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Arnie · 22 June 2016, 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaninna

Hey I got the drive now, but I think I need some help with setting it up.

It seems like it is "working" at the same time as the internal Gotek drive is "working". It speeds up and down sounding like a sewing machine. What should I do? It does not read disks.

Edit.

I am trying the drive with an A500 with internal floppy drive. No luck: DF1:BAD no matter what floppy I put in the external drive.

Oh dear, that doesn't sound good. The external floppy drive didn't make any noise like a "Sewing Machine" and certainly didn't speed up and down.

I'm afraid to say it, but it looks like your Amiga has damaged it.
(What Amiga model was it?)

"DF1:BAD" indicates that the drive isn't detected, not the disk.

Does your external drive port work O.K in the 500?
Does the drive try to read the disks?
Do you hear the drive clicking? (motor stepping)
Do you hear the drive spin up?
Does the read/write led light up at all or is permanently on?

Try switching the drive off/on (the switch at the rear marked 0/1).
Try with commercial disks. I tested with a Workbench disk and a Coverdisk.
Sometimes disks written on another Amiga wont read if the other Amigas drive is out of alignment (just a thought)

Vaninna · 22 June 2016, 15:06

Here is a video of me starting up workbench two times (sorry about my stuffed nose...)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lyuvs78kg...5_red.m4v?dl=0

You can see that the drive is standby clicking (good).
The read/write light goes on and off (good).
The drive spins up (good).

But it speeds up at the same time as the gotek is working (the green light). So I suspect that the drive is acting a bit like it is DF0...? (Check the video)

Never mind the "sewing machine" comparison, but the sound comes from the drive speeding up with no disk in it.

All I did was carefully connect the drive to the external port drive, with the power off. It is an Amiga 500 with a gotek drive (as seen in the video).

:/

attle · 22 June 2016, 15:34

There are two switches on your Amiga. Are one of those a boot selector switch? Wondering if something's fishy there (shorted?)

Vaninna · 22 June 2016, 15:41

The red one will make it start in kickstart 2.0, at least it says so on the screen, and the other one will switch on expanded 512k memory.

I also have another Amiga 500 with no expansions, but the external drive does work with that one either.

attle · 22 June 2016, 15:48

Have you tried different settings on the "A O B" switch?

Vaninna · 22 June 2016, 15:56

I did, but only with soft reset. I noticed also that the 0/1 switch does not turn off/on the drive unless you do a hard reset in between. I'll try some more switching, but I no not know what the A O B switch does. Also I am afraid that I will destroy anything if I start fooling around with it. Should I turn off the power for all changes I do?

Vaninna · 22 June 2016, 16:55

So it seems to work with the rom switched to 2.0. That is good in a way. It explains why it did not work on my non-modded Amiga 500. How do I make it work with my vanilla Amiga 500? :/

Arnie · 22 June 2016, 19:27

Well, that's good news

The A O B switch is
A for anti virus
O for off
B for blitz copier

Always use the switches or plug the drive in with the Amiga off.

Vaninna · 22 June 2016, 19:33

Ok, thanks!

Is the drive supposed to work with ROM 1.3 (Basic Amiga 500)?

Arnie · 22 June 2016, 19:37

I would think so. I can't remember if I ever used it though, (I'm not a fan of 1.3).

You need to verify that the external drive port works on the 1.3 Amiga.
Did you buy the adapter for the external port?

Vaninna · 22 June 2016, 19:39

The adapter is on its way, but not here yet.

Arnie · 22 June 2016, 19:42

How much memory have you in the 1.3 Amiga?

Vaninna · 22 June 2016, 19:46

The one I am trying on now has a switch for ROM 1.3/2.0 and a switch for RAM 512k or 1mb (512 expansion)

The second Amiga 500 (with red LED btw.) with ROM 1.3 has no extra memory, only 512k.

Arnie · 22 June 2016, 19:49

Is the Amiga running 1.3/2.0 (drive working with 2.0) using 512 or 1mb of ram?

Vaninna · 22 June 2016, 19:52

I just tried that:

the drive works with 1.3 rom if the expanded ram is there too, 1mb.

The drive works with 2.0 rom and/or 1mb it seems.

Arnie · 22 June 2016, 19:56

A shot in the dark, but the only thing I can think of is the power supply of the Vanilla A500 may be unable to power the drive properly?

Vaninna · 22 June 2016, 20:14

I am only testing on the modded Amiga right now, but to my surprise it worked with 1.3/512 when I by accident forgot a floppy in the external drive. I can change floppy a few times but then it starts to make choppy sounds and DF1:BAD shows up.

Edit:

I have tried 2 different power supplies now also.

Vaninna · 23 June 2016, 02:23

Another peculiar thing is that trying to load Black Crypt does not work while the external drive is connected.

I get the message "this machine does not have enough memory" and then it quits. But without the drive connected Black Crypt loads up fine (with 1mb RAM).

This leads me to think that the drive consumes a lot of memory.

Jope · 23 June 2016, 07:39

It doesn't consume a lot, but enough that some software will not run.

Vaninna · 23 June 2016, 09:53

do you know If a gotek consumes more memory than a floppy?

22 June 2016, 16:55	#27
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	So it seems to work with the rom switched to 2.0. That is good in a way. It explains why it did not work on my non-modded Amiga 500. How do I make it work with my vanilla Amiga 500? :/ Attached Thumbnails

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22 June 2016, 15:06	#22
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	Here is a video of me starting up workbench two times (sorry about my stuffed nose...) https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lyuvs78kg...5_red.m4v?dl=0 You can see that the drive is standby clicking (good). The read/write light goes on and off (good). The drive spins up (good). But it speeds up at the same time as the gotek is working (the green light). So I suspect that the drive is acting a bit like it is DF0...? (Check the video) Never mind the "sewing machine" comparison, but the sound comes from the drive speeding up with no disk in it. All I did was carefully connect the drive to the external port drive, with the power off. It is an Amiga 500 with a gotek drive (as seen in the video). :/

22 June 2016, 15:34	#23
attle Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: RAM: Posts: 83	There are two switches on your Amiga. Are one of those a boot selector switch? Wondering if something's fishy there (shorted?)

22 June 2016, 15:41	#24
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	The red one will make it start in kickstart 2.0, at least it says so on the screen, and the other one will switch on expanded 512k memory. I also have another Amiga 500 with no expansions, but the external drive does work with that one either.

22 June 2016, 15:48	#25
attle Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: RAM: Posts: 83	Have you tried different settings on the "A O B" switch?

22 June 2016, 15:56	#26
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	I did, but only with soft reset. I noticed also that the 0/1 switch does not turn off/on the drive unless you do a hard reset in between. I'll try some more switching, but I no not know what the A O B switch does. Also I am afraid that I will destroy anything if I start fooling around with it. Should I turn off the power for all changes I do?

22 June 2016, 19:27	#28
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Well, that's good news The A O B switch is A for anti virus O for off B for blitz copier Always use the switches or plug the drive in with the Amiga off.

22 June 2016, 19:33	#29
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	Ok, thanks! Is the drive supposed to work with ROM 1.3 (Basic Amiga 500)?

22 June 2016, 19:37	#30
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	I would think so. I can't remember if I ever used it though, (I'm not a fan of 1.3). You need to verify that the external drive port works on the 1.3 Amiga. Did you buy the adapter for the external port?

22 June 2016, 19:39	#31
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	The adapter is on its way, but not here yet.

22 June 2016, 19:42	#32
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	How much memory have you in the 1.3 Amiga?

22 June 2016, 19:46	#33
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	The one I am trying on now has a switch for ROM 1.3/2.0 and a switch for RAM 512k or 1mb (512 expansion) The second Amiga 500 (with red LED btw.) with ROM 1.3 has no extra memory, only 512k.

22 June 2016, 19:49	#34
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Is the Amiga running 1.3/2.0 (drive working with 2.0) using 512 or 1mb of ram?

22 June 2016, 19:52	#35
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	I just tried that: the drive works with 1.3 rom if the expanded ram is there too, 1mb. The drive works with 2.0 rom and/or 1mb it seems.

22 June 2016, 19:56	#36
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	A shot in the dark, but the only thing I can think of is the power supply of the Vanilla A500 may be unable to power the drive properly?

22 June 2016, 20:14	#37
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	I am only testing on the modded Amiga right now, but to my surprise it worked with 1.3/512 when I by accident forgot a floppy in the external drive. I can change floppy a few times but then it starts to make choppy sounds and DF1:BAD shows up. Edit: I have tried 2 different power supplies now also.

23 June 2016, 02:23	#38
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	Another peculiar thing is that trying to load Black Crypt does not work while the external drive is connected. I get the message "this machine does not have enough memory" and then it quits. But without the drive connected Black Crypt loads up fine (with 1mb RAM). This leads me to think that the drive consumes a lot of memory.

23 June 2016, 07:39	#39
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,863	It doesn't consume a lot, but enough that some software will not run.

23 June 2016, 09:53	#40
Vaninna Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 126	do you know If a gotek consumes more memory than a floppy?

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