be checked)
Found in: 13 set(s)
Valid: Attention
Set: Narc (1990)(Ocean)[cr Angels - Defjam][t +4 ACME]
Set: Pop-Up (1990)(Infogrames)[cr SKR][t +8 ACME]
Are the same I guess ACME is correct, so will make the correction, though it is difficult when the only lettering they use for all their intro's/trainers is uppercase, even in their Megademo!!

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Hmmm found a trainer that shows ACCESS using the ACS abbreviation! Check the bottom of the screenshot. It says "vampirekiller/acs isn't sleeping now"

and the second is near the top

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