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Old 19 February 2023, 16:36   #1
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Umilator (aka Amithlon 2.0) DemoCD Preview

Hi
I've recently found my old DemoCD of Umilator, and got it running under VirtualBox.

Thought some people might want to see it in action, so i prepared a small video:

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Old 19 February 2023, 17:50   #2
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i hope this demoCD after so many years could be released
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Old 19 February 2023, 17:55   #3
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i hope this democd after so many years could be released
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Old 19 February 2023, 21:14   #4
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DemoCD of Umilator
This is so cool, remember reading of the Umilator many years ago, Thank you for sharing the video.

Also would like to try/test out the Demo CD iso.
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Old 20 February 2023, 10:04   #5
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Although i can't promise *anything* as of now!

I am currently reaching out to the IP holders of the products on the CD, to see if they would accept to have this DemoCD released to the puplic purely for historic reasons.

Two more weeks (just kidding)

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Old 20 February 2023, 13:06   #6
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I never knew Umilator ever got to the point of demo releases!

Cool to see.
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Old 20 February 2023, 20:07   #7
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I really hope that it's permitted, but I've learned to be pessimistic about such things
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Old 20 February 2023, 21:27   #8
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I really hope that it's permitted, but I've learned to be pessimistic about such things
That is so true that sometimes it's better not to ask and simply share what we have preserved to be sure it will be preserved further...
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Old 21 February 2023, 07:25   #9
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It would be great to see this shared. I would be most interested mainly in testing the picasso96 drivers :-)
Thanks for the video.
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Old 21 February 2023, 08:08   #10
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Umilator, so close yet so far. In Portugal we have a saying "morrer na praia" and umilator, as so many things Amiga related, had so much potential and then got stopped. Thanks God we had PPC
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Old 22 February 2023, 20:40   #11
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Commodore would have needed to recompile KS/WB to x86 if they had survived just 2 more years in reality. All that guff talk about HP RISC or other very expensive CPUs for their future systems (which they touted would use the Win NT as the host OS for the "A5000" etc) had it the wrong way round.

Amiga could only go the way of Apple, x86. Anything else was terrible £/MIPS. Amithlon proved I was right.
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Old 23 February 2023, 10:54   #12
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For anyone that wasn't already aware, Bernie has replied in a thread over on aw.net that I created to relay this one.

https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb...=44854&forum=8
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Old 23 February 2023, 11:41   #13
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For anyone that wasn't already aware, Bernie has replied in a thread over on aw.net that I created to relay this one.

https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb...=44854&forum=8

Thanks for the link.
BTW, there is a discussion about the sources and maybe I missed it but where did he gave an answer regarding the Umilator Demo CD and the share of it ?
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Old 23 February 2023, 11:54   #14
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Thanks for the link.
BTW, there is a discussion about the sources and maybe I missed it but where did he gave an answer regarding the Umilator Demo CD and the share of it ?
He did not give an answer to that publicly, And he is not the only one that needs to give permission for this to be released to the puplic.
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Old 24 February 2023, 01:21   #15
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I doubt the IP holder has the financial means to even get a lawyer to write a standard letter let alone a Peyo style quest to bankrupt somebody releasing a demo CD from decades ago LOL
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It would definitely be nice to have a public release of Umilator. I don't know much, actually anything, about legal rights, but shouldn't we obtain permission from all three parties here? Amiga Inc., Bernd Meyer and P96. Not sure who is the current holder of Amiga OS license, is it Cloanto? I would really like to see a working "Umilator" but I am sort of pessimistic about it. Maybe there is a chance to get the green light for this demo release, for historical and educational reasons, as it is definitely a great piece of software. To actually use it, there is a key needed because demo release is heavily protected, write locked, time-limited, encrypted, who knows, maybe something more. Releasing it as it is, a demo, looks pretty harmless to all parties (if they all agree) but there is not much use for it. Educational reasons still count, to archive it as an awesome piece of work.
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Old 01 April 2023, 14:37   #17
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Did you ever decide if you were going to upload the demo of Umilator?
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Did you ever decide if you were going to upload the demo of Umilator?
Unfortunately.
I have been ignored by the IP holders of this product, or at least put on ice. So i can not in good faith release this CD.
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Uploading an ISO dump to archive.org would probably be your best bet, as they're generally accepted as being a repository or library of files these days.
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Unfortunately.
I have been ignored by the IP holders of this product, or at least put on ice. So i can not in good faith release this CD.
Or release it.
If they care you will quickly know. Which may never happen if nobody cares without wanting to say it.
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