Things you thought you would see in 10 years time...but didnt.... - Page 2

blade002 · 18 April 2008, 12:26

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Originally Posted by spiff

Linux being dead, (that free shit aint gonna fly, hasn't even got a GUI

I thought so too, but now i find myself using it as i type this message.

I wish i was typing away on the Amiga OS though. Still prefer it over every other OS.

laser · 18 April 2008, 18:17

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Originally Posted by Ironclaw

VR, hover board, flying cars, it will all happen some day, I'm sure, and it could have been reality by now if such research was funded, it's all mostly about money.

the future will be like on the 19 century era...horses and oxcarts
the world lacks energy and petroleum to maintain today's style of life

btw,

do you have calculated how many energy is necesary to move a non invented flying car?

do yo have imagined how dangerous can be that flying car for a normal user?

do you have imagined how sickly to the human can be a virtually reality set?

Shoonay · 18 April 2008, 18:48

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Originally Posted by laser

do you have imagined how sickly to the human can be a virtually reality set?

We don't have to, we get the whole picture by reading your posts only...

laser · 19 April 2008, 08:55

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Originally Posted by 5h00n4y

We don't have to, we get the whole picture by reading your posts only...

believe me...very sickly and insane...you can play with the helmet up to 5 minits...after 5 minits you start to feel very bad......and you can eject stomach contents through the mouth

VR was a fashion mode on the era...nothing serious...pure fantasy..even some stupid films were made like "disclosure"

bye

Monsterland · 19 April 2008, 10:12

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Originally Posted by laser

do you have imagined how sickly to the human can be a virtually reality set?

The whole becoming sick issue has probably something to do with the balance organs getting confused, they should find something to trick them in being 'naturaly' stimulated but I guess there isn't much demand for a virtual reality experience of gaming nowadays.

alexh · 19 April 2008, 11:11

Sigh... a naked girl in my bedroom... hmmm

Cough... erm... yes well... Of course I've had a girlfriend in the last 10 years...honest! What do you take me for?? Some sort of geek?

Shoonay · 19 April 2008, 14:26

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Originally Posted by laser

believe me...very sickly and insane...you can play with the helmet up to 5 minits...

OH RLY?

and where did I mention something else?
Try to sit next to you TV. And I don't mean next as on the right or left side, stick yer nose directly to the screen, and try to focus on the action. Headache would be the easiest symptom after half an hour.

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Originally Posted by Monsterland

The whole becoming sick issue has probably something to do with the balance organs getting confused [...]

Exactly. The eye is focusing on something that is physically right next to it/very near, while the mind "sees" distant objects, tries to interprete it and fails.

laffer · 19 April 2008, 19:51

A good job.. a girlfriend.. a nice apartment.. a decent car..

laser · 19 April 2008, 20:31

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Originally Posted by 5h00n4y

OH RLY?

and where did I mention something else?
Try to sit next to you TV. And I don't mean next as on the right or left side, stick yer nose directly to the screen, and try to focus on the action. Headache would be the easiest symptom after half an hour.Exactly. The eye is focusing on something that is physically right next to it/very near, while the mind "sees" distant objects, tries to interprete it and fails.

right...a super brilliant lcd screen very near your eyes confuse the whole human body...I think it's the main problem and can't be solved

also.... non-natural movements of your head up ,down, left,right trying to shoot enemies or trying to recognize the scene cause a severe stress on the neck

bye

Ironclaw · 19 April 2008, 20:31

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Originally Posted by laffer

A good job.. a girlfriend.. a nice apartment.. a decent car..

I actually got none of those, and I'm still happy... no need for those things.

Shoonay · 19 April 2008, 20:40

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Originally Posted by laser

a super brilliant lcd [...]

super brilliant? you've got and lcd that's smarter than you? awesome!

wait, how's that unusual?...

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Originally Posted by laser

[...]confuse the whole human body

yes, even my knees start to shake when a super brilliant lcd looks at me like that...

Jools · 19 April 2008, 22:50

ten years ago i was 11 and playing constantly on my megadrive so all of my dreams usually involved robots, moon dinosaurs and lasers... yeah, not that practical really

it could still happen though *waits another 10 years*

alexh · 20 April 2008, 01:39

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Originally Posted by Ironclaw

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Originally Posted by laffer

A good job.. a girlfriend.. a nice apartment.. a decent car..

I actually got none of those, and I'm still happy... no need for those things.

Three out of four aint too bad? Somehow I thought the other 3 would get me number 4 but it didnt.

Ironclaw · 20 April 2008, 01:41

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Originally Posted by alexh

Three out of four aint too bad? Somehow I thought the other 3 would get me number 4 but it didnt.

Who needs number 4 when there is hookers here and there

.

alexh · 20 April 2008, 01:52

They have "a nice apartment" for sale?

Ironclaw · 20 April 2008, 02:15

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Originally Posted by alexh

They have "a nice apartment" for sale?

Some do, but there are some pretty ugly apartments too, some infested with nasties, so don't forget to bring a protective suit.

spiff · 20 April 2008, 11:15

I just remembered another one, the Sega Gigadrive! Segas super secret project that would kill nintendo, feed the hungry and solve world peace.

I guess that's why the saturn started off as a good 2d system

The VR problem of headaches/puking can be mostly be solved, the basic problems is pretty much the same as seasickness. Motion not being consistent with what we see and the brain interprets as the actual motion.

That like the flying Car is more of a practical limitation on how much you can spend on hardware and environmental laws.

alexh · 20 April 2008, 14:24

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Originally Posted by spiff

The VR problem of headaches/puking can be mostly be solved, the basic problems is pretty much the same as seasickness. Motion not being consistent with what we see and the brain interprets as the actual motion.

I am sure that motion has something to do with feeling sick (the absence of momentum compared to what you eyes are visualising). HOWEVER when I researched VR in 1998 at University, the biggest problem associated with VR systems, and the one attributed to feeling sick had to do with focal planes. (The second biggest was peripheral vision or rather the lack of it).

In the real world 3D scene the eyes can change focal length many times a minute as you look at things around a room at different distances. In VR it is a fixed focal length.

Some work was done on focal length for video games, they realised (something that most people knew for a long time!) that you need depth cueing for a realistic look (i.e. things in the foreground & background need to be out of focus). But it still has a fixed focal length.

It would require a camera or something to monitor a person's eye and change the focal length appropriately.

Or perhaps some new 3D monitor technology that could emmit light in such a way that the eye could focus naturally.

There was this hard limit known as "66 minute limit" that was the maximum length of time anyone had been able to use a VR simulator without puking. I'd have to check but I think this limit probably still exists today?

Anubis · 21 April 2008, 15:52

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Originally Posted by alexh

Sigh... a naked girl in my bedroom... hmmm

Cough... erm... yes well... Of course I've had a girlfriend in the last 10 years...honest! What do you take me for?? Some sort of geek?

Fred does not count as 'the girl'.

1. get married

2. playing all cool consoles of the time on my PC, as well all arcade from my childhood.

3. playing AMIGA games on my PC. And not just Amiga 500 games, but all of them)

4. playing Amiga games without disk swapping. Thank you WHDLoad team!!!

5. getting all games I liked from the time for free or for very little money

6. having the president who speaks less english then I do

7. paying for gallon of fuel more then a buck

8. work as IT... something

9. fall of sega

10. fall of nintendo (will not happen any time soon

)

26 April 2008, 15:51

Back when I was playing my A500/A1200 i never really thought about what was happening when Commodore flunked it. I do remember think that someone would buy up the Amiga brand and that there would be bigger and better things to come. Sadly it never materialised. Somone more gen'd up on here could tell me if this was or is still a possibility?

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19 April 2008, 11:11	#26
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 12,041	Sigh... a naked girl in my bedroom... hmmm Cough... erm... yes well... Of course I've had a girlfriend in the last 10 years...honest! What do you take me for?? Some sort of geek?

19 April 2008, 19:51	#28
laffer Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 1,335	A good job.. a girlfriend.. a nice apartment.. a decent car..

19 April 2008, 22:50	#32
Jools Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London, United Kingdom, (missing Pompey) Age: 31 Posts: 31	ten years ago i was 11 and playing constantly on my megadrive so all of my dreams usually involved robots, moon dinosaurs and lasers... yeah, not that practical really it could still happen though waits another 10 years

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alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 12,041	They have "a nice apartment" for sale?

20 April 2008, 11:15	#37
spiff Oh noes! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Neverland Posts: 662	I just remembered another one, the Sega Gigadrive! Segas super secret project that would kill nintendo, feed the hungry and solve world peace. I guess that's why the saturn started off as a good 2d system The VR problem of headaches/puking can be mostly be solved, the basic problems is pretty much the same as seasickness. Motion not being consistent with what we see and the brain interprets as the actual motion. That like the flying Car is more of a practical limitation on how much you can spend on hardware and environmental laws.

26 April 2008, 15:51	#40
southy Posts: n/a	Back when I was playing my A500/A1200 i never really thought about what was happening when Commodore flunked it. I do remember think that someone would buy up the Amiga brand and that there would be bigger and better things to come. Sadly it never materialised. Somone more gen'd up on here could tell me if this was or is still a possibility?

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