Fusion Forty Problems :(

THX1138 · 25 January 2004, 13:52

Ok........Just installed a Fusion Forty 040 accelerator board
into my A2000.

Tested the results with sysinfo and it reported a Dhrytstones
result of 1805.....which is very poor indeed considering my 68030
in my other A2000 gets 5479 !

Now,i haven't yet installed the Fusion Forty installation disk yet,but do you really think this would make a difference

Also the A2000 only has 0.5 of chip ram,dunno what difference
that woud make.....

Sysinfo also reports no FPU in use,

I was expecting to get a result of rougly twice as much as my 68030 processor !

Any comments much appreciated.

RetroMan · 25 January 2004, 14:49

Any Accelerator is pretty useless without any FastRam

It makes HELL of a difference, just try a Blizz 2040 with and without Ram .... there are worlds between the results

Toni Wilen · 25 January 2004, 15:24

Missing 68040.library?

THX1138 · 25 January 2004, 16:47

Quote:

Any Accelerator is pretty useless without any FastRam

Sorry.....forgot to mention that it has 20mb of fastram

I will try installing the software to see if that will make ne difference

just4funuk · 14 December 2005, 02:16

Well I have just purchased a Fusion Forty and I ran sysinfo and mine also has 20MB of fast ram but I do have 1MB of chip memory to.

My scores are

Drystones 9855
A600 68000 7Mhz 18.62 Times Faster
B2000 68000 7Mhz 14.09 Times Faster
A1200 EC020 14Mhz 8.09 Times Faster
A2500 68020 14Mhz 4.79 Times faster
A3000 68030 25Mhz 2.12 Times faster
A4000 68040 25Mhz 0.54 Just over Half speed of A4000 040 25Mhz

Mips 10.28 Mflops 5.31

DoctorQ · 14 December 2005, 08:52

What Kickstart are you guys using (THX1138 & just4funk)? I was quite disappointet as well when I installed a 030 accelerator in my A500 and only getting a third of what a 020 accelerator scored in the same machine. Since the 020 had Kickstart 3.0 installed and the 030 had Kickstart 1.3 I'm hoping that if I upgrade to Kickstart 2.0 or 3.1 that I will get higher scores, based on the thought that it might be the Kickstart that is setting the limit regarding accelerators. I don't know if they are, but it's worth a try.

THX1138 · 14 December 2005, 19:51

Well i got rid of my Fusion Forty,as i wasn't very happy with its performance.....maybe it was me....dunno !

But since i posted this thread nearly 2 years ago.......I have now acquired a screamingly fast Blizzard 2060,and very nice it is too

just4funuk · 14 December 2005, 21:03

Im happy wth scores My Fusion Forty is returning.

8.09 Times Faster than A1200
4.79 Times faster than A 2500
2.12 Times faster than A3000
half the speed of A4000/040

The the 68040 on mine is the Full 68040 not cut down version dont know if Fusion forty's where available with different versions of the 68040.

Kickstart Version on my machine is quite old
37.175 (Ver 2.00)

Have just started to give this A2000 a new lease of life after its been sitting at my mothers for nearly 5 years.

Thanks to ebay

Got Fusion Forty from USA
Got SCSI card from UK

What next?

Have to wait little while money tight at the moment.

A2000
Fusion Forty (68040 + 1MB Chip 20MB Fast memory)
1GB SCSI HD (Big enough for Now)

Would like to put CDrom on it
Using 720K PC floppies takes to Long :-(.

Have the CDROM Drive but limited where to put HD if put CDROM in machine.(but needs to be done) As have loads of Cover CDs want to play with.

Might attempt this over the Christmas period .

THX1138

What sort of Results do you get wth your new board?

THX1138 · 16 December 2005, 18:55

Dhrystones reports : 37418

30 x quicker than a stock 1200
18 x quicker than a stock 2500
8 x quicker than a stock 3000
2 x quicker than a stock 4000 !

I love this card.......hahaha

Upgrade to 3.1 roms and put a graphics card in there as well !

I have a Cybervision 64\3D and a Cdrom drive in mine too !

Most look straight at my 3000T & 4000T,but lurking in the dark corner
of my room is this monster........hahaha........I love it !

just4funuk · 18 December 2005, 22:58

Well I was happy before you posted your scores.

Knew 68060 was going to be faster but didnt expect that much of a gap.

Might try sysinfo on pc running emulator see what scores I get.

Still am happy with Fusion (It was a lot cheaper than your 68060 I suspect) 1/4 price = 1/4 the speed. :-) Well thats what Im going to keep telling myself.

THX1138 · 19 December 2005, 19:44

Well,i don't know what price you paid for your Fusion Forty.......and i can't remember exactly how much i paid for my 68060,but i wouldn't of got much change out of £150.00 !

just4funuk · 20 December 2005, 00:37

Paid £75 for the Fusion Forty.(More than I wanted but it came from the states.As I hadnt seen many A2000 accelerators around. Mainly seem to be A1200 Accelerators thought I better get it.Getting up at 5 in the morning did sort of help to.Didnt want to get up for nothing.

Sounds like you got your Accelerator for a good price.

.

just4funuk · 20 December 2005, 02:13

Have just found util on Fusion Forty Disk Called FFCache that enables Cache.

Didnt Expect much Difference But Im Glad I was wrong.

Inst: Cache Noburst
Data: Cache No Burst

New WELL Improved Sysinfo scores

Dhrystone 20662
A600 6800 7Mhz 39.05
A2000 6800 7Mhz 29.55
A1200 EC020 14Mhz 16.97
A2500 68020 14Mhz 10.04
A3000 68030 25Mhz 4.46
A4000 68040 25Mhz 1.13

Mips 21.56 Mflops 5.47
Chip speed VS A600 2.03

Well Im Very Happy with Scores above.

As its Faster now than the A4000 EC/030 I sold in 1999. (If only it had AGA Graphics

)

Calabazam · 29 December 2005, 22:18

just4funuk:

You definitely have to install setup disks

I was amazed by your previous sysinfo, knowing that 68040 boards on A1200 are hitting about 20000 dhrystones!

25 January 2004, 13:52	#1
THX1138 Amiga Centurai Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 526	Fusion Forty Problems :( Ok........Just installed a Fusion Forty 040 accelerator board into my A2000. Tested the results with sysinfo and it reported a Dhrytstones result of 1805.....which is very poor indeed considering my 68030 in my other A2000 gets 5479 ! Now,i haven't yet installed the Fusion Forty installation disk yet,but do you really think this would make a difference Also the A2000 only has 0.5 of chip ram,dunno what difference that woud make..... Sysinfo also reports no FPU in use, I was expecting to get a result of rougly twice as much as my 68030 processor ! Any comments much appreciated. Last edited by THX1138; 25 January 2004 at 14:04.

14 December 2005, 02:16	#5
just4funuk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 51 Posts: 17	Got Fusion forty 2 weeks ago here are my sysinfo V3.24 scores Well I have just purchased a Fusion Forty and I ran sysinfo and mine also has 20MB of fast ram but I do have 1MB of chip memory to. My scores are Drystones 9855 A600 68000 7Mhz 18.62 Times Faster B2000 68000 7Mhz 14.09 Times Faster A1200 EC020 14Mhz 8.09 Times Faster A2500 68020 14Mhz 4.79 Times faster A3000 68030 25Mhz 2.12 Times faster A4000 68040 25Mhz 0.54 Just over Half speed of A4000 040 25Mhz Mips 10.28 Mflops 5.31

14 December 2005, 21:03	#8
just4funuk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 51 Posts: 17	Fusion Forty Im happy wth scores My Fusion Forty is returning. 8.09 Times Faster than A1200 4.79 Times faster than A 2500 2.12 Times faster than A3000 half the speed of A4000/040 The the 68040 on mine is the Full 68040 not cut down version dont know if Fusion forty's where available with different versions of the 68040. Kickstart Version on my machine is quite old 37.175 (Ver 2.00) Have just started to give this A2000 a new lease of life after its been sitting at my mothers for nearly 5 years. Thanks to ebay Got Fusion Forty from USA Got SCSI card from UK What next? Have to wait little while money tight at the moment. A2000 Fusion Forty (68040 + 1MB Chip 20MB Fast memory) 1GB SCSI HD (Big enough for Now) Would like to put CDrom on it Using 720K PC floppies takes to Long :-(. Have the CDROM Drive but limited where to put HD if put CDROM in machine.(but needs to be done) As have loads of Cover CDs want to play with. Might attempt this over the Christmas period . THX1138 What sort of Results do you get wth your new board? Last edited by just4funuk; 15 December 2005 at 00:45.

16 December 2005, 18:55	#9
THX1138 Amiga Centurai Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 526	Dhrystones reports : 37418 30 x quicker than a stock 1200 18 x quicker than a stock 2500 8 x quicker than a stock 3000 2 x quicker than a stock 4000 ! I love this card.......hahaha Upgrade to 3.1 roms and put a graphics card in there as well ! I have a Cybervision 64\3D and a Cdrom drive in mine too ! Most look straight at my 3000T & 4000T,but lurking in the dark corner of my room is this monster........hahaha........I love it ! Last edited by THX1138; 16 December 2005 at 19:07.

18 December 2005, 22:58	#10
just4funuk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 51 Posts: 17	Fusion Forty Well I was happy before you posted your scores. Knew 68060 was going to be faster but didnt expect that much of a gap. Might try sysinfo on pc running emulator see what scores I get. Still am happy with Fusion (It was a lot cheaper than your 68060 I suspect) 1/4 price = 1/4 the speed. :-) Well thats what Im going to keep telling myself.

25 January 2004, 14:49	#2
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Any Accelerator is pretty useless without any FastRam It makes HELL of a difference, just try a Blizz 2040 with and without Ram .... there are worlds between the results

25 January 2004, 15:24	#3
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Missing 68040.library?

14 December 2005, 08:52	#6
DoctorQ What?? Who?? DoctorQ!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rødding/Denmark Age: 43 Posts: 314	What Kickstart are you guys using (THX1138 & just4funk)? I was quite disappointet as well when I installed a 030 accelerator in my A500 and only getting a third of what a 020 accelerator scored in the same machine. Since the 020 had Kickstart 3.0 installed and the 030 had Kickstart 1.3 I'm hoping that if I upgrade to Kickstart 2.0 or 3.1 that I will get higher scores, based on the thought that it might be the Kickstart that is setting the limit regarding accelerators. I don't know if they are, but it's worth a try.

14 December 2005, 19:51	#7
THX1138 Amiga Centurai Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 526	Well i got rid of my Fusion Forty,as i wasn't very happy with its performance.....maybe it was me....dunno ! But since i posted this thread nearly 2 years ago.......I have now acquired a screamingly fast Blizzard 2060,and very nice it is too

19 December 2005, 19:44	#11
THX1138 Amiga Centurai Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 526	Well,i don't know what price you paid for your Fusion Forty.......and i can't remember exactly how much i paid for my 68060,but i wouldn't of got much change out of £150.00 !

20 December 2005, 00:37	#12
just4funuk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 51 Posts: 17	Fusion Forty Paid £75 for the Fusion Forty.(More than I wanted but it came from the states.As I hadnt seen many A2000 accelerators around. Mainly seem to be A1200 Accelerators thought I better get it.Getting up at 5 in the morning did sort of help to.Didnt want to get up for nothing. Sounds like you got your Accelerator for a good price. .

20 December 2005, 02:13	#13
just4funuk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 51 Posts: 17	Fusion Forty Have just found util on Fusion Forty Disk Called FFCache that enables Cache. Didnt Expect much Difference But Im Glad I was wrong. Inst: Cache Noburst Data: Cache No Burst New WELL Improved Sysinfo scores Dhrystone 20662 A600 6800 7Mhz 39.05 A2000 6800 7Mhz 29.55 A1200 EC020 14Mhz 16.97 A2500 68020 14Mhz 10.04 A3000 68030 25Mhz 4.46 A4000 68040 25Mhz 1.13 Mips 21.56 Mflops 5.47 Chip speed VS A600 2.03 Well Im Very Happy with Scores above. As its Faster now than the A4000 EC/030 I sold in 1999. (If only it had AGA Graphics )

29 December 2005, 22:18	#14
Calabazam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Posts: 466	just4funuk: You definitely have to install setup disks I was amazed by your previous sysinfo, knowing that 68040 boards on A1200 are hitting about 20000 dhrystones!

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