Can I use this to connect a CD-ROM drive?

BlueAchenar · 28 September 2008, 23:14

Probably a stupid question, but could I use this PCMCIA to IDE adapter (or other one) to connect a laptop CD-ROM drive to my Amiga 1200 (without having to program new drivers preferably :P)?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PCMCIA-TO-IDE-...d=p3286.c0.m14

Either way, would it be possible if I actually coded drivers for it?

mfilos · 28 September 2008, 23:49

I dunno if it could work but why don't you go for it anyway? It's only 5$

I used to have this PCMCIA to IDE controller (and IIRC I only used the IDEfix software for it to work).

I'm very tempted just to get one to try just for the fun of it

BlueAchenar · 28 September 2008, 23:59

If I bought all PCMCIA cards I thought I might do something with them on the Amiga, I'd go bankrupt...

For example, I'm looking at an external PCMCIA connected DVD-RW drive right now...

Fingerlickin_B · 29 September 2008, 03:35

Interesting...so interesting that I just bought one!

Will answer your question as soon as it arrives!

PZ.

BlueAchenar · 29 September 2008, 12:45

I also bought one.

I'm just trying to figure out how to connect an ATAPI drive to this thing. I can't find suitable adapters (at least ones which provide power to the drive).

Edit:

Finally found one, but it's a little expensive...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/44-pin-laptop-...3286.m63.l1177

AlfaRomeo · 29 September 2008, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueAchenar

I also bought one.

I'm just trying to figure out how to connect an ATAPI drive to this thing.

Hey BlueAchenar, after you try that pcmcia connector tell us if it works or not

BlueAchenar · 29 September 2008, 22:06

It'll have to arrive first.

And I still have to setup and install a CF hard drive and 3.1 ROMs in the Amiga. Might take a while...

It'd be great if it worked (and cheap). I certainly think the hardware is capable if the card is really PCMCIA v2.1 16-bit. I just don't know about the software...

If someone finds a cheap JAE (Slimline) to 44-pin IDE connector adapter which uses the IDE power lines please let me know.

rkauer · 29 September 2008, 22:28

I've found an old Epson laptop CD with regular 44 pins IDE. I will grab it and tell you how it goes.

alexh · 30 September 2008, 11:34

I would be amazed if it worked.

What drivers are you going to use?

I find it hard to believe that IDEFix97 has PCMCIA drivers?!?

BlueAchenar · 30 September 2008, 12:55

If I knew for sure this would work, I wouldn't have asked.

Then again, not knowing will be more fun when I finally get to try it.

alexh · 30 September 2008, 13:24

I think you stand a chance of getting it working using the driver from the Alfa Data CD1200 installation disk

On that (non booting) disk you'll find two device drivers in /devs.

"tandemat_pcmcia.device"
"tandemcd_pcmcia.device"

Just like a CF card adapter, the Alfa Data CD1200 and your board will effectively be no more than wires. The software is key here.

I suspect you'll need one of those two device drivers for IDE over the PCMCIA port and use it with IDEFix97 for ATAPI support via that device driver.

alexh · 30 September 2008, 13:56

The more research I do the more it is looking likely that you will be able to get this interface to work.

The drivers on the Alfa CD1200 disk (above) are the last version (41.6) and are the same drivers as for the Tandem Zorro II IDE card.

I wonder if these devices are similar, hardware & driver wise, to the IDE interface on the X-Surf card?

I look forward to seeing if you have any success.

Fingerlickin_B · 07 October 2008, 12:32

Mine arrived today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

"tandemat_pcmcia.device"
"tandemcd_pcmcia.device"

Tried these drivers (they are actually included with IDEFix97 too).

Nope, it does not work.

Ah well, only cost a few clams & now others know not to bother.

All part of the fun though

PZ.

BlueAchenar · 07 October 2008, 12:36

Well, mine still hasn't arrived. Programming the drivers will be fun also if I get the time to do it.

BlueAchenar · 11 October 2008, 23:32

The adapter finally arrived and it worked on my laptop for about 15 minutes before dying on me... excellent quality

The good news is I've finally installed a CF hard drive on my Amiga and I'm still trying to get my CF PCMCIA reader to work (driver installation) since the tcp/ip stack for my wireless card takes too much ram. Also, my RGB to s-video adapter died on me and I have to fix it.

I'll send this card back for a replacement and then I'll try to make it work.

28 September 2008, 23:14	#1
BlueAchenar Not dead yet!!! :D Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aveiro / Portugal Age: 42 Posts: 690	Can I use this to connect a CD-ROM drive? Probably a stupid question, but could I use this PCMCIA to IDE adapter (or other one) to connect a laptop CD-ROM drive to my Amiga 1200 (without having to program new drivers preferably :P)? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PCMCIA-TO-IDE-...d=p3286.c0.m14 Either way, would it be possible if I actually coded drivers for it?

29 September 2008, 12:45	#5
BlueAchenar Not dead yet!!! :D Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aveiro / Portugal Age: 42 Posts: 690	I also bought one. I'm just trying to figure out how to connect an ATAPI drive to this thing. I can't find suitable adapters (at least ones which provide power to the drive). Edit: Finally found one, but it's a little expensive... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/44-pin-laptop-...3286.m63.l1177 Last edited by BlueAchenar; 29 September 2008 at 12:54.

30 September 2008, 13:24	#11
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,342	I think you stand a chance of getting it working using the driver from the Alfa Data CD1200 installation disk On that (non booting) disk you'll find two device drivers in /devs. "tandemat_pcmcia.device" "tandemcd_pcmcia.device" Just like a CF card adapter, the Alfa Data CD1200 and your board will effectively be no more than wires. The software is key here. I suspect you'll need one of those two device drivers for IDE over the PCMCIA port and use it with IDEFix97 for ATAPI support via that device driver. Last edited by alexh; 30 September 2008 at 13:36.

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28 September 2008, 23:49	#2
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	I dunno if it could work but why don't you go for it anyway? It's only 5$ I used to have this PCMCIA to IDE controller (and IIRC I only used the IDEfix software for it to work). I'm very tempted just to get one to try just for the fun of it

28 September 2008, 23:59	#3
BlueAchenar Not dead yet!!! :D Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aveiro / Portugal Age: 42 Posts: 690	If I bought all PCMCIA cards I thought I might do something with them on the Amiga, I'd go bankrupt... For example, I'm looking at an external PCMCIA connected DVD-RW drive right now...

29 September 2008, 03:35	#4
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Interesting...so interesting that I just bought one! Will answer your question as soon as it arrives! PZ.

29 September 2008, 22:06	#7
BlueAchenar Not dead yet!!! :D Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aveiro / Portugal Age: 42 Posts: 690	It'll have to arrive first. And I still have to setup and install a CF hard drive and 3.1 ROMs in the Amiga. Might take a while... It'd be great if it worked (and cheap). I certainly think the hardware is capable if the card is really PCMCIA v2.1 16-bit. I just don't know about the software... If someone finds a cheap JAE (Slimline) to 44-pin IDE connector adapter which uses the IDE power lines please let me know.

29 September 2008, 22:28	#8
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	I've found an old Epson laptop CD with regular 44 pins IDE. I will grab it and tell you how it goes.

30 September 2008, 11:34	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,342	I would be amazed if it worked. What drivers are you going to use? I find it hard to believe that IDEFix97 has PCMCIA drivers?!?

30 September 2008, 12:55	#10
BlueAchenar Not dead yet!!! :D Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aveiro / Portugal Age: 42 Posts: 690	If I knew for sure this would work, I wouldn't have asked. Then again, not knowing will be more fun when I finally get to try it.

30 September 2008, 13:56	#12
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,342	The more research I do the more it is looking likely that you will be able to get this interface to work. The drivers on the Alfa CD1200 disk (above) are the last version (41.6) and are the same drivers as for the Tandem Zorro II IDE card. I wonder if these devices are similar, hardware & driver wise, to the IDE interface on the X-Surf card? I look forward to seeing if you have any success.

07 October 2008, 12:36	#14
BlueAchenar Not dead yet!!! :D Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aveiro / Portugal Age: 42 Posts: 690	Well, mine still hasn't arrived. Programming the drivers will be fun also if I get the time to do it.

11 October 2008, 23:32	#15
BlueAchenar Not dead yet!!! :D Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aveiro / Portugal Age: 42 Posts: 690	The adapter finally arrived and it worked on my laptop for about 15 minutes before dying on me... excellent quality The good news is I've finally installed a CF hard drive on my Amiga and I'm still trying to get my CF PCMCIA reader to work (driver installation) since the tcp/ip stack for my wireless card takes too much ram. Also, my RGB to s-video adapter died on me and I have to fix it. I'll send this card back for a replacement and then I'll try to make it work.

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