17 August 2017, 16:52 | #41 |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ?
Posts: 19,645
|
|
17 August 2017, 17:43 | #42 | |
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kansas
Posts: 1,284
|
Quote:
The problem with MUI is that many things are expected or automatic rather than purely optional which uses more resources and enforces a certain style. That style differs from the Amiga User Interface Style Guide standards. Some MUI features are useful and save time for developers and should be considered for the standard AmigaOS GUI. MUI's importance due to the number of apps using it is not in doubt but the reliance on a 3rd party GUI for what should be a standard and consistent AmigaOS GUI is not good, IMO. I do worry about the resources needed if Workbench/workbench.library used MUI. Wanderer in AROS using Zune (AROS MUI) is huge (several times the AmigaOS 3.9 Workbench size). Last edited by matthey; 17 August 2017 at 18:12. |
|
17 August 2017, 22:57 | #43 |
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 527
|
Sorry for joining the off-topic 'MUI' here. Actually I am a bit disappointed at the number of apps actually using it. Were it not for Poseidon I am not sure I would need it. E.g. I would love a decent file manager. Unfortunately, RO has issues with large drives.
|
18 August 2017, 00:16 | #44 | |
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kansas
Posts: 1,284
|
Quote:
|
|
18 August 2017, 01:16 | #45 |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse
Posts: 3,365
|
Ok, everybody here has his favourite file manager, but I still prefer DOpus 4.17pre21. It needs a lot of work to configure it optimal for your personal demands, and I did that already 25 years ago, but I think it's one of the best tools even under OS 3.9. If you need the german localization I could upload it to the Zone.
http://dopus.free.fr/ Last edited by PeterK; 18 August 2017 at 01:25. |
18 August 2017, 03:23 | #46 | |
BoingBagged
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The South of nowhere
Age: 46
Posts: 2,358
|
Quote:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=676315&postcount=10 |
|
18 August 2017, 13:05 | #47 |
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 527
|
My point was not generally about (excellent) other file managers but specifically about a MUI-FileManager.
|
18 August 2017, 16:34 | #48 | ||
Computer Nerd
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Rotterdam/Netherlands
Age: 47
Posts: 3,751
|
Sorry to go off-topic again, but I just had too
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
18 August 2017, 16:34 | #49 |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ?
Posts: 19,645
|
How about making a "MUI FILE MANAGER" thread or whatever, instead of writing here?
And how abut making a "Let's talk about how shitty Windows Whatever is" thread? |
18 August 2017, 17:43 | #50 |
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 4,332
|
Yeah, let's talk about Vampire and CPU code density instead.
|
18 August 2017, 18:21 | #51 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Stoke-On-Trent, England
Posts: 450
|
It's a shame there isn't a central Database of the various library versions stating what's been changed, what depends on another version of a different library etc.
|
18 August 2017, 18:42 | #52 | |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ?
Posts: 19,645
|
Quote:
Perhaps Foul can slowly add it to his archives at https://amiga.foul.fr/ |
|
18 August 2017, 19:00 | #53 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Stoke-On-Trent, England
Posts: 450
|
Quote:
Would be handy for building your own WB setup. At the moment you have got what the guy(s) who built ClassicWB have decided to put in there pack, same for BetterWB and AmiKit etc. But there's no real info on why any of it is in there. The other option is to start from scratch and put what you want in but I find it hard to know what to put in and what versions will it run with X CPU and what are the benefits to each library or device version etc. |
|
18 August 2017, 20:02 | #54 |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ?
Posts: 19,645
|
|
18 August 2017, 20:44 | #55 |
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 3,303
|
It is part of OS development. So... On the other hand it is simple. If you want to upgrade OS3.1 with more then a handful libs/datatypes/... then install OS3.9.
|
18 August 2017, 21:32 | #56 |
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Minehead / UK
Posts: 608
|
I've read numerous times in this thread references to installing 3.9 and then 'pruning it down' to remove bloat, or regain the performance boost, etc. Are there any good articles or topics anywhere on this?
I don't really have a problem on my main system since it's a 68060 with 128MB of ram, and will soon get a Picasso, but I'm very interested in learning about this for my A1200 and, at the end of the day, for general interest. Thanks. [EDIT] Not that it really matters but I have an original 3.9 CD. |
19 August 2017, 01:48 | #57 |
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 4,332
|
Replace the icons and throw out stuff from WBStartup. You don't need AmiDock or BenchTrash.
|
19 August 2017, 12:52 | #58 |
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Minehead / UK
Posts: 608
|
OK, well if that's all that people are concerned about with 3.9 then I'm good because I like the icons and with PeterK's library plus an 060 and Oktagon IDE they draw fast enough. I've also already dumped AmiDock and BenchTrash.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | |
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
workbench.library 45.132 patch to try out | PeterK | Coders. System | 37 | 17 October 2017 13:32 |
Cloanto 3.x Rom A1200 install - Workbench.library? | ccorkin | support.Hardware | 9 | 10 April 2017 01:41 |
well i have update my Workbench to Classic Workbench | mcbone | Amiga scene | 0 | 02 May 2015 21:22 |
Mediator pci.library update | Bamiga2002 | News | 3 | 02 January 2011 12:31 |
REQ: CGX update -> CGXSYSTEM.LIBRARY v42.7 | keropi | request.Apps | 8 | 05 November 2006 22:04 |
|
|