Who has a picasso IV?

alexh · 12 July 2005, 10:16

I wanted to do a poll but couldnt work out how to do it

I'm trying to find out how many readers have a Picasso IV.

Why?

I am looking into the practical possibility of bringing back the Concierto addon, either as a direct clone, or a slightly improved design.

As a Classic Amiga user, with no Zorro slots left, no money or willingness to get a PCI solution, I was thinking that the Concierto would be a good way of getting 16-bit sound to my Amiga?

The owners to the rights to make Picasso IV addons are willing to allow a 3rd party production run / new product.

Anyone (seriously) interested?

Jope · 12 July 2005, 10:51

I have a PIV with Concierto. ;-)

keropi · 12 July 2005, 10:53

I wish I had a videoslot, so to put a pIV on my miggy...

MrZammler · 12 July 2005, 11:03

I have a Picasso IV, would be interested in such add-ons ;-) Shame the local pci bus of the card to be wasted!

alexh · 12 July 2005, 11:40

There is no arbitration or bus mastering on the PCI bus making it less than useful.

The Concierto (despite reports to the contrary) is effectively a programmed I/O ISA device.

redblade · 13 July 2005, 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

I wanted to do a poll but couldnt work out how to do it

I'm trying to find out how many readers have a Picasso IV.

Why?

I am looking into the practical possibility of bringing back the Concierto addon, either as a direct clone, or a slightly improved design.

As a Classic Amiga user, with no Zorro slots left, no money or willingness to get a PCI solution, I was thinking that the Concierto would be a good way of getting 16-bit sound to my Amiga?

The owners to the rights to make Picasso IV addons are willing to allow a 3rd party production run / new product.

Anyone (seriously) interested?

are you going to develop new amiga hardware?!?

alexh · 13 July 2005, 11:25

No. We're *thinking* of making old amiga hardware

Perhaps 50 or 100 Concierto's.

The cheapest way for a Picasso IV owner to add an AHI compatible 16-bit soundcard to their Amiga.

MrZammler · 13 July 2005, 12:59

Yeap, I would be interested. Is there a price estimate?

alexh · 13 July 2005, 13:04

Not at this point in time.

But because it's just a codec and not a DSP or anything (i.e. no hardware MPEG audio decoding) it will be almost certainly lower priced than any sound card currently on sale (are there any on sale?).

We have neither the inclination or the time to produce anything other than a direct clone.

Effy · 14 July 2005, 10:52

Soundcards for Amiga ? Delfina Flipper for 129 euro that you can connect to the clockport at an A1200 / Xsurf or to the expansion slot of an Individual Computers board, Repulse Zorro card for 159 euro and these are the ones I found in two minutes time

A 2nd hand Toccata goes on Ebay for 50 euro, sometimes more, sometimes less ...

alexh · 14 July 2005, 10:55

Delfina / Repulse are both are a lot of money dont you think?

The Delfina Flipper is no use for Big-box-Amiga's who dont have an X-Surf.

I've seen the occaisional bargain on Tocatta cards....

Effy · 14 July 2005, 10:58

They are not so cheap, that´s true, but I was just gently trying to answer your question "are there any on sale?"

alexh · 14 July 2005, 12:55

The repulse is interesting, I didnt know that was still onsale.

Gavilan · 18 July 2005, 16:55

alexh: im proud owner of a Picasso IV. Would love to get a Concierto add-on as well!! So count me in!!!

Cheers

Sebastian

macce2 · 11 August 2005, 14:00

I have a PicassoIV, too. Bought one recently. I'd be also interested in Concierto or any other add-ons PicassoIV.

macce2 · 11 August 2005, 14:02

Does anyone know is there any zorro3-supporting soundcards available for Amiga?

keropi · 11 August 2005, 14:05

I don't think zorroIII soundcards exist...

alexh · 12 August 2005, 13:12

Still waiting on Tobias Sieler (current Picasso copyright owner) to get back to me.

Severin · 12 August 2005, 15:21

I have a P-IV, no concertio though, but I doubt I would want one anymore as my A4000 rarely gets used since I got my µA1

CU_AMiGA · 24 March 2007, 23:08

sorry to bang up an old thread, but what happened to this? i own a piv now and would like to own a concierto soundcard. i had the chance to get one twice on ebay, but got outbidded twice!

they go for quite a bit!

12 July 2005, 10:16	#1
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	Who has a picasso IV? I wanted to do a poll but couldnt work out how to do it I'm trying to find out how many readers have a Picasso IV. Why? I am looking into the practical possibility of bringing back the Concierto addon, either as a direct clone, or a slightly improved design. As a Classic Amiga user, with no Zorro slots left, no money or willingness to get a PCI solution, I was thinking that the Concierto would be a good way of getting 16-bit sound to my Amiga? The owners to the rights to make Picasso IV addons are willing to allow a 3rd party production run / new product. Anyone (seriously) interested?

13 July 2005, 13:04	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	Not at this point in time. But because it's just a codec and not a DSP or anything (i.e. no hardware MPEG audio decoding) it will be almost certainly lower priced than any sound card currently on sale (are there any on sale?). We have neither the inclination or the time to produce anything other than a direct clone. Last edited by alexh; 13 July 2005 at 13:21.

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12 July 2005, 10:51	#2
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,864	I have a PIV with Concierto. ;-)

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keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	I wish I had a videoslot, so to put a pIV on my miggy...

12 July 2005, 11:03	#4
MrZammler Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crete Age: 46 Posts: 191	I have a Picasso IV, would be interested in such add-ons ;-) Shame the local pci bus of the card to be wasted!

12 July 2005, 11:40	#5
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	There is no arbitration or bus mastering on the PCI bus making it less than useful. The Concierto (despite reports to the contrary) is effectively a programmed I/O ISA device.

13 July 2005, 11:25	#7
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	No. We're thinking of making old amiga hardware Perhaps 50 or 100 Concierto's. The cheapest way for a Picasso IV owner to add an AHI compatible 16-bit soundcard to their Amiga.

13 July 2005, 12:59	#8
MrZammler Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crete Age: 46 Posts: 191	Yeap, I would be interested. Is there a price estimate?

14 July 2005, 10:52	#10
Effy http://www.amigaclub.be/ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Age: 56 Posts: 677	Soundcards for Amiga ? Delfina Flipper for 129 euro that you can connect to the clockport at an A1200 / Xsurf or to the expansion slot of an Individual Computers board, Repulse Zorro card for 159 euro and these are the ones I found in two minutes time A 2nd hand Toccata goes on Ebay for 50 euro, sometimes more, sometimes less ...

14 July 2005, 10:55	#11
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	Delfina / Repulse are both are a lot of money dont you think? The Delfina Flipper is no use for Big-box-Amiga's who dont have an X-Surf. I've seen the occaisional bargain on Tocatta cards....

14 July 2005, 10:58	#12
Effy http://www.amigaclub.be/ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Age: 56 Posts: 677	They are not so cheap, that´s true, but I was just gently trying to answer your question "are there any on sale?"

14 July 2005, 12:55	#13
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	The repulse is interesting, I didnt know that was still onsale.

18 July 2005, 16:55	#14
Gavilan Amiga user & abuser Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: BUENOS AIRES, ARGENTINA Age: 48 Posts: 178	alexh: im proud owner of a Picasso IV. Would love to get a Concierto add-on as well!! So count me in!!! Cheers Sebastian

11 August 2005, 14:00	#15
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,220	I have a PicassoIV, too. Bought one recently. I'd be also interested in Concierto or any other add-ons PicassoIV.

11 August 2005, 14:02	#16
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,220	Does anyone know is there any zorro3-supporting soundcards available for Amiga?

11 August 2005, 14:05	#17
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	I don't think zorroIII soundcards exist...

12 August 2005, 13:12	#18
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	Still waiting on Tobias Sieler (current Picasso copyright owner) to get back to me.

12 August 2005, 15:21	#19
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Posts: 700	I have a P-IV, no concertio though, but I doubt I would want one anymore as my A4000 rarely gets used since I got my µA1

24 March 2007, 23:08	#20
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	sorry to bang up an old thread, but what happened to this? i own a piv now and would like to own a concierto soundcard. i had the chance to get one twice on ebay, but got outbidded twice! they go for quite a bit!

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